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I think whatever musharaf said was true because each and every politician in pakistan is power hungry. sincerely speaking, Nawaz sharif and shehbaz sharif both are more arrogant than any other dictator and fake police encounters in there previous reigns proves the testimony to that. we should also think that where has the money gone that nawaz collected from pakistani people to pay foreign debt through mulk bachao scheme or something like that....?
and our president needs no introduction. he is well known as Mr. ten % and the one who has killed his wife to become in power.........
so i think faces must be changed ........
may Allah save our country from destruction.

ghalat baat rajai!!! ...iss tarah kehta hay koyee kia...matlub this is the extreme with our nation na....we don't give complete credit to somebody. Mr. 10% tou woh Dukhtar-i-Mashrik (for him Zoja-i-Muhtarma Zardari) k time thay... Ab tou if he comes to know that you have ten rupees in your pocket, he will take that too and make you promise to bring another 10 rs for processing fee at his end hehe...

tareef krni hay tou full kero!! he is not Mr 10% anymore !!!
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rather we should call him "hooshiyar dewana".

i have a question why pml(n), pml(q), ppp are so afraid of one man(mush)?
if he is a dead dog ,why everyone is trying to kick him?
if he is unpopular why our political elite is so afraid?

--- have a look at musharraf vs nawaz scenario:

A]fiscal policies;
nawaz govt was going to be bankrupt in oct 1999 having only 30 million $ left in treasury.
while according to many authentic surveys 2005-2006-2007 were the best ever fiscal years of pakistan(musharaf era).
EMPLOYMENT:more than ever in musharaf era.
B]sociological policies;
highest ever sectarian killing took place during 1996-1999 period(nawaz).
musharaf brought tolerance,enlightnment,rapprochment. snuffed out hardcore militants.although militants gave feedback of suicidal attacks.
special quotas for women in all walks of life.
C] education and science and tech.:
no. of educational instt. established nby nawaz=6
in musharraf,s era no. of universities increased from 22 to 78
rural education programmes.
I.T. revolution
hec
madrassah reforms by introducing sciences and computers in 25000
madrassahs.
D] judicial conflicts:
1)nawaz vs sajjad ali shah.
2) nawaz established a parralel supreme
court under saeed ul zaman siddiqui.
3)attack on supreme court and smouldring the court
building. (total insults =.3)
while musharraf 1) dismissed a justice by force on 9 march.
2)sacked judiciary on 3 nov.
(total no. of attacks on judiciary=2).

E]pro americanism
nawaz failed the win win situation of army at kargil just to protect his rule . followed clinton.
--initially disfavoured nuke tests but owing to pressure of establishment, did.
---provided america with logistic support for missile attacks at ossama,s hide out.
---handed over eimal kansee to america and kept silent at his death by hang under american custody.

while musharraf made pak a front line allie of the west.
handed over dr. aafia and other prisoners.
refused to support attacks on iran.
refused to jam nuke programme.
refused to provide india with a corridor to afghanistan inspite of intense american pressure.

F] prestige of the country:
in nawaz era , mr. bhola waited for five hours in the balkony of white house for a meeting with mr.clinton.
while musharraf made pak 9th most developing growth rate maker country.
made front line allie and dashed the dreams of india to exorcise pakistan
with a dagger of allied forces.
created soft image.

___comparison of greymatter;

-- musharaf is the only former president in the history of the world who got protocol of the president( in singapore ).
who gave nawaz such as respect?

--musharaf is a scholar and the worth of his lectures is in millions of $.
how many universities called mr.sharif for the lecture?
--musharaf wrote a book.
has mr.nawar ever wrote a pamphlet or hand out?
--mr. vajpyee(ex pm on india) refused to join musharaf in a press conference during agra summit because musharaf was considered as clever
and sagacious like a fox.
what about mr. nawaz/
--musharaf knows urdu,punjabi,english,french and turkish language?]
nawaz...knows tooti phooti english.

