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Under the pretext of securing her own strategic interests, the United Sates of America tries to manipulate and dabble in the affairs of other countries. Anything happens from the North Pole to South Pole or anywhere in the world, somehow becomes an American concern. Pakistan is thus no exception. Essentially, US policy configurations vis-à-vis Pakistan has been that of “master” and not of a friend. Oscillating between persuasion and coercion, the US trends to employ all available means to keep Pakistan under watch, pressure and diplomatic subjugation.
Pakistan’s geo-strategic position, nuclear capability, agricultural and technological potential as well as the Islamic ideology base are the vital concerns for the US policy makers. The US will not and cannot allow Pakistan to govern her own affairs. While Pakistan was still in its infancy, the American hawk pounced upon and hijacked our national interest by building up an exaggerated threat of former Soviet Union expansionist designs against Pakistan and their so called ‘mad’ drive to warm the waters.
US-Pakistan relations have passed through many ups and downs. Alternating periods of cooperation and sanctions against Pakistan always evoked debate in both countries, reflecting varying degrees of distrust as well as convergence and divergence on bilateral, regional and global issues. Given the sharp differences in the positions of the two countries in the global hierarchy, Pakistan’s political circles always found this relationship overwhelming. This perception became more conspicuous in the early 1980s when the United States, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and many other states joined hands to build an Islamic-Afghan resistance to the Soviet military presence in Afghanistan.
Involvement of CIA in Pakistan began after Soviet Union attack on Afghanistan. The CIA and ISI worked together to train the Afghan Jihadi groups to fight with Russia.
Steve Coll in his book “GHOST WARS: THE SCRET HISTORY OF CIA, AFGHANISTAN, AND BIN LADEN FROM THE SOVIET INVASION TO SEPTEMBER 10, 2001” puts particular emphasis on the fact that the U.S. intelligence community wished to remain an invisible player in Afghanistan at that time. The United States feared that their actions and words of support for the Afghan people would instigate further animosity with the Soviet Union, perhaps even causing the two superpowers to clash militarily instigating a World War III.
Because the United States wished to remain an invisible puppet master, much responsibility was put into Pakistan’s hands. The U.S. funneled most of its money, arms, and negotiations for the region through Pakistan’s ISI. This gave the ISI incredible capability to run the war as it wished and favor factions which in the long-run would support Pakistan’s best interests. By 1988, the Soviet Union decided that Afghanistan had turned into a liability and was not worth the effort, money, and forces to sustain the Afghani occupation. The role of U.S. supported freedom fighters played a key part in the Soviets’ decision to leave. As the Soviets withdrew, the United States felt the battle was won, and interest in Afghanistan waned in American politics.
Since then, US policies towards Pakistan have had greater implications for Pakistan’s domestic context. There were Pakistani winners and losers from the American economic and military assistance and secret funding in the 1980s. In addition to General Zia-ul Haq’s military government, the major winners were Islamic groups and parties. The ISI and the CIA used American funds, material and weapons to strengthen Islamic orthodoxy and militancy to expel the Soviets from Afghanistan.
Starting from Liaqat Ali Khan, the first Prime Minister of Pakistan, and the successive governments allowed themselves to be brought to a situation where they entered into mutual defense and economic arrangements, more conducive to strengthen the American security interests than of Pakistan. In addition to economic and political means the US has always employed her secret terrorist arm, the CIA in foreign lands.
Mirza Aslam Beig wrote in his article that

“The US has posted her agents on key positions during the past doctorial regimes in Pakistan and manipulated the entire system of the country, which always facilitated to implement her own designs. We must utilize our guts to get rid of old masters”.
The American intervention is Pakistan is not hidden phenomenon. The America always thinks that he is super power and it is the duty of America to interfere in the internal matters of other countries. It is generally believed that America wanted to destabilize the democratic government of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto because firstly, he framed and tried to restlessly pursue and secondly, for apprehensions he was influencing the minds and policies of number of Islamic and Third World countries. He posed a serious challenge to the US interest in the region. ‘He had to be eliminated’
Bedgider Timrmizi wrote in his book “Profile of Intelligence” that on August 9, 1976, American Secretary of State, Dr. Henry Kissinger had a talk with ZAB, to dissuade him from acquiring the Nuclear Reprocessing Plant form France for which the deal had already been finalized after Pakistan had agreed to all the safeguard requirements laid down by the France and International Atomic Energy Agency. In their talk Dr. Kissinger found ZAB inflexible and determined to go ahead with the acquisition of the reprocessing plant and to make Pakistan a nuclear power. Infuriated, he warned ZAB, “We will make a horrible example of you,” adding menacingly, “When the railroad is coming, you get out of the way.” The US virtually mowed down ZAB. The political and economic crisis situation that started to develop during 1976-77 was fully exploited by the power broker US.
From the start till now U.S always opposed nuclear assets of Pakistan and it always tried to destroy or get hold of them. U.S on the one hand announced Pakistan as a major ally in “War on terror”; on the other hand it always showed concerns about the nuclear assets and always tried to involve Pakistan in terrorist activates.
Salmon (2007) presented a report on the nuclear arms of Pakistan .The report deftly links proliferation to terrorism. “It highlights on the one hand the dangers posed by the al-Qa‘ida network and the terrorism threats emanating from the tribal areas of Pakistan. And on the other, it underscores the illicit smuggling network in nuclear know-how and materials run out of a nuclear armed Pakistan by the infamous A. Q. Khan, not to mention the recent erosion of nonproliferation regimes, in particular the precarious condition in which the actions of North Korea and Iran have placed the Treaty on the Non-proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
Further adding to Salmon’s study in 2009, Ackerman’s report about the terrorism revealed that “the US should focus appropriate attention on Pakistan’s northwest frontier as one of the most likely origin points of a WMD attack against the U.S. by Al-Qa‘ida, which has become ensconced, together with other violent Islamist groups, in the region”.
After 9-11 the U.S intervention in Pakistan grew up and not only CIA but other U.S private contractors like Blackwater and Dynacop start working in Pakistan. The situation is getting worse and the relations among CIA and ISI get complicated on these issues.
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aoa wonderfull peice of analysis.bravo!

