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Sammar Ellahi Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:22 AM

Dear Bunko,

Sir Razi advises according to his vast experience. Each year dozens of his students qualify CSS. BTW, its not the last word. If you are willing to use headings, then go ahead. Phir na kehna k pehlay bataya kiyon nhn ;)

aliz_khanz Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:48 AM

well this is kind of confusing......... sum guys say do it sum say don't but i really think one should go for headings because if u r really writing a 30-35 page essay ......it would help examiner to evaluate what exactly is written.......he is not really access a civil service paper of pakistan solely on the basis of outlines !!! ..... and i would even say that most depends on the material u have written !!!

Syed Saadat Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:58 AM

[QUOTE=bunko;152950]@ Aarizahmed;

Thanks brother, Yes :) The reason behind my confusion is,

1) My two friends, Who passed CSS, They used Headings in their Essay.
2) This year, My another friend, Used headings in essay and got 51 marks.
3) Prof. Ali Rizi ( Very Good English Teacher ) prohibit to use any type of headings in essay.

So Question in my mind is, If Prof. Strictly prohibit to use headings in Essay, Than how come these guys pass their Essay Exam. :/

So thats Why, I gradually ask this questions in this forum to evaluate the majority.
Anywayz, Thanks for Help!


Regards,[/QUOTE]

well i think headings in essay is not a great idea,if someone has passed despite heading it only means that headings or no headings ,the content matters alot and headings do not solely bring you down to the level of failure in essay paper.

I dint use headings at all in essay and scored 61 ,last year ofcourse:pp

Essays dont have headings they should be

Crisp
Outlined
Precise
full of Cogent Content


ALSO length does not matter as much as it may seem,I remeber we had instructions to write 4000 words and i could write around 1500-2000 words essay and dint drag it becasue i dint have more to offer on that subject at that instant and still scored reasonably.Its kind of a trap one feels in exam that he/she is writing new things but actually are just putting across the same thing in a slightly different manner ,so do read your essay as you attempt it from time to time ,say after you have written 3-4 pages,go through it to check relevance and avoid repetition.
Avoid repitition specially repitition usually done for the sake of increasing the volume.

Sajid Sadeem Wednesday, November 04, 2009 04:31 AM

[QUOTE=Syed Saadat;152957]well i think headings in essay is not a great idea,if someone has passed despite heading it only means that headings or no headings.

I dint use headings at all in essay and scored 61 ,last year ofcourse:pp

Essays dont have headings they should be

Crisp
Outlined
Precise
full of Cogent Content

ALSO length does not matter as much as it may seem,I remeber we had instructions to write 4000 words and i could write around 1500-2000 words.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with Mr Saadat.
Technically headings are not part of an essay. They may be used to show separate parts of a literary paper, research paper, news report, or even a simple question.
When you write an outline, it gives the whole picture of your essay in a nutshell. You don't need to write headings again. They would just create more hurdles and confusion in the conformity and coherence of thought presented in the essay.
You must go through your essay with your content and matter along with your original sentence structuring (expression). In other words an essay can be divided into these parts: Content (wording), Concept (premise, what is your logic or the point on which you have framed your ideas), Coherence (conformity of thought), References (quotations, facts and figures, etc) and Syntaxing (expression, your language).
I believe one should have a good control of all these factors to produce good essays.

Noor Ul Haq2009 Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=bunko;152829]@ Noor Ul Haq;

If we write, Essay daily, when we will get time to study other subjects, :/
Not working my side. I am studying since august. I have not enough time to go for lengthy efforts.

Just let me know guys, Did you used Headings in ESSAY PAPER?
I am not talking about OUTLINE, I am asking Sub Headings in Essay.

Kindly answer;

Regards,[/QUOTE]

You need to spare time for it, Other subjects too need your engilsh expression so it is corelative with every subject.
I did not use headings and sub headings in essay.
the material inside essay and your english means much more than your headings or styles.

Regards

bunko Wednesday, November 04, 2009 01:09 PM

Thanks All !

So Conclusion is, We should not use Headings or Sub-Headings and Length of the essay doesn't matter, what matter is your qualitative approach of writing.For the Coherent of paragraph using of transition words and for the improvement of essay facts and figures is compulsory which is also mentioned in FPSC requirement of Essay paper.

InshAllah will do my best to get good marks,
Hope your recommendations will be beneficial for us. Amen!


Regards,:oo

shallowwater Wednesday, November 04, 2009 03:41 PM

@ All.

Well i myself used headings in the essay paper and passed. I only used headings of the points that i mentioned in the outline. I think if you are writing a 25 page essay then how could the examiner come to know what you are writing. I mean it becomes monotonous that you keep writing without giving the examiner a fair idea of whats going on. I think one should leave 2 pages for the outline but write the outline only after finishing the essay. If you write the outline first then it becomes difficult to follow it. You must have an outline in your mind and try to follow it, then after finishing the essay write the outline on the first 2 pages that you left blank.

bunko Wednesday, November 04, 2009 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=shallowwater;153084]@ All.

Well i myself used headings in the essay paper and passed. I only used headings of the points that i mentioned in the outline..[/QUOTE]

Thats what I am worried about. how come essay checker know, Which information is where, on this basis it is fair chance that checker MIGHT use his assumptions about the essay quality and judge according to just reading few paragraph and give marks, So chance of Pass and Fail ratio is 50:50%

However, if we use headings of the points that we mentioned in outline can fascinate the checker to evaluate other paragraphs while giving numbers. According to me as being a financial student, 60:40% ratio here.


@ Shallow Water; Dear you appeared as a light in darkness for me :angle. Please when ever you get your marks, Please let us know about it.


Thank you! :blink


Regards,

shallowwater Wednesday, November 04, 2009 06:31 PM

@ Bunko.

I would definitely tell you abt my marks in the essay paper. I think headings are not an issue; what matters is the material that you are providing. I used headings in all the questions in the exam; not only in the essay. Its not a story that you keep writing it without headings. I mean first you write an introduction then you come to the body of the essay; who will tell the examiner where the outline ends and the body starts? Even in the body of the essay first suppose i wrote abt the rights of women in islam, then i wrote the duties of women in islam. If headings are not used then everything would get mixed up. Isn't it??

Sabeen Amjad Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:50 AM

Respected Shallow water. Salam... I want to ask dat shud i strictly follow the syllabus outline provided for subjects like everyday science, pak aff., islamiat, and my chosen optionals??? or is extended study required?? i have recently begun preping.... And plzzz i need some booster doses of confidence and encouragement.... as most of the time i feel lazy nd sleepy... :(( Need ur help urgently...


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