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thnx for the reply. i enjoyed your detailed answer.

1) I agree with you that kalpars killed his son and his response was quite natural.
but the price was much more than one murder. hundreds of families had to leave dera bugti.
2)the nuke test is a defence issue,a top secret mission. even secretary establishment was unaware of those. so, we cannot use exceptional cases as any regular evidence. if akbar bugti was restricted to do any good for his people, still there were ways to eradicate poverty; construction of schools, colleges, inviting investors etc. moreover, when previous federal govt. was going to trigger the developmental revolution, why he was reluctant and started disputing over trifles?
3)thnx again for agreeing at the condemnation of brahamdagh bughti.

4)current share of natural resources is 33%. and the previous was more than 50%. In blauchistan package, previous royalty return is assured already.
http://www.pildat.org/publications/p...s%20101209.pdf

It should be implemented practically.
5)your query pertaining the deposition of mega projects in a few blouch areas?
Unfortunately this is a trauma for all of our nation that only a few big cities in each province are chosen for the development.and the rest of other areas are neglected. If this is happening in blauchistan , its not exceptional case. so, don,t worry!
The development in Gwadar and Pasni is owing to its strategic significance.
but what about makran coastal highway? its not confined only to a few areas.
Every place from where it passes would be developed owing to the value of property and worth of this strategic road.
what about the new canal system>(i don,t remember its name)
...zhob dam? etc etc........
electricity is not merely a problem of blauch areas, but the whole country. do you know we in s.punjab faced 15 to 20 hrs loadshedding. although we(s.punjab) provide the whole country with electricity through 7 power stations.
we are taken for granted by the federation and still we never raised the slogan of rebillion. our hearts r broad. contrast!
As far as the absence of pure water and gas in Dera bugti is concerned, its not the federal pm to look after the concrete issues, but the local mna,mpa,s.
you people cast your votes again and again for the same politicians.
By god!if any minister of blauchistan or mna of dera bugti had resigned or had called for a hunger strike before parliament,,,,the results would have been different.our local mpa did that for flood relief support.
your mna,s criticize govt. while in blauchistan, and when they enter the parliamentarian lodges in Islamabad, they forget their people.
Soooooooooo,who is responsible for the miseries regarding street lights, electricity shortage or absence of gas connections??

6)If nasirabad district has the fullest capacity to feed others, then why blauchistan imports food commodities from khyber pakhtoonkhaw,sindh and punjab?
potential of fertility is in most of the areas of our country except the deserts of blouchistan and thal and thar. But potential is other thing and the practical yield from the potential is something else.

7) Habib Jalib was a man of peace and was busy in reconciliation between BLA and government. he definitely was a rare asset of the establishment and peace keepers.
his efforts had been extremely fruitful for the government. So how could the agencies do that?
He might have been killed by those elements who don,t like the reconciliation and peace in the province. His death can ignite the fury among peaceful political organizations in blauchistan. So its rediculous to blame the agencies.

then who did tha? I personally believe that no true pakistani is happy at the departure of habib jalib. Infact, this has chilled the enemies of pakistan.
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i just want to tell my fellow members from balochistan that they are not alone in this suffering we as the young generation of this country share with them their grief. if baloch are killed for voicing for their rights ppl in lahore hav to kill themselves to get rid of life that is unbearable ppl in pakistan are suffering for the crimes they didn't commit. except for the ruling class the whole nation is burdened with the task of surviving every minute of life. sorry for wat is happening to u and sorry for wat all of us are facing.
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2)the nuke test is a defence issue,a top secret mission. even secretary establishment was unaware of those. so, we cannot use exceptional cases as any regular evidence. if akbar bugti was restricted to do any good for his people, still there were ways to eradicate poverty; construction of schools, colleges, inviting investors etc. moreover, when previous federal govt. was going to trigger the developmental revolution, why he was reluctant and started disputing over trifles?
well..is not kalabagh dam a project that could help the country in all spheres including economy and defense?if yes,then why the government can not initiate the same without taking the shareholders on board?why such an important project is being avoided without trespassing the local interests?As for as the fight between nawab sahab and government of pakistan is concerned that was over the royalty, which was promised by the government but not paid .
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4)current share of natural resources is 33%. and the previous was more than 50%. In blauchistan package, previous royalty return is assured already.
i admit...but what about 500 billion rupees, which was to be paid by federal government in terms of royalties to the provincial government?we are not begging for money rather demanding our toiled compensation and natural reward.As for as the so called NFC award is concerned,it has no worth a candle for its schedule of payment of the said amount in installments in 12 years.
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5)your query pertaining the deposition of mega projects in a few blouch areas?
Unfortunately this is a trauma for all of our nation that only a few big cities in each province are chosen for the development.and the rest of other areas are neglected. If this is happening in blauchistan , its not exceptional case. so, don,t worry!
we have only one big city that is quetta,rest of the province consists of small cities and villages.There is no blinking the fact that in other provinces development has been hauled with rapid approach than balochistan.
Should a younger offspring be neglected by his father owing to its physical status and a elder be catered owing to its physical goodness?is not it a transparent discrimination..same is the case here,small cities have been neglected since long.
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The development in Gwadar and Pasni is owing to its strategic significance.
but what about makran coastal highway? its not confined only to a few areas.
Every place from where it passes would be developed owing to the value of property and worth of this strategic road.
it may have strategic significance but it has no worth to transform thistles into blossoms.
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electricity is not merely a problem of blauch areas, but the whole country. do you know we in s.punjab faced 15 to 20 hrs loadshedding. although we(s.punjab) provide the whole country with electricity through 7 power stations.
dear bro,i m not talking about load shedding,i am saying that in most of the areas electricity does not exist.

