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zuhaib ahmed Thursday, December 27, 2012 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Muhammad T S Awan;532976]Unfortunately, undersigned is neither a teacher of English nor a master in the language :dry: (A good teacher of this thread may be well aware of mistakes :evil). Nevertheless, some points have been made bold for information e.g. English is the official language of our country (not nation). It is the official language, not an official language.... Grammar anyhow... ironical ( you use this word very often :nono) ... etc etc :)

B.t.w Do not take it as offense ;)[/QUOTE]

Ahan, I do not take it as offense. Yes, It was better to use country but I considered Pakistan a single nation.
Did I not use [B]IRONICAL[/B] correctly?
What is mistake in [B]Grammar Anyhow?[/B] I don't get it.
[B]Indeed, I have never thought about it. I don't need to do so[/B]. (Is there any mistake) :cr

[B]since its childhood[/B]. Sir, Childhood k sath Since lagta hai, Child ka koe gender nhn hota is lye hum ITS istamal kerty hain.

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Adverb has many kinds.[/COLOR] It is not wrong, dear.

[B]It is our fault. We better establish ourselves first then we can do something better.
It is a good topic to be discussed. I leave this topic for government to think about.
[/B] I can only understand it comprehensively when you correct it.

[B]Not always and not necessary. If these are done; grammar rules, are these.[/B] Yes, It is flowery language, used in novels. :)

[B]Please, correct these. I do not take it as offense. If only you understand. :)[/B]

butterflly Thursday, December 27, 2012 06:37 PM

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ultimate Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=zuhaib ahmed;532895][B]I have highlighted some mistakes. Work on your grammar and sentence structuring.[/B][/QUOTE]
your reply is not satisfactory. i want to know the reason behind these rules. i am not interested in its use.

any how thanks for your reply.

thanks for pointing out mistakes. i am working on it......:)

Muhammad T S Awan Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=zuhaib ahmed;533176]Ahan, I do not take it as offense. Yes, It was better to use country but I considered Pakistan a single nation.
Did I not use [B]IRONICAL[/B] correctly?
What is mistake in [B]Grammar Anyhow?[/B] I don't get it.
[B]Indeed, I have never thought about it. I don't need to do so[/B]. (Is there any mistake) :cr

[B]since its childhood[/B]. Sir, Childhood k sath Since lagta hai, Child ka koe gender nhn hota is lye hum ITS istamal kerty hain.

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Adverb has many kinds.[/COLOR] It is not wrong, dear.

[B]It is our fault. We better establish ourselves first then we can do something better.
It is a good topic to be discussed. I leave this topic for government to think about.
[/B] I can only understand it comprehensively when you correct it.

[B]Not always and not necessary. If these are done; grammar rules, are these.[/B] Yes, It is flowery language, used in novels. :)

[B]Please, correct these. I do not take it as offense. If only you understand. :)[/B][/QUOTE]

When one is talking about grammar/sentence strucuting thn it is better to avoid novel language and ones own thinking. Using words 'Nation' and 'ironical' are not required there. Your thinking of Pakistan nation does not mean that you will start using word nation for the place of country. Nation is an abstract thing, while country is a physical/tangible entity. Further, you had written yourself, 'Child learns what he is taught since its childhood.' If you are using 'he' at start of sentence thn should had to end it with 'his' instead of 'its', if one do not want to be concerned with the gender thn better to not use it at the beggining of sentence.

As far as these lines is concerned, 'It is our fault. We better establish ourselves first then we can do something better. It is a good topic to be discussed. I leave this topic for government to think about.' Firstly, it is not our (people of the country) fault that we are having English as official language or else. English is the only official language of Pakistan. 'English is an official language' mean we are having some other official languages as well. Secondly, position of words/parts of speech and correct use of sentences does not make a paragraph worth reading, there should be some expression in it. Words/paragraph speaks of the mind of person, therefore, one should try to develop some good expression. Thirdly, try to avoid using such words in English paper or even in any paper of CSS. Aspirants taking paper are nobody to leave such a topic for consideration by the government.

After going through some posts (as words often speak of the mind of person), I had got a feeling that you will not only mind it but also will feel it as offense, therefore, had categorically stated that no offense please.

And also please avoid using so much big/bold and colourful fonts writting in posts, it becomes difficuilt to read.

Stay blessed. (Kindly avoid beating about the bush, i may not be able to respond you back). Regards

zuhaib ahmed Friday, December 28, 2012 12:16 AM

[QUOTE=Muhammad T S Awan;533370]When one is talking about grammar/sentence strucuting thn it is better to avoid novel language and ones own thinking. Using words 'Nation' and 'ironical' are not required there. Your thinking of Pakistan nation does not mean that you will start using word nation for the place of country. Nation is an abstract thing, while country is a physical/tangible entity. Further, you had written yourself, 'Child learns what he is taught since its childhood.' If you are using 'he' at start of sentence thn should had to end it with 'his' instead of 'its', if one do not want to be concerned with the gender thn better to not use it at the beggining of sentence.

