Hello fellow members i hope you are all doing fine and are in the best of your spirits.

I was just thinking about the rise of armed groups in Pakistan.A simple question comes to my mind.Bait-ullah-Mehsud is one of the most wanted men in the world.He is wanted by Pakistan in the assassination of Shaheed Benazir Bhuttoo and by the Nato forces for raids in Afghanistan.Now he has threatned the NWFP government to resign or to face the consequences.Just a few days back he held his second press conference and it was attended by journalists representing all the leading news channels.Now the question is that if he is so badly wanted with all the latest technology the Americans and the Pakistani military has why don;t they just take him out.I mean "Naek Muhammad" and similar others like "Zarqawi" in iraq were killed by satellite guided missiles why don;t they do the same to him. Are the hidden hands protecting him to make a case against the Political system or is it a conspiracy against Pakistan itself.

i just wanted what my fellow members think about this.Your inputs will be appreciated.

Regards

There is no Baitullah Mehsud there is no Usama .... IT is America only ... who is playing this Drama .... Pray to ALLAH to protect us ...

Asslamulaikum,

I hope all are fine, nice and in the best of ur spirits.

Please, don't mark each and every thing blindly, the situation that we are

facing is real. We have always been dictated by Americans, and their Allies.

Let me make it clear that the Tribesmen in Pakistan have been patriotic since

the existence of Pakistan. It can be proved that when the Infidels ( Nato

Forces) , attacked the Holy Land, they were the first to resist and oppose.

These are consequences of the worst policies of Brave General, and his

sycophants that the Holy land ( Pakistan ) on which the islamic Sahriah was

supposed to be promulgated, we rather are practicing the worst fashion of

west. The tribesmen are in need of Islamic shariah and that is not liked by

some muslims even. We started operation in waziristan and swat and the

related territories for the sake of America, it is crystal clear.

Regards.

To be continued...................

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@naqeebullah khan...
hi...
we are all muslims and we all love islam. But did the founding fathers really wanted a Shariat based country in the first place. Here we can refer to one of the statements made by Quaid-e-Azam that Pakistan is not going to be state run by the clerics with a divine mission.There is no doubt that the tribal people have been patriotic but to take up arms in order to promulgate islam is wrong. This way they are playing in the hands of anti-Pakistan forces and helping them damage Pakistan. I mean what image of Pakistan are they projecting in the world....by cutting of the hands and limbs of people!!!!! This truly is barbaric..... i hope some sense prevails and these people calm down and do not play in the hand of some fanatics who are damaging islam as well as Pakistan.

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@Mumtaz Hayat Maneka

Have you ever seen Baitullah Mehsud?
Has he appeared publicly on TV or any other media?
Are you sure he is a tribal and not some dummy playing for the you-know-who and conspirating against Pakistan?

Are you sure what media is projecting is undoubtedly right?
Do you believe in what media shows you?
Have you ever heard Media Hegemony or playing up and playing down certian elements by the media???

And are you sure Is that Biatullah Mehsud is a real Mehsud and no one else????

im damn sure you will not be sure about any of this!!

Brother, what i want to say is that, as you yourself considerd in your first post that if he is that much wanted by all the Right People, then why is allowed to hold press conferences ritght in front of every one?

and have you ever thought that why no one has ever seen Baitullah???
The answer is clear..that one he is finished with his job, he will roam freely, remove his beard and will be among us, talking with us, and only we would not know that he IS the same man!

im damn sure he is not a Muslim less possible that he is a tribal and Mehsud!!!

PEACE

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@anno

This is exactly what is am conveying here dear. I mean i think its all made up by god knows who. Bait-ullah-Mehsud is not the problem but this whole phenomenon.But the question is that why the concerned quarters are quite on this.Why don't people talk about this on tv. All they are concerned is whether the Armed action should continue or not. But no one seems preturbeb about the aunthenticity of all this "talibanisation".

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Asslamulaikum,

Earlier I was talking about the operations started in Waziristan, swat and

related territories for the sake and by the dictation of America.

Dear brothers, Let me clear the same Issue in the light of Islam................

