Talibanisation!!!

[leopard]

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[niazikhan2]

well,article is rich in its beauty and material wise its slight weak while commenting on taliban and al-qaeda ,shows your unawareness about taliban and especially al-qaeda....i feel you dnt realised their goals becoz if poverty only can eliminate extremist, in your view,then usama and its family are billionaire....then why he is serving CIA as a mercenary(in your view al-qaeda is created by CIA )....??? :......if only education can uproot it,then why siddiq khan blow himself in London.......???

[Lord AvaLon]

Thank you so much for sharing such an important topic with us.
It definitely helped me clearing my ideas.

Originally Posted by niazikhan2

if poverty only can eliminate extremist, in your view,then usama and its family are billionaire....then why he is serving CIA as a mercenary(in your view al-qaeda is created by CIA )....??? :......if only education can uproot it,then why siddiq khan blow himself in London.......???

In a statement by Retd. General & ISI Director Javed Nasir
Usama Bin Ladin "used to be" the blue eyed boy of CIA till he started opposing the presence of US military forces in Saudi Arabia and his family is certainly not engaged in terrorist activities.
leopard provided a general analysis on talibans and the methodology which can be helpful for elimination of extremism, we are talking in General about talibans. The case of Saddique khan who blew himself in London was rare, the suicide bombers in general are the illiterate masses who are motivated by showing a directed passage to paradise.

[niazikhan2]

always realise the ground realities.....look at the dr.amin zawahiri,dr.arshad waheed,dr.afia sidiqui,,,,and many more computer and softare engineer suppoting the militant..........now about usama ,taliban,and about their groups ,plz follow the link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6dM3Fcpd4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceSbI...eature=related

[leopard]

@ brother Niazi Khan
Thanks for your critical commentary upon my article... as far as your objections are concerned, i will advise you to read the article again & focus on "reading between the lines." while keeping in view the policies of our country where one can not openly criticize the "Holy Cows."

Al-qaeda was the direct fall out of 1979 Afghanistan war... I have tried to quote the authentic sources... For example to augment my point about the creation of Al-qaeda, just read the source that i 've quoted (Mr. Musharraf's book) & if you are interested in a visceral postmortem then read the entire chapter....

I have tried to explain the creation of Alqaeda & in this regard I have quoted an authentic report "How the cIA created Usama Bin Laden?" This is a report published by CIA fact book & widely commented upon by BBC... Just go through the following address to read more about it....(source BBC Urdu’s Service http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8046577.stm)

Regarding the individual cases that you have cited to support you objection, my opinion is second to Mr. Lord Avlon because as a general rule "No law is perfect... Exceptions are always there"

Taliban (or Tehrik=e=Taliban) are the umbrella group of alqaeda... In this regard i will only advise you to study the profile of Taliban leaders... if there is any thing common between them all it is that all of them had participated in Afghan Jihad along with the other fighter... so they share the same psychological & social nexus of the Alqaeda...

Last but not the least, this is an ongoing conflict therefore nothing is ultimate & final... the commentary will keep on changing until the dynamics will keep on changing....


@ Lord Avlon

thanks brother for offering your mature commentary upon my article.... thank you..

[niazikhan2]

thanks for reply mr.leopard....but my view is that it is idealogical movement...but as other movements are concerned ,i dnt know....but al-qaeda...........some days ago,saleem safi(a popular anchor,columnist,and pukhton who himself authority on these issues),hamid mir,rahimullah yousaf zai, commented on AL-Qaeda as same as me.....as for as your article is concerned ,it is marvellous......thanks for posting it..it is valuable......i hope you will paste such type of post in future.......! ! ! ! ! !

God bless you..... ! ! ! !

[Mao Zedong]

Originally Posted by leopard

@ brother Niazi Khan
Thanks for your critical commentary upon my article... as far as your objections are concerned, i will advise you to read the article again & focus on "reading between the lines." while keeping in view the policies of our country where one can not openly criticize the "Holy Cows."

Al-qaeda was the direct fall out of 1979 Afghanistan war... I have tried to quote the authentic sources... For example to augment my point about the creation of Al-qaeda, just read the source that i 've quoted (Mr. Musharraf's book) & if you are interested in a visceral postmortem then read the entire chapter....

I have tried to explain the creation of Alqaeda & in this regard I have quoted an authentic report "How the cIA created Usama Bin Laden?" This is a report published by CIA fact book & widely commented upon by BBC... Just go through the following address to read more about it....(source BBC Urdu’s Service http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8046577.stm)

Regarding the individual cases that you have cited to support you objection, my opinion is second to Mr. Lord Avlon because as a general rule "No law is perfect... Exceptions are always there"

Taliban (or Tehrik=e=Taliban) are the umbrella group of alqaeda... In this regard i will only advise you to study the profile of Taliban leaders... if there is any thing common between them all it is that all of them had participated in Afghan Jihad along with the other fighter... so they share the same psychological & social nexus of the Alqaeda...

Last but not the least, this is an ongoing conflict therefore nothing is ultimate & final... the commentary will keep on changing until the dynamics will keep on changing....


@ Lord Avlon

thanks brother for offering your mature commentary upon my article.... thank you..

Here you describe the Taliban (Afghani) and Tehrik-e-Taliban (Pakistani) into the same category. In fact, Afghani Taliban several times disowned Tehrik-e-Taliban (Pakistan), as you could find so many statements of Mullah Omer against them because they are targeting Muslims at mosques and other public places in Pakistan. The Taliban Movement after 1995 in Afghanistan was labeled as the uprising of Islam by even some moderate scholars because they never targeted their Muslim fellows in their country (except their views about the women education and their actions against other religions). To sum up, Pakistani Taliban (belongs to Mehsud tribe) are the agents of external enemies of Pakistan including India, as according to the intelligence reports, most of the members of this group are recruited on monthly salaries/payments or they are doing some kind of job to earn money; therefore, their activities could not be associated with Jihad or Islam whatsoever.