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Salman Taseer advocated Ahmadis
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hafiz ishtiaq ahmad (Tuesday, January 11, 2011) |
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i can't understand the psycho of our nation:-
1. where were lawyers who were showering rose-petals on Mumtaz Qadri when Salman Taseer said Blasphemy Law is Black Law? 2. Where was JUI-F, Jamiat and other religious parties who instead of challenging the Governor's stance in courts relied on media warfare? 3. There are of course flaws in our judicial system cz if Taser's views were against our constitutional system then courts were not able to trial him due to constitutional immunity. 4. He is Hero or Zero will be proved if Ulema-e-Haq come forward n clear the mind of common men who can't comprehend minute details of religion. 5. Mumtaz Qadri did well or wrong is another discussion, was he only person in the population of 18 crore, was there no one Ashiq-e-Rasool, are we not? Our Ima'an is not perfect unless with held in esteem the personality of the Holy Prophet PBUH more than our parents. What we did for Sanctity of Prophet-hood so far? 6- Iqbal said, "Ke Muhammab (PBUH) tu hum tere he je jehan chez he kia ye loh o qalam tere he" Who did WAFA with Muhammad PBUH the torchbearer of Peace and Humanity in this age? 7- How many times in a day we are disobeying the teachings of the Holy Prophet PBUH? 8 - Muslims are LUCKY people still save from disasters due to the prayers of Muhammad PBUH.
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polaris (Wednesday, January 12, 2011) |
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Its not about Mumtaz Qadri now. This is about S. Taseer who advocated that the clause regarding Ahmadis should be revoked.
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news above published doesn't depict the exact words of late mr taseer.. these are the just comments being published by some urdu newspaper after watching daughter's interview, which actually are not exact wording of daughter. i don't know what exactly is the motive of that newspaper after publishing such a heading in such a bold style of words...
i saw one more article of miss shehrbano taseer in another forum: http://www.cssforum.com.pk/general/d...-pakistan.html now i see a big change in both.. article published in "International Herald Tribune", given in link above, and the news above published in some urdu newspaper both reveal the comments of daughter; in english article mr taseer's been shown as if he was a hero but while here in this urdu newspaper mr taseer's been portrayed as if he's big sinner supporting wrong thoughts of school like ahmadis etc.. now com'n this country is full of conspirators and million hidden culprits. displaying news in such a way can be another attack on late taseer's image.. in my opinion, one can not judge anyone's soul on basis of these kind of news' which actually are not the words of man himself. i wish, people may stop portraying mr taseer wrongly for his pious work which he was carrying on to save one poor helpless lady... i don't know why someone has to spread a hatred by spreading such a useless news... oh my God, people are not ready to shout and discuss for the trial of the killer, instead ppl are still having a grudge against a deceased human whose only apparent sin, to me, was that he just wanted to help a helpless poor lady... May his soul rest in peace and may her daughter n family hv courage to fight the tough times they might hv bn goin through..!! (i expect a freedom of expression and hope my post will be added down to the thread.. thx alot) |
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maryammalik (Wednesday, January 12, 2011) |
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The main problem which I see here is
Some people think Pakistan is an Islamic state. The obvious reason being that it came into being in the name of Islam. Pakistan ka matlab kya "La Illaha Illalah". Others think that we claim that we are democratic country. Reason being the constitution of Pakistan. It is not based wholely and solely on Islam. So we are rather a confused nation, who is to find its destiny but not before we recognize what our state is. Democratic or Islamic Some people favoring Salman Taseer because they think Pakistan is secular democratic state, and others favoring Qadri because they think he has done something which should be done in an Islamic state. As far as my views on Ahmadis are concerned, I would say that it was right not to accept Ahmadis as Muslims because clearly Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be Mujadid and Messiha and claimed to be the Mahdi. So how come we the muslims going to accept him a Muslim ? So I will go against the idea of Salman Taseer in this case. But as far as blasphemy law is concerned, first Pakistan should recognize whether it is an Islamic state with Islamic laws or a democratic secular state, then form the laws according to that entitlement. |
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Who is going to determine that what kind of state is Pakistan either a Democratic one or an Islamic one?
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as far as who is going to decide thing goes one have to look at the ideology of the person who is regareded as the founder of PAK i.e M.A JINNAH...and in his views clearly PAK was a secular state... and yes if it is like it is as posted by super moderator g in the first post then it is condemnable and very strange as no one nomatter how liberal he is,he can not term ahmadis as muslims
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Assalam o alaikum
I must say in this respect that, we should admit that we are lacking in our knowledge about our religion. We have been focusing on what a particular person said in this respect which is in my view is useless. Firstly, our ulama must give their opinion w.r.t teachings of Islam. What Mumtaz Qadri did is what he could do BEST for expressing his love for our Nabi Muhammad S.A.W.W. I did not mean to say that Everyone start killing people by their own but the important thing is that if any one did such thing what Asia bibi did, its Govt. responsibility to take strict action against them but when Govt. personnel came up and protecting such people in that case we dont have any other option. When our system is not taking responsibility for doing something against such activities than lot of Mumtaz Qadri come up and take initiative by their own. Regards, Rizwan |
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Exactly
I think the same that the government must be able to conduct the state writ. It must not be the ordinary people who could do the killing. The blasphemy laws should be improved to avoid abuse of these laws. There should be a proper procedure otherwise a group of people could kill anyone and say he was involved in blasphemy. |
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floydian (Wednesday, January 12, 2011) |
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12/01/2011
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