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By god!if any minister of blauchistan or mna of dera bugti had resigned or had called for a hunger strike before parliament,,,,the results would have been different.our local mpa did that for flood relief support.
your mna,s criticize govt. while in blauchistan, and when they enter the parliamentarian lodges in Islamabad, they forget their people.
Soooooooooo,who is responsible for the miseries regarding street lights, electricity shortage or absence of gas connections??
Nawab sahab vehemently raised his voice for this cause,which led him towards his eternal end.
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6)If nasirabad district has the fullest capacity to feed others, then why blauchistan imports food commodities from khyber pakhtoonkhaw,sindh and punjab?
potential of fertility is in most of the areas of our country except the deserts of blouchistan and thal and thar. But potential is other thing and the practical yield from the potential is something else.
if Punjab abundantly produces most edible wheat ,why then government of punjab imports the same from australia?same is the case here....
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7) Habib Jalib was a man of peace and was busy in reconciliation between BLA and government. he definitely was a rare asset of the establishment and peace keepers.
his efforts had been extremely fruitful for the government. So how could the agencies do that?
He might have been killed by those elements who don,t like the reconciliation and peace in the province. His death can ignite the fury among peaceful political organizations in blauchistan. So its rediculous to blame the agencies.
neither he was busy in reconciliation between any organization and government nor he has ever been a puppet of establishment.He was a man of principles and a product of a conscious struggle.
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I think some foreign elements want to create instability in Pakistan. There is strong need of unity, endurance, fraternity and patriotic approach...............
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kala bagh dam a project that could help the country in all spheres including economy and defense?if yes,then why the government can not initiate the same without taking the shareholders on board?why such an important project is being avoided without trespassing the local interests?As for as the fight between nawab sahab and government of pakistan is concerned that was over the royalty, which was promised by the government but not paid .
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bro you have mis understood my point. i was not emphasizing on defence or non defence but on "mission secret" of nuke tests. and kala bagh is an open issue.no need to hide it from anyone. but nuke test was a top secret mission. okkkkk

what about 500 billion rupees, which was to be paid by federal government in terms of royalties to the provincial government?we are not begging for money rather demanding our toiled compensation and natural reward.As for as the so called NFC award is concerned,it has no worth a candle for its schedule of payment of the said amount in installments in 12 years.
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its not 500 billion rupees but 800 bn rupees dear.and federal govt. is abide by blauchistan package to return the amount within specific period. nfc is not the end but a beginning of a new trend. don,t over or underestimate it please!
instead we should appreciate this beginning.

... only one big city that is quetta,rest of the province consists of small cities and villages.There is no blinking the fact that in other provinces development has been hauled with rapid approach than balochistan.
Should a younger offspring be neglected by his father owing to its physical status and a elder be catered owing to its physical goodness?is not it a transparent discrimination..same is the case here,small cities have been neglected since long.
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i agree that the pace of development should be rapid. but, think!!howz its possible while local lords don,t allow this to happen.whatever the reasons may be...
ha coastal highway has strategic significance but it has no worth to transform thistles into blossoms.
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coastal highway has the same significance for blauchistan as for any pivotal road of any strategically important landscape.look at the lhr- islamabad motorway. a rapid development can be observed including the hotel and industrial activity on both sides of it.by makran coastal highway,rural and out of range areas of makran will be interconnected with each other and urbanization of desert will start.

Nawab sahab vehemently raised his voice for this cause,which led him towards his eternal end.
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nawab sahab was attacked because he preffered to launch his protest through guns and rockets.how a state can allow anyone to challenge its writ? lal mosque is a crystal clear example.the motto of them might be right but the way they proceeded with was wrong.although there is a contrast b/w nawab shab and lal mosque but the point is that the writ of pak was challenged.