As far as these lines is concerned, 'It is our fault. We better establish ourselves first then we can do something better. It is a good topic to be discussed. I leave this topic for government to think about.' Firstly, it is not our (people of the country) fault that we are having English as official language or else. English is the only official language of Pakistan. 'English is an official language' mean we are having some other official languages as well. Secondly, position of words/parts of speech and correct use of sentences does not make a paragraph worth reading, there should be some expression in it. Words/paragraph speaks of the mind of person, therefore, one should try to develop some good expression. Thirdly, try to avoid using such words in English paper or even in any paper of CSS. Aspirants taking paper are nobody to leave such a topic for consideration by the government.

After going through some posts (as words often speak of the mind of person), I had got a feeling that you will not only mind it but also will feel it as offense, therefore, had categorically stated that no offense please.

And also please avoid using so much big/bold and colourful fonts writting in posts, it becomes difficuilt to read.

Stay blessed. (Kindly avoid beating about the bush, i may not be able to respond you back). Regards[/QUOTE]

You have explained it well. I got it. I will take care in future. Thanks :)

zuhaib ahmed Friday, December 28, 2012 01:01 AM

[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="5"][CENTER][SIZE="3"]We never know the worth of water till the well is dry
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[B]
One never realizes and feels important of worthy thing until it is lost. Life and world are changeable, they snatch things and make us aware about them. Flowers know value of spring in autumn, fish know value of water in dried land and men know importance of life in hospital ward. Freedom, time and beloved ones are invaluable but one ignores and makes them valueless and comes from dormant when these are flown.

A nation where freedom is not realized well, taken lightly and not protected, soon that nation is conquered by external force. Then, very nation knows its importance, craves and yearns for freedom. People of that nation shed blood tears when they lose their beloveds in slavery life. They become slaves of unknown kings who keep hunter in their hands for helpless and slaves. Then, people know importance of Independence. As Boris Yeltsin says, "We don't appreciate what we have until it's gone."

Time is very precious but its preciousness is ever avoided. Many people take time lightly and regret in old age saying with sighs "if" and "would that". Time's worth is known when it is run out of hands. Time is the fastest thing, he who wastes it, gets nothing but repentance in end. As Benjamin Franklin says; "One today is worth than two tomorrows". Those nations or people who do not give value to time they feel its importance in destructions and crises.

Current critical circumstances of Pakistan are because of negligence of time. People avoided it, and ignored its very importance. They did not justify themselves, and couldn't go parallel with time and time left them back. Now, time has left Pakistanis in sufferings which are insufferable. People of Pakistan should know worth of time and other essential things of life; otherwise they will have only repentance in the end.
[/B]
[B]Seniors, Please check it.[/B]

Bilal Hassan Friday, December 28, 2012 01:16 AM

[QUOTE=Muhammad T S Awan;533370]When one is talking about grammar/sentence strucuting thn it is better to avoid novel language and ones own thinking. Using words 'Nation' and 'ironical' are not required there. Your thinking of Pakistan nation does not mean that you will start using word nation for the place of country. Nation is an abstract thing, while country is a physical/tangible entity. Further, you had written yourself, 'Child learns what he is taught since its childhood.' If you are using 'he' at start of sentence thn should had to end it with 'his' instead of 'its', if one [COLOR="Darkred"][B]do[/B][/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"][B](does...subject is singular so it will take does not do)[/B][/COLOR] not want to be concerned with the gender thn better [COLOR="DarkRed"][B]to[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"][B](better is seldom followed by a preposition)[/B][/COLOR] not use it at the beggining of sentence.

As far as these lines [COLOR="DarkRed"][B]is[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"][B](are.....lines is plural so will be followed by are not is)[/B][/COLOR] concerned, 'It is our fault. We better establish ourselves first then we can do something better. It is a good topic to be discussed. I leave this topic for government to think about.' Firstly, it is not our (people of the country) fault that we are having English as official language or else. English is the only official language of Pakistan. 'English is an official language' [COLOR="DarkRed"][B]mean[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"][B](means.....that clause is singular)[/B][/COLOR] we are having some other official languages as well. Secondly, position of words/parts of speech and correct use of sentences does not make a paragraph worth reading, there should be some expression in it. Words/paragraph speaks of the mind of person, therefore, one should try to develop some good expression. Thirdly, try to avoid using such words in English paper or even in any paper of CSS. Aspirants taking paper are nobody to leave such a topic for consideration by the government.

