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well i think that though these politicians are a cursed lot but the people of Pakistan follow some of them blindly........ n also not all politicians are bad though most of them are ...... in our country we are facing the problem of the politics of families ... so dont worry if zardari sab goes Bilawal would come n if Nawaz n Shahbaz sharif go Hamza shahbaz will be coming ....and so on ...... these politicians are not going to spare us so we Should pray that Almighty guide them to the correct path ie the (Sirat e Mustaqeem )...................
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Asif Zardari as Corrupt President of Pakistan
BY PETER GILL

Allegedly one of Pakistan’s most corrupt politicians, Asif Ali Zardari has been elected president by the Pakistani parliament and provincial assemblies.
All remaining corruption charges against him were dropped in the months leading up to his election. What follows is a brief history of the criminal and corruption charges which have linked him with fraud, money-laundering, receiving bribes, and even murder.

1990
Arrested on charges of blackmail. Accused of attaching a bomb to a Pakistani businessman, forcing him to withdraw money from his bank account. Charges dropped in 1993 when wife Benazir BhuttoBenazir Bhutto becomes Prime Minister for the second time. Serves as Minister for the Environment from 1993-1996.

1993
Murtaza Bhutto, brother of Benazir, confronts Zardari over bringing the Pakistan People’s Party into disrepute over corrupt activities. Meeting ends acrimoniously with Murtaza Bhutto famously shaving off half of Zardari’s moustache. It is widely believed that Zardari used police connections to have Murtaza Bhutto assassinated in 1996.

1995
Opens Citibank account which Swiss investigators allege passed some USD 40m in illegal payoffs from foreign companies doing business in Pakistan. Includes a one-time payoff of USD 10m from a West Asia gold bullion dealer in return for a monopoly on Pakistan gold imports.

1997
Zardari and Bhutto allegedly receive USD 2m in kickbacks relating to the purchase of 8,000 Polish tractors as part of the Awami Tractor Scheme.

1997-2004
Imprisoned in Pakistan on corruption charges and in connection with the murder of Judge Nizam Ahmed in 1996. Granted bail in November 2004 but was re-arrested on 21 December 2004 after failing to attend a hearing in the Nizam Ahmed case. Zardari alleges that he was tortured during his seven-year confinement - charges backed by human rights groups.

1998
Swiss Government gives Pakistan government documents relating to corruption allegations against Zardari and wife, Benazir Bhutto involving USD 13.7m in laundered money.
French authorities reveal that Zardari proposed to give Dassault Aviation exclusive rights to replace Pakistani airforce fighter jets in return for a 5% commission.

1998-1999
Enquiry conducted by Pakistan’s Public Accounts Committee into two counts of fraud worth nearly USD 3.3m over the purchase of helicopters. The case referred to the National Accountability Bureau in 2000-02 but no action was taken.

August 2003
Swiss magistrates find Zardari and Bhutto guilty of money laundering, sentencing them to six-month suspended jail terms, a fine of $50,000 and ordering them to pay USD 11m to the Pakistani government.

August 2004
Admitted to owning a 365-acre estate in England, including a 20-room mansion, which Pakistani authorities allege was bought with the proceeds of corruption.

October 2006
Application to halt corruption proceedings thrown out by Pakistan court. Gained the nickname “Mr. Ten-percent” after the cut he allegedly received from a series of corrupt business deals.

March 2008
Five different corruption cases against Zardari dropped by judges appointed by President Pervez MusharrafPresident Pervez Musharraf. Charges in connection with the murder of Justice Nizam Ahmed were also dropped.

August 2008
All cases against Zardari in Swiss courts dropped at the request of Pakistani authorities. USD 60m in allegedly laundered money restored. Zardari denies the money is his.