The plus points of your article

a- beautiful, impressive diction
b- persuasive analysis
c- realistic though sarcastic approach
d- coherant and well organised

Weak points

a- we use "ON THE PRETEXT OF" not "under the pretext of" (see the very start of your article)
b u said America made us think USSR is dangerous, or against our national interests...prove your point with logics or its a weak argument for Russian invasion was as lethal to the interests of Pakistan as it was to Afghanistan itself ,Russian threat was real
c- don’t use "US think she is a super power" for indeed it is true upto some extent even till now. .but if u want some quipping here you may say "the so called super power ..." or anything similar
d- your article comprises 95% past events. if you are planning to publish your article add contemporary facts, that would be a huge advantage
e- do give some suggestions, as it is the quality of every good article
f- lastly while mentioning one instance of government that was destabilized by US i.e of ZAB you have risked the neutrality of your article(dnt get me wrong im also an admirer of ZAB).it seems you have mentioned him either to add the material that followed after you mentioned him,or you are writing the article more for eulogizing him rather than to demonizing CIA factor
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It is a well-researched article. Well done. In my view add also the role of Pakistanis who played in the hands of CIA, which include journalists and army grnerals. During Zia era the USAID started a large number of Development Projects in the country and most of their staff was gathering intellegence data which they are using now for their benefits.
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agricultural and technological potential ???
are we agriculturally and technologically so much potent that America has taken us as a power to be reckoned with????

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While Pakistan was still in its infancy, the American hawk pounced upon and hijacked our national interest by building up an exaggerated threat of former Soviet Union expansionist designs against Pakistan and their so called ‘mad’ drive to warm the waters.
Did America really build up the scene? Or the scene was driven by the dynamic bipolar rivalry??
Was the Soviet Union not a threat to us??
i dun think so really.as kawish said, the USSR was really a threat to us.and i can justify this matter.

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US-Pakistan relations have passed through many ups and downs.
In ur article where “up” is indicated?
u hv just explained "down".

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Alternating periods of cooperation and sanctions against Pakistan always evoked debate in both countries, reflecting varying degrees of distrust as well as convergence and divergence on bilateral, regional and global issues. Given the sharp differences in the positions of the two countries in the global hierarchy, Pakistan’s political circles always found this relationship overwhelming. This perception became more conspicuous in the early 1980s when the United States, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and many other states joined hands to build an Islamic-Afghan resistance to the Soviet military presence in Afghanistan.
This paragraph is really the core and crux of ur article.but I really suspect that this is not ur own creation.is it? I m sorry if I m wrong.

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Because the United States wished to remain an invisible puppet master,
Invisible puppet master???
How a puppet becomes master???
and invisible?
but the history writes US role visibly.

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The America always thinks that he is super power
At times u refer America as “he” and at times “she”.

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U.S on the one hand announced Pakistan as a major ally in “War on terror”; on the other hand it always showed concerns about the nuclear assets and always tried to involve Pakistan in terrorist activates.
The US involved Pakistan in terrorist activities??
How? When??


sir plz explain these questions.
plz don't mind if my criticism hurts u in any way.
i hope that u wl take it positively and constructively.

and i really appreciate ur effort.
u do hv a potential to write.

THANKS.
ALLAH BLESS U.
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Alternating periods of cooperation and sanctions against Pakistan always evoked debate in both countries, reflecting varying degrees of distrust as well as convergence and divergence on bilateral, regional and global issues. Given the sharp differences in the positions of the two countries in the global hierarchy, Pakistan’s political circles always found this relationship overwhelming. This perception became more conspicuous in the early 1980s when the United States, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and many other states joined hands to build an Islamic-Afghan resistance to the Soviet military presence in Afghanistan.

