Grammar Class

[Shaa-Baaz]

This is what i have learned from my experiences. In my college students are not capable enough to digest all these, so i decided to share it with the intelligentsia.
One more thing in English except from blunders there is nothing strictly wrong, all depends in which context is said or written . when i will use the word wrong it means it is not appropriate


COMMON LEARNER ERROR


elder/eldest or older/oldest


Elder and eldest are only used before nouns, usually when comparing members of a family.

My elder sister is a teacher.

The comparative and superlative forms of the adjective old are older and oldest.

My sister is three years older than me.

NOTE :

You cannot use the word "than' With elder.

My sister is three years elder than me. (This is wrong)


Moreover the word 'elder is being increasingly used, as a more respectful way of referring to older people:

elder care, elder abuse

[Shaa-Baaz]

make


Remember that if you use make with the meaning 'cause something' or 'force someone to do something' then you need to use the pattern:

'make + object + infinitive without 'to''. (infinitive without 'to'' is called 'bare infinitive)

They made him clean the house.

They made him to clean the house.(wrong)

NOTE

The exception to this rule is when make is in the passive, when you must use 'to' with the infinitive.

The prisoners were made to clean out their cells.

[Ayesha Mahmood]

Aoa.

I have read that after 'than' , i, he, you is used. Please make it clear somewhere I have also read me, him as well.

So tell me the rule by which

He is older than I. (wrong)
He is older than me. (right)

waiting for your reply.

Regards,

[Shaa-Baaz]

@ Ayesha Mahmood

You can use Than' with older but you cant with " Elder .
Its simple.
Use of "Than" with older , no problem

[Shaa-Baaz]

Simple Past / Past Perfect

Change the past perfect sentence into simple past if time is given in the sentence.

I have passed the examination last year. (Wrong)

I passed the examination last year.

[Shaa-Baaz]

say / tell


Say can refer to any type of speech.


"Good night, " she said.

She said she was unhappy.

Ali said to meet him here.

Say is never followed directly by a person as an object: you must use 'say something to someone' for this.

She said goodbye to me at the station.

She said me goodbye at the station.(Wrong)


Tell is used to report that someone has given information or an order. The verb tell is always followed by the person that the information or order is given to.

Sana told them all to stay inside the house.

Oscar told the boys a wonderful story about a giant.

Oscar told to the boys a wonderful story about a giant.(Wrong)

[Ayesha Mahmood]

Originally Posted by Shaa-Baaz

@ Ayesha Mahmood

You can use Than' with older but you cant with " Elder .
Its simple.
Use of "Than" with older , no problem

I think u could not understand my question. My question is about the use of me or I after older than.
I thought older than me was right but then I read older than I in grammar.

[Shaa-Baaz]

@ Ayesha Mahmood

Ok.....

Now imagine you are knocking at the door. some one asks from inside

Who is there ?

What will you say ?

It's I Or It's me

Yes usually people say it's me but that is wrong.

Correct one is It's I.

Why is it so /

We have The Case In Nouns


Subjective ------ Possessive ------------ Objective/Accusative

I --------- --------- My -------------------------- Me



We know that the persons performs an action is called subject .
Now who is knowking at the door, is "subject
hence subjective case is "I " not "Me "



Coming to your inquiry.......

1-He is older than I.
2-He is older than me.


First sentence is more appropriate to me because of two reasons

One, He' is subjective case so that 'I' .Same case must be compared in a sentence
Secondly. subjective case is required by the 'Conjunction "than"

Second sentence is only appropriate in case, if we take 'than as preposition which is now happening.

He is older than me .............it is no more strange expression , natives are speaking and writing it frequently



Now
He is older than I
He is older than I am

Ye aik aur lambi behas he pir kisi time

[jadoon khan]

salam sir
Plz carry on ur lectures,coz it was healthy activity for all members and all of them were getting broaden their mental horizon.Infact it was wise and bold step taken by u to reach out stds.
waslam
regards

[Shaa-Baaz]

Ok.............

Know/ Find out


If you know something, you already have the information.(this is important you already have the information.)

1-Ali knows what time the train leaves/

2-Her parents already know about the problem.


If you find something out, you learn new information for the first time.

I will ring the station to find out what time the train leaves.

i will ring the station to know what time the train leaves. (wrong)