6 September 2008
Zardari elected President of Pakistan, winning 479 from 702 votes from lawmakers in both houses of parliament and four state assemblies.
Source : http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...kistan-corrupt
ZARDARI’S LOCAL ASSETS:

1. Plot no. 121, Phase VIII, DHA Karachi.
2. Agricultural land situated in Deh Dali Wadi, Taluka, Tando Allah Yar.
3. Agricultural property located in Deh Tahooki Taluka, District Hyderabad measuring 65.15 acres.
4. Agricultural land falling in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 827.14 acres
5.Agricultural land situated in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 293.18 acres
6 Residential plot No 3 (Now House) Block No B-I, City Survey No 2268 Ward-A Nawabshah
7.Huma Heights (Asif Apartments) 133, Depot Lines, Commissariat Road, Karachi
8.Trade Tower Building 3/CL/V Abdullah Haroon Road, Karachi
9.House No 8, St 9, F-8/2, Islamabad
10.Agricultural land in Deh 42 Dad Taluka/ District Nawabshah
11.Agricultural land in Deh 51 Dad Taluka Distt Nawabshah
12 Plot No 3 & 4 Sikni (residential) Near Housing Society Ltd. Nawabshah
13. CafT Sheraz (C.S No.. 2231/2 & 2231/3) Nawabshah
14 Agricultural land in Deh 23-Deh Taluka & District Nawabshah
15.Agricultural property in Deh 72-A, Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
16.Agricultural land in Deh 76-Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
17.Plot No. A/136 Survey No 2346 Ward A Government Employee’s Cooperative Housing Society Ltd, Nawabshah
18.Agricultural land in Deh Jaryoon Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
19. Agricultural land in Deh Aroro Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
20. Agricultural land in Deh Nondani Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
21. Agricultural land in Deh Lotko Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
22. Agricultural land in Deh Jhol Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
23. Agricultural land in Deh Kandari Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
24.Agricultural land in Deh Deghi Taluka Tando Mohammad Khan
25.Agricultural land in Deh Rahooki Taluka, Hyderabad
26 Property in Deh Charo Taluka, Badin
27.Agricultural property in Deh Dali Wadi Taluka, Hyderabad
28. Five acres prime land allotted by DG KDA in 1995/96
29. 4,000 kanals on Simli Dam
30. 80 acres of land at Hawkes Bay
31.13 acres of land at Maj Gulradi (KPT Land)
32.One acre plot, GCI, Clifton
33.One acre of land, State Life (International Center, Sadar)
34. FEBCs worth Rs. 4 million

SHARES IN SUGAR MILLS INCLUDE:

1. Sakrand Sugar Mills Nawabshah
2. Ansari Sugar
3.Mills Hyderabad
4. Mirza Sugar Mills Badin
5. Pangrio Sugar Mills Thatta
6. Bachani Sugar Mills Sanghar

FRONT COMPANIES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES:

1.Bomer Fiannce Inc, British Virgin Islands
2.Mariston Securities Inc, British Virgin Islands
3.Marleton Business S A, British Virgin Islands
4.Capricorn Trading S A, British Virgin Islands
5.Fagarita Consulting INc, British Virgin Islands
6.Marvil Associated Inc, British Virgin Islands
7.Pawnbury Finance Ltd, British Virgin Islands
8.Oxton Trading Limited, British Virgin Islands
9.Brinslen Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
10.Chimitex Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
11.Elkins Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
12.Minister Invest Ltd, British Virgin Islands
13.Silvernut Investment Inc, British Virgin Islands
14.Tacolen Investment Ltd, British Virgin Islands
15.Marlcrdon Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
16.Dustan Trading Inc, British Virgin Islands
17.Reconstruction and Development Finance Inc, British Virgin Islands
18 Nassam Alexander Inc
19.Westminster Securities Inc.
20.Laptworth Investment Inc 202, Saint Martin Drive, West Jacksonville
21. Intra Foods Inc. 3376, Lomrel Grove, Jacksonville, Florida
22. Dynatel Trading Co, Florida
23. A..S Realty Inc. Palm Beach Gardens Florida
24.Bon Voyage Travel Consultancy Inc, Florida

ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN UK:
1. 355 acre Rockwood Estate, Surrey (Now stands admitted)
2. Flat 6, 11 Queensgate Terrace, London SW7
3. 26 Palace Mansions, Hammersmith Road, London W14
4. 27 Pont Street, London, SW1
5. 20 Wilton Crescent, London SW1
6.23 Lord Chancellor Walk, Coombe Hill, Kingston, Surrey
7. The Mansion, Warren Lane, West Hampstead, London
8. A flat at Queensgate Terrace, London
9. Houses at Hammersmith Road, Wilton Crescent, Kingston and in Hampstead.

ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN BELGIUM:

1. 12-3 Boulevard De-Nieuport, 1000, Brussels, (Building containing 4 shops and 2 large apartments)
2.Chausee De-Mons, 1670, Brussels

ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN FRANCE:

1.La Manoir De La Reine Blanche and property in Cannes

ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN USA — in the name of Asif Zardari and managed by Shimmy Qureshi:
1. Stud farm in Texas
2. Wellington Club East, West Palm Beach
3. 12165 West Forest Hills, Florida
4. Escue Farm 13,524 India Mound, West Palm Beach
5. 3,220 Santa Barbara Drive, Wellington Florida
6.13,254 Polo Club Road, West Palm Beach Florida
7.3,000 North Ocean Drive, Singer Islands, Florida
8. 525 South Flager Driver, West Palm Beach, Florida
9. Holiday Inn Houston Owned by Asif Ali Zardari, Iqbal Memon and Sadar-ud-Din Hashwani

ZARDARI’S BANK ACCOUNTS IN FOREIGN COMPANIES:

1.Union Bank of Switzerland (Account No. 552.343, 257.556.60Q, 433.142.60V, 216.393.60T)
2.Citibank Private Limited (SWZ) (Account No. 342034)
3. Citibank N A Dubai (Account No. 818097)
4. Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62290209)
5. Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62274400)
6. Banque Centrade Ormard Burrus S A
7. Banque Pache S A
8. Banque Pictet & Cie
9. Banque La Henin, Paris (Account No. 00101953552)
10. Bank Natinede Paris in Geneva (Account NO.. 563.726.9)
11. Swiss Bank Corporation
12. Chase Manhattan Bank Switzerland
13. American Express Bank Switzerland
14. Societe De Banque Swissee
15. Barclays Bank (Knightsbridge Branch) (Account No. 90991473)
16.Barclays Bank, Kingston and Chelsea Branch, (Sort Code 20-47-34135)
17. National Westminster Bank, Alwych Branch (Account No. 9683230)
18. Habib Bank (Pall Mall Branch).
19. National Westminster Bank, Barking Branch, (Account No. 28558999).
20. Habib Bank AG, Moorgate, London EC2
21. National Westminster Bank, Edgware Road, London
22. Banque Financiei E Dela Citee, Credit Suisse
23. Habib Bank AG Zurich, Switzerland
24. Pictet Et Cie, Geneva
25. Credit Agricole, Paris
26. Credit Agridolf, Branch 11, Place Brevier, 76440, Forges Les Faux
27. Credit Agricole, Branch Haute – Normandie, 76230, Boise Chillaum


now one politician at highest seat can do so much corruption. if we account for all politicians,then death of all of them will be a real loss to Pakistan. we can never recover from them if they are dead.their heirs will come and carry on. no way,they loot and they go without returning this country's wealth not acceptable.

we need to select those people who are sincere to Pakistan and work for the progress of this nation
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I totally agree with you..
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Politics in our part of the world have been dominated by a couple of Dynasties so even if the present lot dies their siblings will take over from them so I don't believe that we'll be able to see any real change.
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Salam dear members,

I was thinking over the sad demise of Polish president and passengers.It is an unbearable grief.I wonder how will our nation react if the entire Political race dies.Suppose there is an explosion in the NA and PA assemblies.i know the presence and absence of these goons makes no difference.But how would the nation react?

I personally think that the nation will not bother because the politicians don't care for it.

Please give your valuable input.

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aoa very inreseting thing to think!
well our nation wont react you are right,to me it wont react at once....our nation remains in deep slumber till some external factors make us realise what has just happend to us.in the scenario which you have drawn we'd have two such external sources i.e Media & the World
the reason why i mentioned media as an outsider is because some how it has acquired the status of being indifferent n orienting.and its becoming a wider spread practice here that people are looking towards media to help,if not exclusively,to farm thier opinions(for what else our nation as a whole refer to for knowledge or guidence,its niether books nor education).
And The Reason Why We'd React This Way Is:
it is said
"Most of the people ignore history because most of the history ignores most of the people"
so is tha case of Pakistan's politics as well as politicians who've always been oblivious to the existence of thier subjects n their interests...
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It is indeed sad that we would be celebrating the death of our politicians. It really is pathetic to suppose such a situation. We never look at ourselves and wish death for all.
For deciding worth of our leaders we need any published thing to claim as gospel truth. Every publish word is taken as true to the extent that even we don't how to talk about the symbol of our federation.
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