This paragraph is really the core and crux of ur article.but I really suspect that this is not ur own creation.is it? I m sorry if I m wrong.
This paragraph is from Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi's article - Limited options, published on October 04, 2009 in Daily Times (See link):
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Alternating periods of cooperation and sanctions against Pakistan always evoked debate in both countries, reflecting varying degrees of distrust as well as convergence and divergence on bilateral, regional and global issues.

Given the sharp differences in the positions of the two countries in the global hierarchy, Pakistan’s political circles always found this relationship overwhelming. This perception became more conspicuous in the early 1980s when the United States, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and many other states joined hands to build an Islamic-Afghan resistance to the Soviet military presence in Afghanistan.
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Aslam Alikum,

Thank u every one for your criticism and appreciation.

@ Khwish actually this article is the summary of the Background chapter of my thesis which is about Blackwater. When i completed my chapter I assembled few points to make an article, coz i want to get it published. anyhow, i will work on my weak points. I included the points about US intervention through CIA in this article in the next article i will include points about Us intervention through private contractors like Blackwater.

@ Sociologist PU thanks for ur appreciation.

@Yes we are agriculturally potent and many countries like India and US tried to destroy our agricultural system.

Pakistan’s precious and fertile agricultural land is up for grabs to the highest foreign bidder. Pakistan is not alone in being targeted thus by rich countries with little or no food resources. The UN has already condemned this purchase of agricultural land as a form of neo-colonialism. Over the past five years in a hardly-noticed wave of investment, rich agricultural land and forests in poor countries are being snapped up by buyers from cash-rich countries. Leading this grab of poor country resources are the rapidly industrialising states and the oil-rich countries who have, between 2006-2009, either directly through governments or through sovereign wealth funds and companies, already grabbed or are in the process of grabbing between 37 to 49 million acres of developing countries’ farmland (a July 2009 report by Robert Schubert of Food and Water Watch).

How does all this impact Pakistan? Pakistan has rich agricultural land and adequate water although the latter’s distribution has been subject to political machinations. There has also been a seemingly deliberate effort by successive ruling elites to undermine the country’s agricultural potential and nowhere is this more brazenly evident than at present with power outages preventing crucial water supply through tubewells; and many rich lands being converted into housing colonies! Then we have had artificially created sugar and wheat shortages – ‘artificial’ because for the last few years our wheat and sugarcane crops have been bountiful. As for the wonderful local fruit, that is also being diverted to feed external populations through exports that are not only depriving the locals of their land’s bounty but also raising local prices so only the rich elite can consume what is left.

http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpres...anst-pakistan/

Another game against Pakistan was Indus water treaty, i hope u know about it and u know the consequences of this treaty as well. This was actually a deliberate effort to destroy the agriculture system of Pakistan.

@Actually, i mentioned the ups like I told about the CIA and ISI relationship during Afghans war which was actually considered as the best time of cooperation among these organizations.

@puppet master means master of puppets, who were Pakistani politicians. US was the masters and our politicians or dictators were puppets.

@ He, she is my fault i confess it and, I will not repeat it in future. Thanks

@ US always tried to involve Pakistan in terrorist activities. I have an example



"Instead of removing the mistrust between the CIA and the ISI, the recent high-level talks between American and Pakistani military and intelligence officials ended in a fiasco, with allegations and counter-allegations being traded against each other. For example, Pakistan was critical of the US for disregarding foreign support to the Baloch resistance movement. It claimed that the CIA dossier on the ISI was based on “India-influenced intelligence inputs”. Privately, some of Pakistan’s security officials did not hide their concerns about the alleged US-India-Afghanistan nexus aimed at destabilizing Pakistan (Khan, 2010).
CIA has blamed the ISI for the July 7 bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, while referring to communication intercepts between Pakistani intelligence officers and the militants who allegedly carried out this attack.
The leakage of highly confidential documents to the media and the validation of Indian allegations by the CIA are a cause of displeasure for the Pakistani policymakers. Pakistan strongly rejects these allegations and terms the reports of its intelligence officers’ links with the militants and their role in bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul baseless (Khan, 2010)."

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story...l.asp?Id=16421

http://www.sdpi.org/SDPI_in_the_pres...august_08.html

Chk these links for verification.

Lastly, I am not Sir, I am Ms hehehehe and I never mind criticism. In fact, I am thankful

@ Andrew Dufresne u r right. U can see i cited all my sources in article, sorry if i forget to cite this one. But, I cited it in my thesis and may be i forget to cite it here. So, accept my apologies for it.
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actually this article is the summary of the Background chapter of my thesis which is about Blackwater
u r writing a thesis on black water??

OMG...
play it safe miss.
make sure that u r not going to endanger urself.
ur published thesis wud surely be read by intelligence agencies and of course the BLACK WATER.

and do u think that u hv really enough material and facts to vindicate ur thesis statement?

and i request u to plz do share that masterpiece with us here at the forum when u complete it.

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