If Punjab abundantly produces most edible wheat ,why then government of punjab imports the same from australia?same is the case here....
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punjab abundently yields wheat but since it has been a supplier to other provinces so, it imports wheat from abroad. how can you compare both scenarios. if nasirabad is sufficient enough to meed food requirements of 6.5 million people of blauchistan, then why blauchistan doesn,t prefer its own district to meet the needs. why the province imports food commodities from other provinces.
moreover the story about nasirabad,s capacity to meed 6.5 million,s food requirements seems to be the exaggerated one. i will confirm that .

neither he was busy in reconciliation between any organization and government nor he has ever been a puppet of establishment.He was a man of principles and a product of a conscious struggle.
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designs of neocolonialism to balkanize the two dominating republics of muslim world(iran and pak) ,,,,who have been a thread to israel ,india and all those who want to see a weak "UMMAH"?
how GOD can bless the designs to demolish muslim world by such as "conscious" struggle on bases of racism!
any idea to destablize pakistan and iran is a blasphimy as both are the only safeguard of muslim world with a few flaws in their policies.
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bro you have mis understood my point. i was not emphasizing on defence or non defence but on "mission secret" of nuke tests. and kala bagh is an open issue.no need to hide it from anyone. but nuke test was a top secret mission. okkkkk
i have not misunderstood my dear.So secret was the mission prior to which clinton called Mr.Sharif and offered him rewards for not doing so.Where went its top secrecy?
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its not 500 billion rupees but 800 bn rupees dear.and federal govt. is abide by blauchistan package to return the amount within specific period. nfc is not the end but a beginning of a new trend. don,t over or underestimate it please!
instead we should appreciate this beginning.
it has no worth in front of grievances that we have.It is not more than distant promises and optical illusions.At the risk of offending you let me say that such initiatives can not pacify the wrath and ember of baloch.Genuine problems should have given a master touch so that problems could be smoothly drafted.
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coastal highway has the same significance for blauchistan as for any pivotal road of any strategically important landscape.look at the lhr- islamabad motorway. a rapid development can be observed including the hotel and industrial activity on both sides of it.by makran coastal highway,rural and out of range areas of makran will be interconnected with each other and urbanization of desert will start.
My dear,Since june 6 when Gwadar was bogged down by cyclone,nothing commendable has been done by provincial and federal government.Still people are sighing for assistance which i behold shall never be given to them,coz we are dialectically materialists rather than true philanthropists.
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nawab sahab was attacked because he preffered to launch his protest through guns and rockets.how a state can allow anyone to challenge its writ? lal mosque is a crystal clear example.the motto of them might be right but the way they proceeded with was wrong.although there is a contrast b/w nawab shab and lal mosque but the point is that the writ of pak was challenged.
let me add your information that after being convinced by mushaid and shujahat nawab sahab agreed upon to leave for islamabad in order to initiate table talk over the said issue,he himself came till airport,where he waited and left back for home because of unknown reasons.Viewed so,there are no reasons we should say that Nawab sahab was not interested in negotiations.It is not the time to blame others,but to pore over mishaps that led the entire country towards uncertainty.
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punjab abundently yields wheat but since it has been a supplier to other provinces so, it imports wheat from abroad. how can you compare both scenarios. if nasirabad is sufficient enough to meed food requirements of 6.5 million people of blauchistan, then why blauchistan doesn,t prefer its own district to meet the needs. why the province imports food commodities from other provinces.
moreover the story about nasirabad,s capacity to meed 6.5 million,s food requirements seems to be the exaggerated one. i will confirm that .
if you are meeting the needs of other provinces then we should take pride that we are providing the same to afghanistan.
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conscious struggle of what?--- To implement practically the nefarious
designs of neocolonialism to balkanize the two dominating republics of muslim world(iran and pak) ,,,,who have been a thread to israel ,india and all those who want to see a weak "UMMAH"?
how GOD can bless the designs to demolish muslim world by such as "conscious" struggle on bases of racism!
any idea to destablize pakistan and iran is a blasphimy as both are the only safeguard of muslim world with a few flaws in their policies.
sorry that u did not grasp the real meaning of what i said.Conscious effort does not mean regional isolation and alienation,it means an effort based on intrinsic feeling for one's downtrodden people.To become an UMMAH is mere a flight of imagination ,at presence we should strive for a united nation.
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BNP leader Habib Jalib’s killers arrested


QUETTA: The police have arrested two killers accused for the murder of BNP leader, Habib Jalib, SAMAA reported Friday.The IG of Baluchistan, Malik Muhammad Iqbal, has announced during a press conference in Quetta, that two accused who were involved in the murder of BNP Secretary General Habib Jalib, have been taken into custody.

Malik Iqbal revealed that the murder of Habib Jalib was based on personal animosity between the deceased BNP leader and arrested culprits.“During investigations, a person namely Ajaz was arrested on suspicion and later on he admitted the murder of Habib Jalib,” the IG Baluchistan added. SAMAA

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very sad news....
this independence day is full of sorrows. Allah save our country.
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thnx GOD!

the truth has been revealed upon the blouchis who were suspecting the
establishment.

usually ,when a popular leader is killed,everyone tries to find a popular
killer to accuse, whether he is killed by his own relative or personal foe,
people love to create the fantacies.

habib jalib was neither killed by establishment nor by the punjab, but by his personal rivals.
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