America has attacked Afghanistan without any kind of solid proof that they

were indulged in the incident of 9/11, ( THE STUDENTS OF POLITICAL SCIENCE

KNOW IT VERY WELL THAT WHILE READING THE ISLAMIC STATE, THERE IS

NO ANY CONFINEMENT IN IT) if jihad is obligatory on a muslim living in

Afghanistan same is the case with every muslim, no matter, where he resides

in the world. It means that Jihad is going on in Afghanistan, so it is obligatory

on a muslim living in pakistan, Iraq, palestine, america, britian, spain, south

Africa, even every where in the world.

So the real muslims are making it clearly with out any kind of confusion, but

we even not having the basic concept of Islam talk in this issue that Taliban

are beheading the non-muslims or spies, it is not allowed, Shame on such

people............................................ ...............................

Do you people know that Muslims should take " JIZYA/JUZYA" from non-

muslims because they reside in this world. They don't have the right to live

in this world untill they testify the oneness of Allah, if not then pay jizya to

muslims for this.

To be continued.......................................

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No one has seen him except this picture which you will find on several website while browsing







Bitullah Mehsud, the 34-year-old pro-Taleban militant commander, fits the part of the Pakistani tribal guerrilla leader to the hilt.

But there is something extra about him as well.

The few journalists who have met him speak of his earnest desire to support his actions by his interpretation of Islamic ideals.

The emphasis here is on jihad (holy war) against foreign occupying forces in Afghanistan and the establishment of an Islamic state.

These include the use of suicide bombers and cross-border attacks on international forces based there.

There is also his aversion to publicity in general, and to photography in particular.

“He does not allow his picture to be taken,” says a journalist who has met the commander.

It is an aversion he shares with Taleban supreme commander Mullah Omar, with whom he is said to have a “good relationship”.

Baitullah Mehsud, as his name suggests, belongs to the Mehsud tribe in Pakistan’s troubled South Waziristan region.

The area is now said to be a safe haven for al-Qaeda and the Taleban.

In this regard, Baitullah Mehsud is said to have played a major role, especially in providing a sanctuary for fighters to operate in Afghanistan.

Commander Mehsud makes no bones about this, and says it is in fact the duty of every Muslim to wage jihad against “the infidel forces of America and Britain”.

The militant leader on several occasions has openly admitted to crossing the border to fight foreign troops.

Since 9/11 he has grown in strength and stature, making him the most important pro-Taleban militant commander in the Waziristan region.

He is said to operate under a legendary Afghan Taleban commander, Jalaluddin Haqqani.

Jalaluddin Haqqani is believed to have helped Osama Bin Laden escape US bombing in Afghanistan’s Tora Bora mountains in early 2002.

Baitullah Mehsud himself is said to command about 20,000 pro-Taleban militants.

A majority of these belong to the Mehsud tribe.

The militant commander is said to be the man who has masterminded most of the recent suicide attacks in the country.

While he has admitted to targeting military personnel in reprisal attacks, he denied attacking any political figures.


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Dear brother Khan

its our bad luck we have left our Islamic Studies other we have solution of all the problem in Islam

about Jizya i have asked so many my friends who are in Madris but most of them dont have sound knowledge about it

here is some info about

Jizya


In states ruled by Islamic law, jizya or jizyah (Arabic: جزْية; Ottoman Turkish: cizye) is a per capita tax imposed on able bodied non-Muslim men of military age. The tax is not supposed to be levied on slaves, women, children, monks, the old, the sick, hermits and the poor, though these provisions were abandoned in later periods of Muslim history. Non-Muslim citizens who pay the tax are permitted to practice their faith and to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy as well as being entitled to Muslim protection from outside aggression and being exempted from military service amongst numerous other exemptions to levies upon Muslim citizens.

Asslamulaikum,

Dear Faraz,

I agree to you on ur words of Jizya or Juzya, It is the same, there is no need

for me to explain it more. Let me continue my words that Jihad, it is

compulsory for every one to make it no matter where he resides in this world.

It is necessary and even obligatory on every muslim to oppose the oppression

of the enemies of Islam, and for the imposition and Highness of the Islamic

Shariah and for this even if time reahces to sacrifice his family, kith and kins

and even one's ownself.

If we consider the Islam;four walls of a room, Jihad is the Roof of the same

room, if the room is undone it would be difficult to reside in this room, same is

the case with Islam. If we omit the word Jihad from Islam then it is impossible

to impose even a sunnah on the people not to talk of Farz.........

Regards.

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Dear Khan,

It was info which shared it was not critics on you .take it in constructive way

Thank you
Best regards,