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SADIA SHAFIQ · #91 Tuesday, January 01, 2013

I have said so just for improvement ,not for the sake of argument .Now look my dear

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We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base.

1.This green highlighted one will encompass the passage in correlation with personality ethics vs character ethics .

2.The dark red highlighted line is important one .How you say it is not necessary.

Now see yours . . .

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Inborn traits could be used in order to enjoy amiable relationships with others.

Is it encompassing the whole lines ? Are all lines are related with each other to form a discourse ?

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You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory.(unnecessary)

Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way.

These are original lines .why are you emphasizing again and again on self recognition whereas writer is saying different things.Self-mastery and self-discipline .......how you think it is the process of recognition .

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But self-recognition is the key to have cordial relationships, because without self-recognition one can not recognize others

The writer is saying about character vs personality .The difference between two is ..

What we are =character

and what others percept =personality .

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If you are not agree ,then I will not comment further on your`s posts . stay blessed !

SADIA SHAFIQ · #92 Tuesday, January 01, 2013

1. Make a précis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading (20 +5) 2005

Total word =325/3=108

Basically, psychoses and neuroses represent man’s inability to maintain a balanced or equated polarity in conducting his life. The ego becomes exclusively or decidedly one sided. In psychoses there is a complete collapse of the ego back into the inner recesses of the personal and collective unconsciouses.When he is repressed toward fulfilling some life goal and where he is further unable to sublimate himself toward another goal, man regresses into goal structures not actually acceptable to himself or to the society. Strong emotional sickness of the psychotic type is like having the shadow run wild. The entire psyche regresses to archaic, animal forms of behaviors. In less severe forms of emotional sickness there may be an accentuated and overpowering use of one of the four mental functions at the expense of the other three. Either thinking, feeling, intuiting or seeing may assume such a superior role as to render the other three inoperative. The persona may become so dominant as to create a totally one-sided ego, as in some forms of neurotic behavior. All in all, whatever the type of severity of the emotional disorder, it can be taken as a failure of the psyche to maintain a proper balance between the polarities of life .Essentially, psychoses and neuroses are an alienation of the self from its true goal of self actualization.In this sense the culture is of no consequence. Emotional disorder is not a question of being out of tune with one’s culture so much as it is of being out of tune with one’s self. Consequently, neurosis is more than bizarre behavior, especially as it may be interpreted by contemporaries in the culture. This interpretation avoids the sociological question of what is a mental disorder, since form of behavior which is acceptable in one culture may be considered neurotic in other culture. To Jung, the deviation from cultural norms is not the point. The inability to balance out personal polarities is.

Title of Precis ; Difference between Neuroses and psychoses .

Total words 111

Man loses nous totally or partially in psychological illnesses .He surrenders will power by taking refuge in past memories or of culture in psychoses.When he is unable to perform during achievement process ,then pretends these goals are not acceptable to everyone . In neuroses, man uses one mental power more out of three .This process create one sided personality .Both disease hinder to achieve one`s goals.Alienation from culture is not hazardous in relation with development of character.Identification of neuroses is weird because of changing patterns of values within societies .It is accepted unbalanced use of mental functions will identify neuroses.

seher bano · #93 Tuesday, January 01, 2013

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Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

I have said so just for improvement ,not for the sake of argument .Now look my dear

1.This green highlighted one will encompass the passage in correlation with personality ethics vs character ethics .

2.The dark red highlighted line is important one .How you say it is not necessary.

Now see yours . . .

Is it encompassing the whole lines ? Are all lines are related with each other to form a discourse ?

These are original lines .why are you emphasizing again and again on self recognition whereas writer is saying different things.Self-mastery and self-discipline .......how you think it is the process of recognition .

The writer is saying about character vs personality .The difference between two is ..

What we are =character

and what others percept =personality .

.
If you are not agree ,then I will not comment further on your`s posts . stay blessed !

