How to defend against corruption of Government?

[PAKISTAN Zindabad]

Salam froum members and CSPs.

I am much perplexed over the issue of corruption in government quarters.

I am preparing for CSS-2010 interview.Please apprise me how to tackle questions logically,without compromising objectivity and impartiality.

Corruption in government

Corruption through NRO

NRO as the free waiver to all corrupt politicians,generals,bureaucrats,businessmen

Floods and trust deficit due to corruption?

Issue of transparency?

Media frenzy about alleged involvement of President in corruption?

Hype and blackmailing by media pundits and detractors of economy to derail the democratic process in the country?

Please help me tackle this issue.i will come up with few other questions.

Thank you

[mdanishtaha]

Originally Posted by PAKISTAN Zindabad

Salam froum members and CSPs.

I am much perplexed over the issue of corruption in government quarters.

I am preparing for CSS-2010 interview.Please apprise me how to tackle questions logically,without compromising objectivity and impartiality.

Corruption in government

Corruption through NRO

NRO as the free waiver to all corrupt politicians,generals,bureaucrats,businessmen

Floods and trust deficit due to corruption?

Issue of transparency?

Media frenzy about alleged involvement of President in corruption?

Hype and blackmailing by media pundits and detractors of economy to derail the democratic process in the country?

Please help me tackle this issue.i will come up with few other questions.

Thank you

You should have to make urself inside and outside same.....do the things you promise in the speeces and avoid the things you Islam prohabits .....Then u are successfull man of the world ur both world and after lifes ae save....

Best of Luck

[Sakk]

Originally Posted by PAKISTAN Zindabad

Salam froum members and CSPs.

I am much perplexed over the issue of corruption in government quarters.

I am preparing for CSS-2010 interview.Please apprise me how to tackle questions logically,without compromising objectivity and impartiality.

Corruption in government

Corruption through NRO

NRO as the free waiver to all corrupt politicians,generals,bureaucrats,businessmen

Floods and trust deficit due to corruption?

Issue of transparency?

Media frenzy about alleged involvement of President in corruption?

Hype and blackmailing by media pundits and detractors of economy to derail the democratic process in the country?

Please help me tackle this issue.i will come up with few other questions.

Thank you

I am interested in taking this discussion onwards with you, I think it would be helpful for us if we put it into objective questions like Do you support NRO? If Yes please give your reasoning? Lets take the first topic of *Corruption in Government* and cross swords to derive the maximum out of it and find out a presentable answer.

Topic: Corruption in Government

I personally think that yes corruption is rampant in most government departments and its the dilemma that rate of corruption is increasing with each coming decade. There are uncountable reasons to curb corruption within govt. departments like through legal measures, establishment of anti corruption departments but upto me the basic reason of corruption is that we as an Islamic state have completely abandon our Islamic responsibilities and our society is morally corrupt and approaching its worst end. So if we somehow successfull in producing good muslims our society will be completely free from corruption.

Comments welcome on this topic and then we will tackle another topic for discussion.

[kohatian_3560]

I agree with SAKK, that Islamic fundamentals must be revived in proper shape firstly.Secondly,no place in world is free from corruption menace.So if force of development is exerted in appropriate manner in our country than corruption in any shape cant stop our nation to prosper and progress in right way

[PAKISTAN Zindabad]

@Sakk

I am interested in taking this discussion onwards with you, I think it would be helpful for us if we put it into objective questions like Do you support NRO? If Yes please give your reasoning? Lets take the first topic of *Corruption in Government* and cross swords to derive the maximum out of it and find out a presentable answer.

Topic: Corruption in Government
I personally think that yes corruption is rampant in most government departments and its the dilemma that rate of corruption is increasing with each coming decade. There are uncountable reasons to curb corruption within govt. departments like through legal measures, establishment of anti corruption departments but upto me the basic reason of corruption is that we as an Islamic state have completely abandon our Islamic responsibilities and our society is morally corrupt and approaching its worst end. So if we somehow successfull in producing good muslims our society will be completely free from corruption.
Comments welcome on this topic and then we will tackle another topic for discussion.

i welcome you on this discussion topic.Thank you.
You only mentioned one reason for corruption in government circle that is not adhering to teachings of Islam.
Islam enjoins upon us to give way to austerity,live within our means and procure our earnings through legal and legitimate dealings.Thus it encourages fair play in the economic,social and religious affairs.
But this one reason leaves the argument half-addressed.Why is corruption rampant in government?There are obvious reasons for a measly salary,few incentives and lack of capacity building which foments a cycle of corruption beginning from bottom to top.We can also talk about poverty,culture of corruption that has percolated in the government.