After going through some posts (as words often speak of the mind of person), I had got a feeling that you will not only mind it but also will feel it as offense, therefore, had categorically stated that no offense please.

And also please avoid using so much big/bold and colourful fonts writting in posts, it becomes difficuilt to read.

Stay blessed. (Kindly avoid beating about the bush, i may not be able to respond you back). Regards[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="Blue"][B]
well i have very respectfully highlighted some mistakes in your expression.
I do agree with you that Zuhaib has not used these words such as Nation, ironical etc in their lexical meaning but other mistakes you have pointed out, i am sorry to say, are not really mistakes. As far as i know, rest was fine or you prove me wrong by corroborating your accusations.

[B]P.S[/B]...I really have lot of gratitude for you sir...

@Zuhaib
brother he is just trying to help you, i also want to say that you become aggressive sometimes, you know diagnosis is the first step to cure, they identify your mistakes so that you may improve.[/B][/COLOR]

Muhammad T S Awan Friday, December 28, 2012 01:33 AM

[QUOTE=Bilal Hassan;533408][COLOR="Blue"][B]
well i have very respectfully highlighted some mistakes in your expression.
I do agree with you that Zuhaib has not used these words such as Nation, ironical etc in their lexical meaning but other mistakes you have pointed out, i am sorry to say, are not really mistakes. As far as i know, rest was fine or you prove me wrong by corroborating your accusations.
[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

AoA

Dear you have just wasted your time for these corrections of i's and t's :snor. I had previously stated that am neither a teacher of English nor a master in the language that is the reason that had not tried to post anything in this Section :glare:. Nevertheless, the purpose was to tell him to be careful in using proper expression and for tonning him down to be gentle while dealing with others :happy:

(B.t.w; there was no accusation :) ... Further, it will be better if font in bold/such highlighting colours are not used in posts. It often become difficuilt to read the posts.)

Regards

zuhaib ahmed Friday, December 28, 2012 05:55 PM

We never know the worth of water till the well is dry




One never realizes and feels importance of valuable things until these are lost. Life and world are changeable, they snatch things and make us aware about them. Flowers know value of spring in autumn, fish know value of water in dried land and men know importance of life in hospital ward. Freedom, time and dears are invaluable but one ignores and makes them valueless and comes out from dormant condition when these are flown.

A nation where freedom is not realized well is taken lightly and not protected, soon that nation is conquered by external force. That very nation knows its importance, craves and yearns for freedom. People of that nation shed blood tears when they lose their beloveds in slavery life. They become slaves of unknown kings who keep whips in their hands for helpless and slaves. Then, people know importance of Independence. As Boris Yeltsin says, "We don't appreciate what we have until it's gone."

Time is very precious but its preciousness is ever avoided. Many people take time lightly and regret in old age saying with sighs "if" and "would that". Time's worth is known when it is run out of hands. Time is the fastest thing, he who wastes it, gets nothing but repentance in end. As Benjamin Franklin says; "One today is worth than two tomorrows". Those nations or people who do not give value to time they feel its importance in destructions and crises.

Current critical circumstances of Pakistan are because of negligence of time. People avoided it, and ignored its very importance. They did not justify themselves, and couldn't go parallel with time and time left them back. Now, time has left Pakistanis in sufferings which are insufferable. People of Pakistan should know worth of time and other essential things of life; otherwise they will have only repentance in the end.

[B]Seniors, Please check it. Bilal, I have corrected sorted out mistakes. Please check further. [/B]

ProgressiveError Friday, December 28, 2012 06:18 PM

[CENTER][B]Ignorance is bliss, knowledge worry[/B][/CENTER]

Knowledge is appreciated everywhere regardless of people, place, culture or tradition. Even in the court of Changaiz Khan and Halaku khan, knowledge was respected. Contrary, Ignorance is always discouraged everywhere. People do not like to tell others that they are unaware of any particular thing. However, there are the times when knowledge becomes a problem as staying in touch with the information may result in panic. The current situation of restlessness in Karachi is a truly represents “knowledge is worry”. The more you are aware of current political and social situation of different cities in Pakistan the most depressed person you are. However, if you do not tune into any TV channel, do not read newspaper and pay heed to such news on social media; you may feel yourself in the bliss. But indeed, this bliss is the bliss of ignorance and you may be living in a fool’s paradise.

Therefore, even if the knowledge may panic you, it may depress you but this is what the truth is. This is how things are in real. On the other hand, even if the ignorance or unawareness may appear to you as heaven or bliss but it is not a reality, this is not how things are in real. You may escape for a while from truth but what you have to accept at the end is nothing else but truth or knowledge. Hence, search for the knowledge as ultimately you have to reach to knowledge; no matter what course you choose to get it.

[B]seniors please check it ....[/B]


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