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Old Thursday, June 14, 2012
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Those,who have got good viva marks,they 'll say that Interview is all about Presentation skills,gestures,speaking power,attitude...bla bla.And they are ver correct in their saying as they themselves have gone through this phase.But this is also a reality that unlike previous two years,this time viva marks have made many people to stand no where in the Allocations.I know many people who have good communication skills,and are graduate of NUST and LUMS,but to my surprise they have been given low score in viva.I 'll share marks of one candidate,he has got 693 in written while his viva marks are 145.while i saw some marks sheet here at forum where people with 600+ marks were given 190+,or 200+ marks in viva.Another candidate and member of this forum,who had got 160+ or 170+(I don't remember exact score) marks in CE 2010,has been declared fail this year.Did his communication skills,gestures,got vanished within a year??
Secondly,it isn't easy to score 690-700 in written part.How can panel award only 101 marks to a person with 700 marks in written?How can they overlook his hard work,dedication,and the wastage of time and money?This is also a fact that panel hasn't been remained the same throughout the interview phase.Even viva marks vary from centre to centre,for example If a member who is generous in giving marks conducts viva in first centre and for second centre that member gets replaced with another member,who isn't so generous in giving marks.Eventually candidates interviewed in first centre 'll be benefited than the later ones.So ''LUCK'' factor too applies on viva as well.
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i also know these things which you are explaining in a lengthy document.. i have also given my point of view.. now the person who is taking it as "unbiased opinion" can understand it well.. it also has nothing to do with my marks in viva.. there are also some cases which made me think so.. now its up to you how you are taking it

i have already said that its my opinion .. i am not going to reply you in a lengthy document because i am not going to start a hot debate here.. infact i dont need to..
My intention is not about initiating a debate. I understand and respect your point. I also acknowledge, there are many example which show the trend you are speaking about and perhaps FPSC is the only institute which can shed any light on it. I only tried to relate the prevalent practices in private sector with viva in CSS.
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I know a person who scored 711 in written and 140 in interview. When I asked him whether he was satisfied or not, he said he was expecting a bit more i.e around 160 but generally he was okay with it due to mediocre performance in psy and some blunders in viva
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Jo allocate howay ha, talent aur communication skills tho un sy pocho bhai , aur jo reh gaye ha un k bakol zulam tho un k sath howa ha.
truth is in the middle of somewhere, opinions and argument on both side carry weight !

finally LUCK plays greater role. recently i was rejected in an interview even i didn't drop a single question, i was sure about my success, communication was perfect, my interview time was 32 minutes (average time for other five candidates was 10-15 min).
still i didn't know why i was rejected ! it happens.

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my interview time was 32 minutes (average time for other five candidates was 10-15 min).
still i didn't know why i was rejected ! it happens.

so chill
By rejecting you , the panel was not paying old scores.You were not in a personal animosity with them.
It is auspicious to avoid unnecessary confusions by accepting the defeat.
Their revertible decision has firm grounds. Candidates are judged in some predefined parameters of which ability to discuss well is one.
it sounds good that your interview session lasted extra normal in terms of time.
perhaps they were trying to give you more space to give them desired response that you might be delaying till then ......
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bhai Jan !

"my defeat"? this is kind of unpalatable remark to me. if you read my post again , i didn't question the veracity of interviewing panel. what i said is that "i really don't know why i was rejected" and if i , i would not repeat my inconspicuous mistakes in future.
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Written marks have 0% impact on viva marks. Please try to understand why viva is conducted: to check ones personality, temperaments, promptness, alertness, behavior, attitude, gesture, posture, psychological normality/abnormality etc. It does not have to do anything with written marks.
With due respect, it is totally wrong. Written marks, and psychological assessment report, both have a tremendous effect on the interview marks.
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With due respect, it is totally wrong. Written marks, and psychological assessment report, both have a tremendous effect on the interview marks.
Sir You may be right. But it doesn't seem to be the case this year!
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what kind of SMART WORK can we do to get good marks?
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what kind of SMART WORK can we do to get good marks?
Firstly we need to remove our misconceptions regarding smart work esp. in CSS.What is smart work all about? Is this that a person does not need to read books,articles, newspapers,magazines? Is this that one should not work hard? Smart work cannot be done without hard work. You cannot write correct answer without having correct knowledge and for correct knowledge one must go for wide reading. The human minds have specific ideas and these ideas can only be broadened by reading wide variety of reading material.
Smart work specifically means the strategy to do work. Time management,word comprehension and presentation skills include in this strategy nevertheless it cannot be achieved without hard work.Therefore first concentrate on hard work and then smart work.
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