Salam to all members,

I want to ask that why this lovely CSS is considered so much difficult all over the Pakistan ! Yes I admit it is, but what make it so ?

sara ji u have asked a good question and infact hardly anybody wud be to answer ur question in an appropriate way.
but as long as i think that there are twelive subjects in the css. and u have to get mastery over all subjects and another thing is that english composition, essay and EDS are bit difficult and low scoring subjects. moreover, the trend of marking goes on changing. their is no subject in the css which always give same kind of marks. suppose it was considered that sociology gives lot of marks.but this hypothesis proves false in 2008 exams. so it is very defficult to think that which subject gives more marks and which gives less.
therefore, sara jii css needs a lot of hard word and very wide reading. obviouly it takes a lot of time.
so only the few candidates are capable to work hard and get through the css.
hopefully some of my personal views wud be correct.
however, many other can throw light on ur question in a better way.

Well ...I think its a propaganda created to keep people from lower middle class or middle class to keep them away from css and its just the conception .i bleive if you are good at imagination ,nurturing you own beautifull sentnces and if you have some memory then you can easily pass this examination .skill are available in a certain person but skill may be made and what is good place then pakistan . go brother take the chance and win comes to those who dare to chance .

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well i think that the main thing that css is hard is only psychlogical one.... other wisse is not so.... if u r committed then it is easy....

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I think, only specific lobby like democracy has occupied CSS group's jobs since inception of Pakistan.Selection criteria is based on background. I mean mostly candidates are selected from upper class. U ppl may be furious to listen my point of view but fact can't be denied. Its very rare that candidates from middle/lower class is picked. I am taking with reference to the column of Zero Point (Javed Choudary) published in press abt a year ago he narrated the story of affected candidate belonging to peasant/lower class family. Interviewr asked him to tell the detail of menu of five/six star hotel. Is it relanvt question and not a mockery? Can any body belonging to rural area reply this q?? and irrelevant questions like that were asked to candidate. Does it not mean to get him down in the list even that candidate was in top 10. Guys truth is bitter and i have told true story to u ppl. Get birth in officer/burcratice family and get office job easily. Gud Luck

Pardon Dear Wazeer:

100% disagreement on your point of propaganda to keep lower middle class or middle class away from CSS.

You have got absolutely wrong assumption. I have no words to condemn your views. I am sorry for my stance on this issue. And I request you not to mind my comments because I have heard first time in my life that there is a class which tries to keep our low income families away from this competition. Yes you can say elite class has comparatively better opportunities to succeed in this exam because they face no financial constraints, they can join best libraries, they have ability to purchase most expensive books and notes, they have capability to join most expensive and standard academies, they access to best tutors. They have 24 hour information access (net, magzines, and international affiliations with best institutions of the world etc.). And above all they have tension free life during their studies as compared to our poor candidates who remain under continuous pressure for their parents and their livelihood too. I have seen friends who used to offer tutions to meet their study expenses and other necessary expenses. CSP Fida Hussain Shah (CSS First position holder) is one of those candidates who used to offer tutions and met his expenses himself. I remember in 1998-2000 during his CA foundation he was earning about Rs.8,000 from tutions.

Go and survey you will find majority of CSS officers who were either primary teachers or belong to backward rural areas where they had no provision of even basic needs. I can quote lot of names to whom I personally know who are even far away from lower middle class i.e. extreme poor families.

Please don't shift this blame over elite class because I know atleast in Sindh majority of elite class families / business tycoon families prefer fields other than govt. sector they join private sector like chartered accountancy / CMAs/CISA/CIA/CIMA/ACCA/MBA and so on. They are able to earn in 6 or more digits that is why their motivation towards CSS is lower as compared to our rural background holders. Karachi is a live example for us where trend of CSS aspirant was low but that has now got some start in recent years.

As for as CSS exam is concerned ofcourse its competition on national level that demands your skills and competencies. It's not so easy to come and win. It requires your stamina and continuous struggle because it’s competitive exam.


I hope my brother Wazeer won't take this negative.

salam to all of the members of the fourm!
its my first time to post any thing on the forum.i just gone through the posts regarding misperceptins about css.i belong to a family of civil services background,i just want to tell that ur hard work repay u in many ways.its not that the talent doesn't have a worth in pakistan and as far as the manoply of upper class is involved its restricted to only 2-3 % cases every year where the people of civil services try to nfluence the result.as the real influanteal upper class has no intrest to throw there lives in the the brutal arena of civil services.so make up ur minds to get trough the the so called hard css exam.there is nothing great than the willpower,good intention and self confidence in this world.
with regads
Dr.taqi abass kazimi

thanx members,

you ansewered my question and I got it sharp which uptill now was ffaint in my mind that the CSS EXAM is not difficult. It is actually the COMPETETION which is tough. Because u r going to compete the persons who may be more skilled, more talented and more learned for securing a very limited number of posts as compared to the candidates.

thats all
thank u

whenever u try to do something ; u may find it hard; do try anyway.

Many fellows here are in a impreesion that css blongs to a particular strata of population
It is not true . Our elite class was quite fond of the institution of csp before 1973 but they lost their interest after bhutto massacared CSP cadre.
It was true in the fifties when justice munir iterated the importance of accomadating the candidate bloging to humble backgroung and when he found that most of the CSPs belonged to the preveliged class but this is now not the case
Why would the elite send their children to CSA when the particular institution has lost almost all his prestige , its reputation to be the best management institution and to be the obsequious subordinates of ministers
CSp are now not the minisiter cum bureaucrates of pre 1973 era The remenant of CSP , DMG and the decendent of PG < PSP are now not in a postion to even decline to a local tehsil nazim
See the trend in the last decade most of the aspirants belong to middle class or they would the sons and daughters of former or current bureaucrates
I totally agree with Raz in our mahajir community based in sindh urban this is exactly the trend
Peolple downcast CSS here A prime example is Syed ali raza the son of Hashim raza (The first commisioner of karachi) He is now the Governer stsate bank. Never wasted even a scintalla of his time in public sectoe , enjoying his tenure in city bank and then owing to credentials like those of shylock , he is entrusted to run the economics of a third world country like pakistan.
If you roam around the marketing and bussiness managers of top corporations you would find the sons and daughters here.
They are getting fame and a enviable carre being a TV anchor or a fashion designer or a fashion model or becoming a pop icon. You wont find a person of obscure past here.
The special sons and daughters are the future MNAs and MPAs , the coming leadership of improvised country like pakistan .
They are totlaay disintersted to persue a petty civil servise carre

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Thanks a lot for you valued comments.

I wanted to rectify some facts:
Syed ali raza is not the Governor of State Bank of Pakistan rather he is president of National Bank. Whereas Syed Salim Raza brother of Ali Raza took over as Governor, State Bank of Pakistan, on January 02, 2009. He succeeds Dr. Shamshad Akhtar who completed her three-year tenure as SBP Governor on January 01, 2009.

Prior to his assumption of the office of SBP Governor, Mr. Salim Raza was the Chief Executive Officer of Pakistan Business Council (PBC) since February 2006. And was related to Citibank.