Civilization by Jennifer Reeser
Send your army home to their wives and children.
It is late. Your soldiers are burdened, thirsty.
Lock the doors, the windows, and here in darkness
lie down beside me.

Speak of anything we possess in common:
ground or law or sense. Only speak it softly.
Spiders crawl the crevices. Violent voices
ruin their balance,

and they’ll fall – intuit – upon our faces,
where I fear them most. But you’ve heard this terror,
and my midnight phobias always move you –
cause to remain here.

Leave a light still burning, in some far wall sconce.
Tuck one rebel end of the flat sheet under.
Turn away, self-ruled, to remind me even
Sappho was mortal,

even Shakespeare, writing of cups and spiders
in his winter’s tale. Send your tin men home, then.
Once I asked your reason to stay. You said,
“Because you’re still with me.”

I supose we should discuss things relevant to our studies...I am sorry if I have offended you. However i tried to keep the scope of discussion relevant to the curricula of CSS syllabus. I will watch my mouth next time. Sorry.

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What is this?

I agree Withe Invincible. This is a forum where you can discuss such topics..

@omarqadir

Its OK friend. Your are new to this Forum hence you too are right.

About your question : how to start a thread........simply go to the section of you choice, " start a thread" is written at the top . click it and post your comments.

I hope its clear now.

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"Man shall have nothing but what he strives for". (Al-Quran. Al-Najm:39).


"""""SHIKAARI BUNNA SHIKAAR BUNNAY SE BEHTTAR HAI"""""""

a few points to ponder:

1]"civilized" is a comparative sense

2]a few events cannot be posed as the whole mindset of society.
its true that a few killed the boys but many like us are regretting and condoling. we are also pakistanis

3]floods have brought carnage and millions suffered. but millions are rescuing and aiding them

4]we have the following very strong institutions:
-----combined family
-----one marriage culture
-----mosque as a social centre
-----highest rate of charity in the world.(what we did during earthquake and flood?).appreciable.
5] there can be a few hundred Mukhtaran maies, but millions of women are respected by us at homes as well as in the society.

6] no. of rapes are less than any western "civilized" nation

7] no. of abortions are less than any western nation

8] our international role is not less significant as:

-----catagorically condemned and fought against terrorism at state
level.
and majority of pakistanis hate the extremists.
-----almost all of uno,s peacekeeping missions are carried through pak army,s support
-----we have defeated many civilized nations in sports
-----we are not involved in mass killing and genocides like india, america and israel.
-----during freedom flotela crisis, we showed our civilized behaviour.
-----it is not we who took captive dr.aafia siddiqui. even our protest is civilized.
9] was winston churchill civillized when he killed 50000 iraqis in 1st wwar
by gas?
was millasovic a civilized person?
10]start from the very beginning:

a)jinnah..............did he kill anyone to create a country?
without killing, he created pakistan...
Result: he was civilized
b)iqbal(our national poet):has he ever mentiond in his writings to kill anyone?
result:he was civilized
c] look at national antham of india;

bande matram,
brother, will the day come when we will burn mosques,
and,,,will built the temples of radha madhay at the places.
.........
.........etc....
-----------------------nowww, read our national antham. it contains no word of bigotry and malaise.
Result;we are civilized
11] look at our civil society movent. are we uncivilized?

12]strong juduciary. are we uncivilized?

13]strong media and 55 channels.are we uncivilized?

14]we don,t have abou gharaib and guantanamo bay.
arn,t we civilized?

------yes we hybridized radicalism but it was the socallede civilized american nation who patronized that jihad.
------yes, blouchis are killed but it is mostly cia and raw who trigger violence
------yes we kill boys on the road. but it is also those among us who raise voice against these killings and arrest the dpo.

so, please, don,t under estimatse yourself. be optimistic.

although ,the half of glass is empty yet the remaining is filled.

---the true sign of a civilized society is her learning capacity.
and we do possess that, at least since last 3 years.

----lasttt but not the least sign is the coalation government.
how many coalation govts. in the world could run for more thyan three years?
but we have the entitlement of having a long coalational setup .
coalation govt. shows the capacity of the politicians of a country
to behave in a civilized manner.
sooo, are we jahill and uncivilized?