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1) Please tell me where is your brother?
Please tell me where your brother is?
Tell me where is your brother, please?

2) Sajjad as well as Saleem were late.

Sajjad as well as Saleem was late.
Both Sajjad and Saleem were late.

3) He is the most cleverest boy in the class.
He is the cleverest boy in the class.

4) I have met him last month.
I met him last month.

5) Your writing is inferior than him.
Your writing is inferior than that of him.

6) Nothing but novels please him.
Nothing pleases him but novels.

7) The teacher gave the boy an advice which he refused.
The teacher gave the boy a piece of advice which he refused.

8) He brought the articles to the market which he wanted to sell.
He took the articles which he wanted to sell to the market.
"that" will used instead of which in sentence no 7.
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i. Please tell me where your brother is?/ Tell me where is your brother, Please?
ii. Sajjad and Saleem were late.
iii. He is the cleverest boy in the class.
iv. I met him last month.
v. Your writing is inferior to his.
vi. Nothing but novels can please him.
vii. The teacher gave the boy an advice that he refused.
viii. He had brought the articles to the market which he wanted to sell.
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"that" will used instead of which in sentence no 7.
Hmmm you are right I have pointed it out before.
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He told me that he had been waiting for me for a long time.
since is correct because there is not portion of time.
a long time is not specific span of time that is why there will be used since.
for is used for portion of time.
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since is correct because there is not portion of time.
a long time is not specific span of time that is why there will be used since.
for is used for portion of time.
Usage of For:
is used to say how long an action or situation continues for:
Bake the cake for 40 minutes. ( we don't know which forty minutes)
We had been talking for a good half hour. (no specification of beginning or ending)
He's been off work for a while.( unspecified time period)
So FOR is used when the accurate time is unknown.

Now See the usage of Since:

from a particular time or event in the past until the present, or in that period of time:
We've been waiting here since two o'clock.( time is specified)
I haven't played rugby since I left university.( time is specified)
She left London ten years ago, and I haven't seen her since.( time is specified)
The factory has been here since the 1970s.
It was exactly five years since her father had died.
Since the end of the war over five thousand prisoners have been released.
He lost his job five years ago, but has since found other work.
I left school in 1995, and since then I've lived in London.

So when the time period is specified we use SINCE
I am afraid you need to explore the correct usage
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"that" will used instead of which in sentence no 7.
7) The teacher gave the boy an advice which he refused.

No there is no matter whether we use which or that, but what is incorrect is the use of an: Thus the correct sentence is:

The teacher gave the boy a piece of /some advice which he refused.
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7) The teacher gave the boy an advice which he refused.

No there is no matter whether we use which or that, but what is incorrect is the use of an: Thus the correct sentence is:

The teacher gave the boy a piece of /some advice which he refused.
Exactly, there is no need of the word that in this sentence. This factor is also explained in Sadaat's Exploring.... clearly.
It should be :
The teacher gave a piece of advice to the boy which he refused.
or
The teacher gave advice to the boy which he refused.
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7) The teacher gave the boy an advice which he refused.

No there is no matter whether we use which or that, but what is incorrect is the use of an: Thus the correct sentence is:

The teacher gave the boy a piece of /some advice which he refused.
it seems correct...
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Not to speak of meat even vegetables were not available now.
It should be What to speak of meat, even, vegetables were not available then.
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Hmmm you are right I have pointed it out before.
sister kindly explain difference between that and which because many members confuse regarding this.
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Well as per my minute knowledge Which differ from That as much as the Formal differ from the Informal.

The relative pronoun 'who' should be used for people; whereas, 'which' should be used for things. The relative pronoun 'that' can be used for either, but it is quite unfashionable to use 'that' for people. (The consensus seems to be that using 'that' for people is still acceptable in speech and informal writing, but avoid doing it in formal writing.)

Examples:
The man who swam the channel.
("who swam the channel" is a clause. It adds information about the man.)

The PC which keeps breaking down is under guarantee until March.
("which keeps breaking down" is a clause. It adds information about the PC.)

Remember, "that" can replace "who" or "which".)
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