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nadem Wednesday, December 14, 2011 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=suman;385723][B]@ Nadem[/B]

First of all thanks alot sir you are doing a commendable job.Sir i want to know what are the prospects of PSP for girls.is it suitable for girls? i have seen that many CSPs don't recommend PSP for girls.But again i have been advised by one of my relative who is in PSP to place it on 2nd or 3rd number in preference list.According to him PSP is good for girls also.I am too bit interested in it but yet confused.What is your opinion about it being in PSP yourself.

Regards.[/QUOTE]
If you yourself have great inclination towards PSP only then put it in your options otherwise dont even think of this cramp idea...just tell how will you deal with an SHO n then decide about it

nadem Wednesday, December 14, 2011 08:41 PM

[QUOTE=Razzi;385728]@Nadem Sir

I have few quarries regarding a PMS Officer serving as SJM under High Court.

1- Is such officer entitled to "Judicial Allowance". If yes then what is the amount?

2-What kind of cases fall under the jurisdiction of such officer?

3-Whom does (s)he reports to? Senior Civil Judge or Session Judge?

4- Can such officer be repatriated by the provincial Govt with out consent of LHC?[/QUOTE]
This isnt my area but SJM are appointed by Judicial section of the Provincial Home Deptt NOT the HC...they are repoartable to Distt & Session Judge in most of the cases but it varies from case to case...No judicial allowance is given...they deal cases likes price,Railway ,LDA,WAPDA or any other matter which Provincial Govt feel necessart for SJM to look after...Since they are appointed by provincial Govts therefore their powers can be taken back whenever provincial govt feels necessary...HC nothing to do with that

Razzi Wednesday, December 14, 2011 08:51 PM

• Chairman Consultative Committee on Economic Policy
• Ambassador-at-Large
• Chairman Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan
• The Auditor General of Pakistan
• Governor State Bank of Pakistan
• Secretaries General to the Federal Government
• Chairman Federal Public Service Commission
• Chief Election Commissioner
• Wafaqi Mohtasib
• Chairman of the Council of Islamic Ideology
• Deputy Chairman Planning Commission


These belongs to which group of CSS? if not then plz sir elaborate every post. and its background.

A top Civil Servant can become among these posts. e.g One can become Chairman FPSC?

ZAKARIYAN01 Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:39 PM

sir thanks a lot lot for giving your precious time and for guiding all the aspirants.

sir it's my biggest wish of life join the PSP as ASP,,,,,,, i have some queries regarding PSP

why the seats in PSP are very limited??? means every year in css exam there are normally just 6 to 8 seats for punjab but in case of DMG the number of seats from punjab are normally from 20 to 25.

secondly if in your opinion DMG is better service than PSP then why the merit for PSP is at the top????

Razzi Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=ZAKARIYAN01;385870]

secondly if in your opinion DMG is better service than PSP then why the merit for PSP is at the top????[/QUOTE]

yahi cheez mujhy b samjh nhi a rahi ?????k which is the BEST BEST Group between these two groups? :cry
i think Uniform Power is better than Civil power?
Sir Every one knows about IG punjab's post but only eduated people know about Chief Secretary's post.
i think psp is more renowned group than dmg in society. plz sir elaborate

nadem Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:09 PM

@ Razzi
 
-Mostly DMG but can be anyone appointed by the PM
-Can be anyone
-DMG
-PAAS
-Ishrat Hussain was the last Governor from DMG, now a days it has been from pvt sector but DMG can be posted as Governor state bank
-Secretaries General to Federal Govt is new term which I have heard today...if u mean Secretaries to Federal Govt then currently out 47 Federal Secretaries 36 are from DMG
-Can be anyone..an ex Bureaucrat mostly from DMG,an Ex-Judge or an ex-army General
-DMG
-DMG
-Political appointee
-DMG or anyone appointed by the PM

No doubt DMG is the better of the two...plz see allocations of last 3,4 years i think DMG if not better then its neck to neck...most of pple go for Police in its face value...the real structure of service becomes clear after having 5,6 years service...You said only educated people knw about CS...so u wanna b terrify the illiyerates? There is no unchecked power which Police enjoys...everything you guys have in mind is facination...most of people go for Police coz they dun hav anyone to guide them and they just jump in for uniform...remember my words...things are not that what they look on thr face...after 5 yeqrs sb shoq uttar jae ga wardi ka

nadem Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:18 PM

[QUOTE=ZAKARIYAN01;385870]sir thanks a lot lot for giving your precious time and for guiding all the aspirants.

sir it's my biggest wish of life join the PSP as ASP,,,,,,, i have some queries regarding PSP

why the seats in PSP are very limited??? means every year in css exam there are normally just 6 to 8 seats for punjab but in case of DMG the number of seats from punjab are normally from 20 to 25.

secondly if in your opinion DMG is better service than PSP then why the merit for PSP is at the top????[/QUOTE]
Firstly the seats for DMG are between 15 to 20 for Punjab NOT 20 to 25...Moreover I have already explained that why there are 7 seats for punjab for PSP...go through my previous posts on this thread...to summarize...DMG has almost 50 BPS-22 seats whereas PSP has hardly 10 BPS-22 seqts so retruitment is done by keeping the requirement of officers in future...as a matter of fct even then DMG has the fastest rate of promotion...PSP almost 3rd in that list after PAAS

ZAKARIYAN01 Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:26 PM

sir if a middle class candidate qualified css and get allocation in PSP or DMG but he has no references he has not any family background that can support him in getting good postings then is it possible that he can get promotions????? is it possible that he can get good postings like DPO, RPO or DCO, Commissioner etc,,,,,is it possible that man can reach to BPS 21 or 22?????

Gulrukh Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:27 PM

@ nadem bro
 
[QUOTE=nadem;385841]If you yourself have great inclination towards PSP only then put it in your options otherwise dont even think of this cramp idea...just tell how will you deal with an SHO n then decide about it[/QUOTE]

Ok PSP has some defects for girls..unruly SHO..thana system...hardened criminals.. but what about Customs..I'm a girl n have recently qualified CE 011 written...plz bhai tell me Is customs group ok/right/suitable/perfect for girlzz ? or like police its also not SUITABLE FOR GIRLZ...

MohdUmarKhan Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:32 PM

Sir Nadem, I appreciate your efforts however I would like to draw your attention to few things which you may yourself be very well aware of.

1 - It's the 3rd world countries (Pakistan being one) where police enjoys power where a constable will ridicule a PhD (or as you put it). In developed countries, Police has NO respect whatsoever. The "Respect" word used in my statement here does not means "RESPECT" in its literal sense but you know what It meant, I am sure :)

2 - People in Pakistan does NOT respect police, they fear them.

3 - With time when Pakistan will be more developed and more people will be educated and more people will be well versed with the law, no one will Fear Police.

4 - Police too like other CSP's are CSPs and CSP means civil SERVANT of pakistan, they are mere servants and should act like them.

5 - Some people don't join PSP just because of the power (or as you say, the power that is ASSUMED to be given to a PSP) but they join it to serve the country and to experience what it takes to fight crime and criminals in an environment of "PRESSURES" as you explained.

I too am a css aspirant and aspiring for PSP, I'll have only 1 choice when I'll appear in examination and that will be PSP Alone. Yes, I want to join it for power.. Power that is LEGAL and is my right to have and to use against the oppressors and to help the oppressed.


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