There is a difference in understanding; Sometimes, despite difference in understanding we may be right or otherwise. I think any third party may correct us... Well you must comment on my post coz it is a learning platform; and it would not offend me in any way

SADIA SHAFIQ · #94 Friday, January 04, 2013

1. Make a precis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading: 2004

Total words =349/3=116

We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base. You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory. Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way. Real self-respect comes from dominion over*self from true independence. Independence is an achievement. Inter dependence is a choice only independent people can make. Unless we are willing to achieve real independence, it's foolish to try to develop human relations skills. We might try. We might even have some degree of success when the sun is shining. But when the difficult times come - and they will - We won't have the foundation to keep things together. The most important ingredient we put into any relationship is not what we say or what we do, but what we are. And if our words and our actions come from superficial human relations techniques (the Personality Ethic) rather than from our own inner core (the character Ethic), others will sense that duplicity. We simply won't be able to create and sustain the foundation necessary" for effective interdependence. The techniques and skills that really make a difference in human interaction are the ones that almost naturally flow from a truly independent character. So the place to begin building any relationship is inside ourselves, inside our Circle of Influence, our own character. As we become independent - Proactive, centered in correct principles, value driven and able to organize and execute around the priorities in our life with integrity - we then can choose to become interdependent - capable of building rich, enduring, highly productive relationships with other people.

Title of Precis ;The vitality of intra-personal communication.
Total words =124

Without intra-personal communication ,one can not gain victory in intra personal communication .For such achievement , one should like one`s own self .One can do this by gaining mastery over self .In absence of communication within the self ,one can not gear up interpersonal relations.If one may succeed in it , then it is timely because in difficult situations we can not have durable relation .In relationship character is base which make one`s self original in the eyes of others and we identify each person by monologues of self .we should establish relationship with our souls so that we can develop good relations with others.These relations which are entrenched deep in ourselves make connections durable.

amna rafiq · #95 Friday, January 04, 2013

2010
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. instead of deriving pleausre from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. if he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. if this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence,and even the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? why should the scientifc investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved fromt he drudgery of his own housework? to such questions envy finds no answer. fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. whosoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy. what cure is there for envy? for the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. but, leaving saints out of account, the only cure of envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness. but the envious man may say: 'what is the good of telling me that the cure of envy is happiness? i cannot find happiness while i continue to feel envy, and you tell me that i cannot cease to be envious until i find happiness.' but real life is never so logical as this. mereley to realize the cause of one's own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them

Do check....
Precis:
Malice is the most hazardous quality of human being through which man devoted himself to everlasting unhappiness because he concentrates more upon other's possession.If envious feelings are developed without any check definitely it will ruin all the fine skills of man,meanwhile various illogical & unansweable questions are raised within selfish mind regarding other's possessions for which he find himself quite righteous.Admiration is the simplest way to achieve happiness however saints have also advised to adopt selflessness.Happiness and realizing the causes of selfish feelings are the steps to overcome these harmful feelings.
Title: "Fatal impacts of envy"

Bilal Hassan · #96 Friday, January 04, 2013

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Originally Posted by amna rafiq

2010
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. instead of deriving pleausre from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. if he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. if this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence,and even the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? why should the scientifc investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved fromt he drudgery of his own housework? to such questions envy finds no answer. fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. whosoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy. what cure is there for envy? for the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. but, leaving saints out of account, the only cure of envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness. but the envious man may say: 'what is the good of telling me that the cure of envy is happiness? i cannot find happiness while i continue to feel envy, and you tell me that i cannot cease to be envious until i find happiness.' but real life is never so logical as this. mereley to realize the cause of one's own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them

Do check....
Precis:
Malice is the most hazardous quality of human being through which man devoted himself to everlasting unhappiness because he concentrates more upon other's possession.If envious feelings are developed without any check definitely it will ruin all the fine skills of man,meanwhile various illogical & unansweable questions are raised within selfish mind regarding other's possessions for which he find himself quite righteous.Admiration is the simplest way to achieve happiness however saints have also advised to adopt selflessness.Happiness and realizing the causes of selfish feelings are the steps to overcome these harmful feelings.
Title: "Fatal impacts of envy"

precis is somewhat good but your title doesn't reflect the whole of para...
what about the cure of envy? and you yourself have talked about it in your precis...

My Title: Envy, a curse and its cure:

I again give a tip for precis that i always do...

Dear you must pay great attention to your title, i always say and i reiterate here that if precis is the summary of original para, then title is the summary of your precis...

so do pay a great deal of heed to your title as title decides the whole fate...
You do not decide about the title from the original para, because original para has many irrelevant things, you better make precis first, then when you finalize your precis, now give a title to your precis because it contains only the currux of the whole para and there won't be any contradiction between the title and precis as well...