But these are all reason for being corrupt.I am still in search of how to defend government.Are there allegations of corruption against government?
Is there a deliberate campaign to vilify and malign government?
Are there any perceptions of government's corruption,and are they misplaced and miss-founded ?
Personally i know many family members who are corrupt to every bone.But,there sons and daughters are well mannered.The parents observe prayers and perform rituals.IF i ask them about digging into the pockets of other people through illegal means,they say that all is fair in this murky world of government.So to conclude that a person who is corrupt may look like a monster is an entirely ludicrous thinking.The corrupt people are observing many norms.They perform prayers because there social calss may permit them to do so.Remember religion is one aspect of our life.The other aspects are social order,society,traditions etc.I think so that the phenomenon of corruption is far deeper than we think.

Please tell me about the questions.Thank you.

[Sakk]

Originally Posted by PAKISTAN Zindabad

@Sakk


i welcome you on this discussion topic.Thank you.
You only mentioned one reason for corruption in government circle that is not adhering to teachings of Islam.
Islam enjoins upon us to give way to austerity,live within our means and procure our earnings through legal and legitimate dealings.Thus it encourages fair play in the economic,social and religious affairs.
But this one reason leaves the argument half-addressed.Why is corruption rampant in government?There are obvious reasons for a measly salary,few incentives and lack of capacity building which foments a cycle of corruption beginning from bottom to top.We can also talk about poverty,culture of corruption that has percolated in the government.

But these are all reason for being corrupt.I am still in search of how to defend government.Are there allegations of corruption against government?
Is there a deliberate campaign to vilify and malign government?
Are there any perceptions of government's corruption,and are they misplaced and miss-founded ?
Personally i know many family members who are corrupt to every bone.But,there sons and daughters are well mannered.The parents observe prayers and perform rituals.IF i ask them about digging into the pockets of other people through illegal means,they say that all is fair in this murky world of government.So to conclude that a person who is corrupt may look like a monster is an entirely ludicrous thinking.The corrupt people are observing many norms.They perform prayers because there social calss may permit them to do so.Remember religion is one aspect of our life.The other aspects are social order,society,traditions etc.I think so that the phenomenon of corruption is far deeper than we think.

Please tell me about the questions.Thank you.

Its good we are moving on this topic. I personally acknowledge that its the moral depravity which is the root cause of corruption. As you have nicely elaborated above that now due to the rampant culture of corruption, people does not give a second thought and aggrandize through illegal means which they are considering as lawful. What this is showing is that these pool of people are mentally corrupt, their ethical and social values are completely damaged, their upbringing in corrupt environment have made them to think that in this murky world everything is fair, you should make your hands dirty and at the same time offer your religious obligations as well to keep abreast with the social circle. What this projects and predicts? Its clearly a case which I pointed out in my very first post on this topic that the basic line of thinking of people is corrupt, so in order to bring them back on line can only be achieved through character building, no govt. or anti corruption agency can clear corruption from the minds of individuals however they can clear departments. With this departmental corruption will be covered but what about harnessing the rights of individuals and their family members, by passing merit rules to achieve a credible positions. All these are forms of corruptions. I stand of the view that the basic thinking needs a complete overhauling and that is the only way our society can be saved from this menace. The hypocrisy of people and double standard needs to be differentaited on social grounds as corruption cannot be defeated with a hypocrate mind.

I agree with you fully that poverty is aggravating this problem further, sub standard pay scales of officials but where these things justify that one should opt for illegal means. Now recently if you noted govt. has revised pay scales and 50% increase in basic pay has been given which has never been made in past 63 years of pakistan history. So positive steps are coming from govt. side but people are moving with the same mentality to agrrandize more and more.

Yes there are allegations of corruptions, NRO has wiped under the rug thousands of such cases, it is still under SC trial and the problem is that if the leading political party is not following court orders what else can be done. It opens up gate for dictators as SC has no other option but to call ARMY special brigade to take over, this is SC constitutional right. But I wish this does not happen and things sort out easily.

Looking forward to more insight so we can be on same page and learn from each other.