Well fellows see if the examiner has awarded low marks then we cannot do anything about it, but if such a deduction has been done by anyone else then we have the right to challenge it. See most of the failed candidates have been declared fail in eng(p&c) some have been declared failed in it as well as other subjects but a good number has been declared fail in only this. It seems that this is the subject that has been targeted this year. There were rumors that earlier around 1400 candidates were to clear the written but then marks were deducted from english from all candidates and the number was reduced to 800. We want to make sure that no such deduction was was done that deprived many of us.

The argument is that FPSC has no right to make any such deduction in a specific subject after the examiner has awarded the marks.Please all such who have only failed in eng(p&C) in css 2012 be part of this effort.

Question is, how you will prove that FPSC applied such kind of deduction policy or not?

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Hasan shariq brother its really heart throbbing to see what fpsc has done with the marking in precis paper,there is no doubt in it that all this is based on sheer injustice.


i am far junior then u but kindly think over my point!!!!


brother u are intending to go against the establishment division in the court,brother this division is the mother of all other departments and waging a war against it Will not help you out because there is a convention being followed in pakistan that government pays no heed to the directives of court


i am not here to discourage you,but you should also keep the ground situation in your mind.

best of luck!!!

It is simple. As per the rules a candidate or its representative is not allowed to see the answer sheet marked by the examiner. We would as the court to ascertain that we are given the marks that were originally awarded by the examiner. If there is a further deduction by FPSC after the original award of marks by the FPSC then that will be clearly evident from the marks. See lets suppose the examiners had first marked the papers and those marks were sent to FPSC. Later on FPSC decided to deduct 10 marks from the paper of every candidate. Now in this case the original paper will have the marks that the examiner had awarded and not the marks after the deduction. If such a thing is found by the court then we will be able to regain our original marks.

Dear all

see we donot have anything to loose. If at all such a deduction has been done by FPSC then we may get our right, and we may also enter into the race of CSS-2012. Its just a matter of trying

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hasanshariq

I wanna join you in this effort as I am also one of the victims.. please do contact me on my email address ********@gmail.com..

Dear Ambreen

I will Inshallah update you in a day or two about the final shape of things. yesterday i discussed it with a senior laywer and positive response was given. One of our friend Mr.Zahid advocate has also suffered the same way and he is working on the case.

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Brother, I dont want to discourage your cause but i have few points to discuss.
Brother, first of all it sounds ridiculous that u are planning to file a petition against FPSC purely on the basis of rumors.
Second, without any substantial evidence regarding FPSC's marks deduction policy, no court of law in the country would entertain your plea because courts run their business purely on the basis of evidence.
FPSC, in my view, is the most transparent institution of the country and to me you are just trying to malign the institution.
In my view, we should abstain from the policy of "MEETHA MEETHA HUP HUP, KARWA KARWA THUU THUU", as we are habitual of the practice that we never admit our fault and always try to shift the burden of our shortcomings on others.
Regards

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Dear Silent roar

i have no doubts on the working of FPSC, i also believe that the system of induction in CSS is based on merit and no under the table deals or "parchee" works there. But see there are matters that are not all that transparent. We all know that the system lacks standardization.

Also as a free citizen it is my right to remove my doubts in the way as allowed by law. I am not trying to put any mark over the reputation of FPSC. But any system can have some flaws in it, and even the best of systems and entities can at times adopt a policy that is not fair in its outcome even if the intention is not wrong. It is just that as free citizens we have the right to raise our voice and maybe that can bring a positive change in the society.

We are working on shaping the whole argument into a concrete one lets hope for the best

(Just as a food for thought) in 2010 i cleared all the exams except for Islamiyat, and interestingly the same year the majority of candidates were declared fail in the same subject. I have appeared in CSS 2011 and 2012 with almost the same level of preparation for Islamiyat. In 2011 i scored 50 and 54 in 2012. Many others who had failed Isl in 2010 and have appeared agian have scored way better. Now there seems to be some sort of deliberate marks deduction. It may be before it may be after the exam paper checking. we wish to just ascertain if it is so and if so when

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i am amazed at the innocence of certain members who are bending over backwards to prove that the fpsc is the most transparent institute in the country institutes are not honest or dishonest it is the people who work there who make it transparent or otherwise go to Islamabad and ask any knowledgeable bureaucrat about the reputation of the current members of the commission these people all of them were involved in corruption of trillions of rupees throughout their careers if any of the fellow member is working in nab he will tell you that dozens of cases are pending against them in nab due to their influence i know somebody will say that Bhagwan Das is very honest blah blah blah but that same honest man during the last three years approved the promotions of the worst lot of officers which were not even considered for promotion were not even proposed for promotion by the establishment division and i have written numerous times in the past that go and read Aminullah Chaudhrys book the story of civil service of Pakistan who is CSP 1967 and former secretary to pm nawaz sharif to know how inductions are being made in this country if you do not want to believe all this than it is your personal choice one more thing is that to go to the court is the fundmental right of every person and he should not be discouraged from doing so although i am not an aggrieved party yet i support them

I greatly appreciate your initiative and i am also with you. Kindly add me too. I was also failed in English Précis and composition.