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Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

1. Make a precis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading: 2004

Total words =349/3=116

We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base. You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory. Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way. Real self-respect comes from dominion over*self from true independence. Independence is an achievement. Inter dependence is a choice only independent people can make. Unless we are willing to achieve real independence, it's foolish to try to develop human relations skills. We might try. We might even have some degree of success when the sun is shining. But when the difficult times come - and they will - We won't have the foundation to keep things together. The most important ingredient we put into any relationship is not what we say or what we do, but what we are. And if our words and our actions come from superficial human relations techniques (the Personality Ethic) rather than from our own inner core (the character Ethic), others will sense that duplicity. We simply won't be able to create and sustain the foundation necessary" for effective interdependence. The techniques and skills that really make a difference in human interaction are the ones that almost naturally flow from a truly independent character. So the place to begin building any relationship is inside ourselves, inside our Circle of Influence, our own character. As we become independent - Proactive, centered in correct principles, value driven and able to organize and execute around the priorities in our life with integrity - we then can choose to become interdependent - capable of building rich, enduring, highly productive relationships with other people.

Title of Precis ;The vitality of intra-personal communication.
Total words =124

Without intra-personal communication ,one can not gain victory in intra personal communication (when we repeat same words twice with hiatus of a clause or three words, it looks frivolous, even compound nouns are not used this way).For such achievement , one should like one`s own self (one's own self is no word at all, replace it simply with himself) .One can do this by gaining mastery over self .In absence of communication within the self ,one can not gear up interpersonal relations. (even in title you are talking about intra personal, but here you are using inter personal...Interpersonal is the real word to be used if at all) If one may succeed in it , then it is timely because in difficult situations we can not have durable relation .In relationship character is base which make (followed by a singular subject) one`s self original in the eyes of others and we identify each person by monologues of self (Monologue itself connotes self talking, self you have added is extra) .we should establish relationship with our souls so that we can develop good relations with others.These relations which are entrenched deep in ourselves make connections durable.

Sadia api, i challenge you or someone else to prove me wrong regarding what i am going to say...
Your very title is the manifestation that you couldn't grasp the para...your title is nowhere near to it...

I think the best title would be "Self actualization and essence of originality"..

SADIA SHAFIQ · #97 Saturday, January 05, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

1. Make a precis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading: 2004

Total words =349/3=116

We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base. You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory. Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way. Real self-respect comes from dominion over*self from true independence. Independence is an achievement. Inter dependence is a choice only independent people can make. Unless we are willing to achieve real independence, it's foolish to try to develop human relations skills. We might try. We might even have some degree of success when the sun is shining. But when the difficult times come - and they will - We won't have the foundation to keep things together. The most important ingredient we put into any relationship is not what we say or what we do, but what we are. And if our words and our actions come from superficial human relations techniques (the Personality Ethic) rather than from our own inner core the character Ethic, others will sense that duplicity. We simply won't be able to create and sustain the foundation necessary" for effective interdependence. The techniques and skills that really make a difference in human interaction are the ones that almost naturally flow from a truly independent character. So the place to begin building any relationship is inside ourselves, inside our Circle of Influence, our own character. As we become independent - Proactive, centered in correct principles, value driven and able to organize and execute around the priorities in our life with integrity - we then can choose to become interdependent - capable of building rich, enduring, highly productive relationships with other people.

Title of Precis ;The vitality of intra-personal communication.
Total words =122

Without intra-personal communication ,one can not gain victory in intra(inter) I have modified it inter-personal communication in my next post but mods have deleted it ) personal communication .For such achievement , one should like one`s own self (Here i need some info ,one is used as a pronoun .It is appropriate If would use one with him and in genitive case one`s own by himself .I have read same personal pronoun is repeated .I can`t use one with him .Am I right ? .One can do this by gaining mastery over self .In absence of communication within the self ,one can not gear up interpersonal relations.If one may succeed in it , then it is timely because in difficult situations we can not have durable relation .In relationship character is base which makes( I can`t understand it ,Please clarify it ) one`s self original in the eyes of others and we identify each person by monologues (you are right) .we should establish relationship with our souls so that we can develop good relations with others.These relations which are entrenched deep in ourselves make connections durable.

Interpersonal_Communication
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/D...unication.html

2.Intrapersonal+communication
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Int...+communication

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrape..._communication

1.The green highlighted area in original passage shows Inter personal communication .Have a look at these links regarding inter-dependence .

