Compare CSS with other professions??

[ali jaffer]

Aoa,
Dear members how would you compare Css with other professions
Is there any match to CSS ?( regarding prestige, tayka)
Question me asking to keep the motivations ,of the aspirants appearing in 2011 exams, high

[wasfagillani]

Originally Posted by ali jaffer

Aoa,
Dear members how would you compare Css with other professions
Is there any match to CSS ?( regarding prestige, tayka)
Question me asking to keep the motivations ,of the aspirants appearing in 2011 exams, high

css is the highest and toughest exam of the country to induct the most brilliant and analytical minds for policy making.csps are actually the administators of the country,so u cannot compare them with any ordinary person because the power and authority they enjoy no one can enjoy except army or defence forces,but defence forces enjoy only in their specific cantts and css is linked with the public.
as far as the prestige and tayka is concerned they have more tayka than army ones because in army the garde 17 officer a lieut equivalent to our asp or ac do not enjoy power and authority,they have got uniform and job security ,he is under alot of senior oficers of the unit,he has to obey the rules and to say 'yes sir' to every one,but ac or an asp has got vehicles,guards,accomodation right after the induction.
as far as respect is concerned defence forces and civil servants are the MOST respected ones in the country.
no matter any one is director telenor,vice president of standard chartard,general manager uniliver or a top surgeon.they must be earning 6 digit salary but not social security that government officers enjoy,so there is no match to css

[ali jaffer]

maam i totally agree, CSPs ... no parallel at all.

We need these kind of motivational remarks coming in (especially females praising CSPs, kidding).These remarks and such kind of discussion is imperative to keep the aspirants on the track , and keeping their morals escalated. I really appreciate you input wasfa

telenor , mobilink(my x-working place) CEOs are all dwarf stars in front of this Galaxical profession named CSPs. ( no room for cynicals who try to be moderate and in order to keep the espirants off the track (whether a deliberate effort or out of their fear in consideration of the religious teachings of not to say any one inferior) say that no profession is good or bad.my request to those people is... this thread is not for you

CSS is the best and there isn't just any profession under the sun that can be compared with it

[wasfagillani]

well i m not saying this so that they are inferior but want to clear this thing that
either some one is
doctor
engineer
ca
mba[foreign qualified]
bussniss man
forces
they study a very limited cirlce of books and academics
they no doubt go through from a tough period and as u said u r an employ of mobilink the working envirnment and learning is very limited as compared to css
because in css studies one consults more than 100 books and have deep and critical analysis of it.we do not study just to as a typical semester system one has to be dedicated and determined to its own self.some times css studies becomes very frustarting because u word hard for an exam u dont even know either u r going to pass or fail it,but the subjects like current affairs,world politics,general knoledge,histories and world maps are such subject which we hardly bother to look at,but the real life and real reality of the world lies in these areas,after having strong grip on these subjects and these areas one automatically makes up its mind ike an intellect and starts thinking critically about the political system and governemnt system of the country,so that is why i said css is second to none,because it makes our personality more gromed and mature.

[Maha Khan]

Originally Posted by ali jaffer

Aoa,
Dear members how would you compare Css with other professions
Is there any match to CSS ?( regarding prestige, tayka)
Question me asking to keep the motivations ,of the aspirants appearing in 2011 exams, high

Comparison should be made between similar things..CSS-NO COMPARISON-.....Csps not only enjoy pretige,power but also they are most learned persons..you can see many doctors,engineers,IB,IsI officers despite having respectable posts are desirous to join Civil superior Service....
Css aspirant 2011,should keep their spirits high as they have to compete with thousands intelligent Officers..(Dr,Engr,Lec,IB,IsI Officers etc)..
with all success,

[kmrajpar Advocate]

AOA all respected senior members, friends and colleagues.

I have joined this prestigious forum recently and while i was surfing, found nice and interesting TOPICS under discussion.

I also wish to participate with kind permission of the Administrator.

Friends first of all it must be clear before discussing about the topic that, CSS no doubt has prestige, honor, dignity and respect in our society BUT

In fact CSS does not come in the professional category at all.

One can not opt it as professional degree and professional career indeed.

It is the matter of luck and hard rules and tricky game, where on whoever becomes successful and lady luck favors him/her then it becomes RESPONSIBILITY not Profession to serve and work as per directions and causes of the STATE ADMINISTRATORS.

No one can opt it like professional degree of Medical/Engineering/I.T/Management/Business/Legal.

The fate of this exam is decided after many stages and quagmires before the participants, so no one can have any conformity oh success as it is the case always in the other professional degrees.

I would appreciate further discussion and criticism

regards.

[Omer]

CSS is no match to any profession (Engrr. CA, Dr, MBA etc.), no doubt in it.

But it is a reality that civil servants always face financial constraints. Isn't it? This is the only downside in css, as far as i can see and many other aspirants.

Comments welcomed.

[kmrajpar Advocate]

it is the inevitable fact Omer sahib,
I see eye to eye with You as compare to other Professions and jobs.

regards.

[fromQAU]

CSS is a charisma.
it makes u charismatic.

all the doctors, engineers, army captains and lieutenants etc come to appear in css exams.but no csp ever aspired to be a doctor and engineer or captain etc after stepping in to the bureaucracy.this thing explains the comparison.

[striver]

I have had keen interest in the Civil Services of Pakistan from the start and I have also visited many countries of the world.

In Europe, civil services is a very prestigious institute and one of the highly demanded and regarded occupation.

In Britian, the institute of Civil Services is very influencial and respected.

In America, if anyone of you has been a student of constitutional law, he must have heard about the senatorial courtesy whereby high ranking civil officers are posted by president only with the consent of the senator of the relavant state. As a barter to this, President may select any ex-senator for the post of secretary of state without any objection from Senate.

To sum up, Civil Service is an institute which has intentionally being empowered to such a level so as to maintain an effect check and balance system on all the private institutions nomatter how powerful they be. Moreover, Civil Service has an additional responsibility to keep check on other government departments and in some cases even judiciary system cannot intervene. For example, in France if any civil servant (or government officer for that matter) is alleged and accused of any crime they are not tried in the ordinary judicial courts, instead they aer tried in adminitrative courts with the bench consisting of officers from the same department (like our army courts).
This ensures that the courts doesnt fall under the sway of public pressure.