--musharaf did ph.d in war studies from american defence instt.
nawaz, just m.a. economics.
--nawaz made terrible mistakes in selection of army chief and economic advisors.
while musharaf had best fiscal advisors .and he promoted best officers to the ranks of generals.

soo, who is a better administrator, better warrior?
who is more pro-american?
who is more corrupt?
who is more intelligent?
who forced amry through his inapt policies to intervene?
who is more nepotist?
who,s more assets are abroad?
who is better educationist/
who is better informationist?

_i agree that musharaf,s crimes like coup, judicial crisis,red mosque are unforgettable.

but accuse him for what he did.
and,at the same time, appreciate what he did well!

if comparison is necessary than compare like above.
appreciate at least a military dictator for his admn.

and condemn the civilian leader who proved himself an a dictator practically during his two tenures.

musharraf can be criticized and at the same time can be applaudedfor many reasons.during his one era he transformed the mindset of our society.

but, what nawaz did in his two tenures?

musharraf is the only federal fungible of the current political brainless intelligencia.
he is "andhoon mein kaana raja".
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It was nothing more than words of a person who has lost everything n at the same time almost failed pakistan in the process.he has a right to give vent to his feelings but former statesman should have have talked sensibly.there are hundred ways to kill a cat n musharaf chose the worst one.
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This is not the reasonable way of talking..regardless the fact that who is best among them but at least the way of talking and choice of words shows the personality of speaker.

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This is not the reasonable way of talking..regardless the fact that who is best among them but at least the way of talking and choice of words shows the personality of speaker.

Syanay sahi kehtay hain "Pehlay tolo phir bolo"
I never remained admirer of Nawaz Shareef for multiple reasons and have strong objections on his way of doing politics.Yet , the way he has been maligned by the former dictator is unjustifiable. Differences apart, Mian Nawaz Shareef is a a political leader with followers across the country.His party is the second largest is the parliament.If some one tend to oppose him, it should be in decent manner.

Irrespective of the future of Musharaf in Politics , it is evident that he has resorted to petty tactics of abusing the opponents in indecent manner and through personal attacks. It also reflect the mentality of generals -be they retired or in service- to wards "bloody" civilians.

Musharaf has all the rights to pursue his political ambitions being the citizen of Pakistan. However the way he has started his political campaign would just compound the already ailing political culture of Pakistan.
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On a lighter note ......

Mushaaraf during his stay at lahore was staying at FC College hostel and his favourite breakfast was BP Bun/ butter, while Mian Nawaz was residing near Gawal Mandi during those days and his favourite breakfast was Seri Pyas/Naan.
So the difference is clear
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On a lighter note ......

Mushaaraf during his stay at lahore was staying at FC College hostel and his favourite breakfast was BP Bun/ butter, while Mian Nawaz was residing near Gawal Mandi during those days and his favourite breakfast was Seri Pyas/Naan.
So the difference is clear
So we should vote them according to their menu of food in next election?
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It is wastage of time to talk and discuss about Mush and what he said. He is used too to use this type of language to gain attention. We better to accept PM Gillani advice "Parvez Musharraf be left to his own devices".
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It is wastage of time to talk and discuss about Mush and what he said. He is used too to use this type of language to gain attention. We better to accept PM Gillani advice "Parvez Musharraf be left to his own devices".
talking about our dear P.M Gillani too is wastage of time.

how dare he say,

musharraf ko uss key haal per chorr do.
what is this.musharraf don't need your pity.ok.and he is not afraid of any one.

our P.M says,

agar jobs dena jurm hai to mein ye jurm baar baar karoon ga.

what is this now.he is destroying merit.
he appointed a matric pass person the chairman of OGDCL.

So bad to hear all this stuff from our P.M.This man is worse than musharraf.
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No sir, we should study the characteristics developed in a person after eating BP bun and seri pyas ....... hahaha.
One food makes the person "brainless" while the other makes him "budzaban"
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