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdependence

2.http://www.ehow.com/list_7811081_int...on-styles.html

Interdependence is a relationship dynamic where both partners practice a degree of emotional independence while still recognizing that they can have a commitment and connection to each other without being dependent on each other

The purple highlighted area shows Intra-personal communication. I have highlighted it in original text and referred here links showing the linkages between inter and intra communication. The character ethic vs personality ethic clearly manifests it in text .social interactions shows inter personal while '' may truncate truncate the vital character base'' shows lack of communication within the self --inter personal communication.

I will admit your challenge and ready too If you can convince my title is wrong .This is the most tricky passage which I have summarized .What I have written that is after research .That`s why I referred links here too.

"Self actualization and essence of originality"

This is very good title ,also encompass the passage as well .But there can be other title too.Once you give any title ,you are not ready to admit there may be other as well . We can talk about it .

amna rafiq · #98 Saturday, January 05, 2013

Thanks Bilal for paying heed....
i ll post further do check them too so that i can improve.....

Bilal Hassan · #99 Saturday, January 05, 2013

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Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

Interpersonal_Communication
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/D...unication.html

2.Intrapersonal+communication
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Int...+communication

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrape..._communication

1.The green highlighted area in original passage shows Inter personal communication .Have a look at these links regarding inter-dependence .

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdependence

2.http://www.ehow.com/list_7811081_int...on-styles.html

Interdependence is a relationship dynamic where both partners practice a degree of emotional independence while still recognizing that they can have a commitment and connection to each other without being dependent on each other

The purple highlighted area shows Intra-personal communication. I have highlighted it in original text and referred here links showing the linkages between inter and intra communication. The character ethic vs personality ethic clearly manifests it in text .social interactions shows inter personal while '' may truncate truncate the vital character base'' shows lack of communication within the self --inter personal communication.

I will admit your challenge and ready too If you can convince my title is wrong .This is the most tricky passage which I have summarized .What I have written that is after research .That`s why I referred links here too.

"Self actualization and essence of originality"

This is very good title ,also encompass the passage as well .But there can be other title too.Once you give any title ,you are not ready to admit there may be other as well . We can talk about it .

well first of all i am contrite for uing that blatant language, i must not have given my opinion so adamantly, but dear your title was going so off the mark that i was compelled to use these words, i am contrite for that behavior sis.

the pink highlighted areas that you have given are just the corollaries of the title i have suggested, these are the contrivances and decoys to lure the candidate and make him go astray.....Yes other titles are also there but these must be synonymous with each, your title doesn't qualify to be synonymous with my title...

Dear why on earth are you giving me the links about interdependence and inter personal communication etc? This is not an expansion in which you are trying to convince me by corroborations from outside, you don't need any research in that case, you just need to remain within the para given, every thing is within the para, as i said the words that convinced you about that title were just decoys to trap you, i reiterate that you have been caught....

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Originally Posted by amna rafiq

Thanks Bilal for paying heed....
i ll post further do check them too so that i can improve.....

sure dear, my pleasure...

SADIA SHAFIQ · #**100** Saturday, January 05, 2013

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Originally Posted by Bilal Hassan

well first of all i am contrite for uing that blatant language, i must not have given my opinion so adamantly, but dear your title was going so off the mark that i was compelled to use these words, i am contrite for that behavior sis.

the pink highlighted areas that you have given are just the corollaries of the title i have suggested, these are the contrivances and decoys to lure the candidate and make him go astray.....Yes other titles are also there but these must be synonymous with each, your title doesn't qualify to be synonymous with my title...

Dear why on earth are you giving me the links about interdependence and inter personal communication etc? This is not an expansion in which you are trying to convince me by corroborations from outside, you don't need any research in that case, you just need to remain within the para given, every thing is within the para, as i said the words that convinced you about that title were just decoys to trap you, i reiterate that you have been caught....

Do not feel like that .It is my habit to accept things which have grounds that`s why I have provided you citation .You might be right in saying I could not grasp the content .But my dear brother ,for this i need your precision on this particular topic or I wanted to discuss it with you .This discussion would not for the sake of argument but It will serve as a reminder for me in a peper .

My question for you kindly tell me what is the central idea of this passage .You are very good person and If you feel something bad from my side ,then do not consider it .Because I have no such intentions .I just want to work with logic

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