Same old things going on in Pakistan.What is this Army to disagree with the President,I mean in 'sarkari mulazimon' ko ye haq kis ne dia he k wo Government ki wishes k mutabiq na chale...They should adhere to what the government wants it to do..Allah ne fojiyon ko ittne dmagh nahy diye k wo kuch soch skein,ye une samjh q nahy ati!!O bhai india se nahy jeet sakte atleast appne mulk me tw aman qaim kurne me madad do.Ya tumhe sirf DHA me bethne n golf khailne k liye paida kia gya he..hadh he yar..hur institution manmaaniyan kr rha hey.

@hamza
dear i said same thing that there no writ of govt and army is only the part. and you are thinking about the supermacy upon army, if that will be possible in pakistan then this situation will never occur

TV channels are reporting that MQM has presented their demands regarding the Local Government & Commissionerate System.

1. They want drastic changes in Commissionerate System till coming elections and its complete abolishment after Next election.

2. Local body election before Senate Elections in March

3. A number of new positions at Tehsil and District level are suggested directly reporting to Nazims.This has done to clip the powers of District Management bureaucrats and giving those powers to Nazims.

It was expected from MQM, tendency in Killings has increased in Karachi and President saab has constituted a committee headed by Mr. Khursheed Shah (Religious Minister) to resolve issues with MQM.

I live in Karachi where MQM workers and ex. UC Nazims are clearly saying that these killings will not be stopped until restoration of Local body system with full powers.

Now the ball is in Mr. Zardari’s court, accept the demand and restore peace but if he thinks that these demands are useless and MQM is a terrorist party than forget about Reconciliation and next election alliances and launch a full fledged operations to marginalize these terrorist elements. Zardari saab has to rise above the selfish party motives and think about poor people being killed after every minute.

I live in Karachi and whenever I am on road there is an unknown fear of any mishap happening any time.

@ Babakhan

Brother, tell me one-thing. If such is the reputation of MQM (both inside and outside Karachi) and people like you (i-e the ones living in Karachi) know about their complicity, then how come they grab seats in both provincial and national assembly from 1980's till now?? How can they so persistently get seats in the assembly if they were only terrorist party.. (not to mention their public representatives like Mustafa Kamal, Faisal Sabzwari and others who are quite reasonable)... Are Karachiites taken hostage by the MQM? Or do they have a support base as well (probably in Urdu speaking community)???

And tell me that actually who is getting killed? Everyday one hears that 10 people dead, 25 people dead.... But who are these people?? Political workers? or ordinary people??

MQM wins election through sheer force and employ all those tactics which can easily terrorize a normal person to cast his/her vote in the favor of MQM. In last election they asked majority of people to have the picture of the vote saved in mobile. Leaders of MQM are either carry a criminal background or terrorized by Altaf bhai to an extent that they can’t even take his name without adjoining ‘Bhai’ to it.

According to my perception, this is the ripe time to crush MQM, if not, than forget about setting aside the demands of MQM. If PPP being a party of Sindh could not manage to side line the MQM than expecting others to do it will just be like living in fools heaven.

Ager PPP ne ab MQM se reconciliation ke to woh ab her demand puri kerwa ker rahenge aur commissionerate system to kiya un kee her wish puri hojaye gi future mein. Kiyunke ab unhun ne dara ker, kill ker ke apna matlab nikalna seekh liya hai. Koi bhi party in ko future mein oppose nahi ker payegi.MQM Ke pas demand kee aik lambi list hai jo na puri hui to killing khatam nahi hogi.

Agley kuch weeks MQM aur in kee Sindh mein existance or power politics ka future determine ker denge. Ager operation nahi hua to MQM phir future mein yeh seekh gayee hai ke logon ko maro aur apni demand puri ker wao

I totally agree with you in this respect..The only solution is a crushing military operation in Karachi..Writ of the state ittne khatre me Baluchistan me nahy he jitna ussey Karachi me khatra hey..

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IS moderatoR of CSS forum sleePING?

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MQM is now fully exposed.no longer it can befool people of sindh and pakistan.if we accept for a moment that jinnahpur conspiracy was not hatched by MQM then what will we call which MQM is doing right now with the full support and cooperation from media especially Geo.MQM and Geo are the real enemies of Pakistan.we need to stand against these enemies.Altaf Hussain once said in India that creation of Pakistan was a blunder and now he is bend on dividing pakistan.

they no longer are calling themselves sons of Sindh that is why they remain silent over the propaganda of Geo for creation of muhajjir province.nothing can happen of those people who say MQM wins elections by fair means becuse they will continue to say so no matter how many proves they are given.MQM will continue to blackmail PPP untill PPP does not take a firm action against it like army operation.its time to do or die.its question of the stability of Pakistan.WAKE UP PPP.

@ syed kausar ali shah
what made you to make an appeal to mods.are we saying anything wrong?? remember we are not talking about any ethinic community that you are feeling bad over it but we are talking about a political party which is our right.but agar aap MQM ke hamdard ho tu zaroor aap ko bura lage ga but we can't help to stop calling a spade a spade.

Is main moderator ka role kahan se aa gya??This is a very peaceful and useful thread I guess.

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I dont understand one thing. If such is the reputation and reality of a party, then why people like Khushbakht Shujaat are joining it? Why journalists like Hasan Nisar support MQM? Why in talk shows, suit-tie anchors call them liberal secular broad minded bla bla?? And why they have educated lot like Mustafa Kamal, Haider Abbas Rizvi etc?

I mean, it seems as if Karachiites are totally taken hostage by them. And this is exactly the reason that sometimes, I pray that they should be constricted to Karachi otherwise this Bhatta and Gun-culture will spread in the whole country..


P.S: How come they won a seat in Gilgit-Baltistan then??