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what i believe this is a fake operation carried by CIA and ISI,Osama had died 8 years ago.sory no prove..i agree that operation held by CIA and ISI in abbotabad ,but they took other big leader not osama.ISI claimed before that osama has been died..OSama is not a fool that somebody ricking(many years claimed bye usa) him and even he dont know,how could this possible.He is/was very sharp person.Our ISPR still silent that means "there is something at the bottem".
And i dont need/believe fake speech from Foreign office/president/PM...They are american DOGS who have greed of chair/money ...like bones....

This is the Hollow,hypocrictic,worst,weak,corrupt and fake government in the history of pakistan.
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Do you think a big Atomic Attack on a western country will be ensued by just a war on terror . Do you think ongoing war on terror is a "Large Scale Total War" in which nations have put everything at stake?? I dont think so , it looks more like an adventure of big nations of the world, while repurcussions of an Atomic Attack can be much more severe for entire human kind.
These are mere speculation about what the worst of the worst could possibly happened based on these speculations. War on terror is an established and accepted phenomenon, so world will accept this blindly as they did before. That war on terror could be a final and total war not like the one which is in progress. Ongoing war on terror is not a "Large Scale Total War" because it hampered largely by economic recession in world and particularly in America. In ongoing WoT, USA and allies invaded two countries in succession Afghanistan and Iraq and I believe that if they haven't hampered by economic recession, they may have few more till to date.
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Sir Christopher Meyer, Britain’s former Ambassador to the US, said: “I can’t conceive the US president would go out to make a statement to the world that Bin Laden is dead without being able to produce evidence that he is dead.

There Is no Evidence that Osama Bin Laden Is Dead And All this Is Happened In Pakistan

http://www.youtube.com/v/fpBPVkpmoeg&feature=player_embedded

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A detailed analysis on this issue by Syed Talat Hussain

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This is a bigger drama going on and it will likely to create great troubles for the country.


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what i believe this is a fake operation carried by CIA and ISI,Osama had died 8 years ago.sory no prove..i agree that operation held by CIA and ISI in abbotabad ,but they took other big leader not osama.ISI claimed before that osama has been died..OSama is not a fool that somebody ricking(many years claimed bye usa) him and even he dont know,how could this possible.He is/was very sharp person.Our ISPR still silent that means "there is something at the bottem".
And i dont need/believe fake speech from Foreign office/president/PM...They are american DOGS who have greed of chair/money ...like bones....

This is the Hollow,hypocrictic,worst,weak,corrupt and fake government in the history of pakistan.
I dont know why you always support Army doctrine, dont you have your own mind to think. So far, its all clear that there was no involvement of ISI in said operation, when US came, attacked and taken away the things... Our ISPR is silent because they dont have any word to share.. Dont term only the politicians/ruling elite hypocrate or weak and corrupt.

In current scenario when all this happend under the very nose of Army then there are two three things,

Scenario One: they were providing hide out to Osama and double cross to USA/West/Pakistan, and US found it and attacked single handedly

Scenario Two: the Osama was hiding their without their knowledge under their very nose, the military city of Abbotabad and they were not having any knowledge of it and US came and attacked, because they were trust deficit.

Scenario Three: The Americans came with Osama (dead or alive) and they made this drama in order to malign the country and for score gaining etc... In this case as well, the US helicopters either came from Bagram, Kamra or Tarbella ? and if they came from any base in Pakistan as to how Paksian army allowed them to have their presence of their helicopters laiden with well trained commandoes, in other case if they came from Bagram thn as to how they were able to reach upto Abbotabad, how they jammed the radar system.

It was only when the Obama called President Zardari as well as simultaneously his top generals called some top brass of Pak Army that they came to that ongoing operation.

In all these scenarios there is big shame for them and their multi billion budgets, gadgets, machinery etc and COAS and/or DG ISI should tender their resignation that they were unable to get this knowledge, is 'nt it bigger failure of our prime inteligence service !!!! Our more thn 70-80% budget is going for such issues, ? Each coffin box reaching USA creates great hue and cry there, but what for many dead bodies are being sent of Paksitani Army ranks and files as well as of Civilians ? The issue of strategic asset and strategic depth is proving to be hoax...
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Your are absoloutyly right here @Muhammad T S Awan
its shame for our army,a nuclear country in all above three situation...

but who cares here?????
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Brother i heard but not confirmed that he had been killed 8 years ago by special investigation group of CIA.if he died recently then show his body in the front of media.
Lol where is prove that he died in pakistan
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مومنو! اگر کوئی بدکردار تمہارے پاس کوئی خبر لے کر آئے تو خوب تحقیق کرلیا کرو (مبادا) کہ کسی قوم کو نادانی سے نقصان پہنچا دو۔ پھر تم کو اپنے کئے پر نادم ہونا پڑے



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This is a bigger drama going on and it will likely to create great troubles for the country.




I dont know why you always support Army doctrine, dont you have your own mind to think. So far, its all clear that there was no involvement of ISI in said operation, when US came, attacked and taken away the things... Our ISPR is silent because they dont have any word to share.. Dont term only the politicians/ruling elite hypocrate or weak and corrupt.

In current scenario when all this happend under the very nose of Army then there are two three things,

Scenario One: they were providing hide out to Osama and double cross to USA/West/Pakistan, and US found it and attacked single handedly

Scenario Two: the Osama was hiding their without their knowledge under their very nose, the military city of Abbotabad and they were not having any knowledge of it and US came and attacked, because they were trust deficit.

Scenario Three: The Americans came with Osama (dead or alive) and they made this drama in order to malign the country and for score gaining etc... In this case as well, the US helicopters either came from Bagram, Kamra or Tarbella ? and if they came from any base in Pakistan as to how Paksian army allowed them to have their presence of their helicopters laiden with well trained commandoes, in other case if they came from Bagram thn as to how they were able to reach upto Abbotabad, how they jammed the radar system.

It was only when the Obama called President Zardari as well as simultaneously his top generals called some top brass of Pak Army that they came to that ongoing operation.

In all these scenarios there is big shame for them and their multi billion budgets, gadgets, machinery etc and COAS and/or DG ISI should tender their resignation that they were unable to get this knowledge, is 'nt it bigger failure of our prime inteligence service !!!! Our more thn 70-80% budget is going for such issues, ? Each coffin box reaching USA creates great hue and cry there, but what for many dead bodies are being sent of Paksitani Army ranks and files as well as of Civilians ? The issue of strategic asset and strategic depth is proving to be hoax...
If radar is jammed
Seeing eyes are also jammed civillians can notice that someting is going on why nt army and operation being held near millitry acadmey of gernal ashfaq pervaiz kyani our cheif of army staff
Operation is nt too short that our army cannot have much time to respond and ashfaq pervaiz kyani even not demaned to show the body of osama
Maybe it shame for us that have done operation in heavily millitry area and tried to prove the previous allegation that our nuclear warheads is not on safe hands they want if as israeli ambassdor said in its tv inter wiew that a muslim nuclear armed state is threat to israel and pakistan and afghanistan is threat to israel afghanistan because of islamization
If isi cannot detect an intrusion then how they detected an israeli jet is on the way to destroy kahutta research labotries after destroying syrian and iraqi osiraq nuclear plant and our Paf then started guarding the kahutta research labotries and israeli jet surprise to see that and returned as threatned to india we will also destroy the indian nuclear plant if that will happen because india gives airbase to be refuel the israel jet the purpose of telling all this that isi is much faster to detect to know all this before this happen
Then why not know about 90 min operation in abbotabad
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