Friday, May 17, 2024
10:54 AM (GMT +5)

Go Back   CSS Forums > General > Discussion

Discussion Discuss current affairs and issues helpful in CSS only.

Reply Share Thread: Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook     Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter     Submit Thread to Google+ Google+    
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Lahore
Posts: 468
Thanks: 0
Thanked 225 Times in 168 Posts
mukt will become famous soon enoughmukt will become famous soon enough
Default

Intentions of finder are probably malicious considering his number of posts etc however that does not means what he said was wrong.

Regardless of his intentions, what he said is thinkable. I know people will come up and say "Oh nuclear assets are not so simple to blow or take away" and "Oh pakistans nuclear assets are not in one place, they are in various unknown locations in parts" etc etc but the truth is that If americans can do such an operation in our soil near our military academy and near our capital then with some more planning and force they might figure a way out destroying and or damaging our nuclear assets sooner or later.

This is the time our army and ISI and also our leadership needs to wake up, If proper and bold steps were not taken I am afraid soon we will not have what we are proud of today i.e Pakistan.

If India, a much smaller and comparatively weaker country can take half of our country from us then USA (a super power) can do much more. Please this is time to be logical and rational rather than being emotional. Whom are you trying to fool If you still say our army is one of the best and so is our air force and ISI? Trust me, the ultimate fool will be us i.e pakistanis.

Had we taken proper and required action against our military in 1971, by today pakistan would have been a far better and stronger nation. We are repeating the same mistake by supporting our army this time once again. The numbers are few comparatively but it's still sad, Mostly people (if you learn more about the public opinion) have lost all the respect for army, isi & air force. As for politicians, they were already ............ in the eyes of the public lol
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
Rixwan's Avatar
Senior Member
Best Moderator Award: Awarded for censoring all swearing and keeping posts in order. - Issue reason: 2011Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Karachi
Posts: 765
Thanks: 185
Thanked 537 Times in 371 Posts
Rixwan is just really niceRixwan is just really niceRixwan is just really niceRixwan is just really niceRixwan is just really nice
Default

Dear Saqib and Hamza,

Hold on, you people are violating the rule of the forum,

Do not make posts which are in any way offensive to others

Restrict yourself to the topic Only.
__________________
Regards,
~ Riz ~
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Rixwan For This Useful Post:
Fading Glimpse (Saturday, May 14, 2011), khuhro (Friday, May 13, 2011), Rayaan Haider (Saturday, May 14, 2011), SADIA SHAFIQ (Friday, May 13, 2011)
  #13  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
unsolved_Mystery's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bahawalpur
Posts: 1,150
Thanks: 2,659
Thanked 1,356 Times in 719 Posts
unsolved_Mystery is a splendid one to beholdunsolved_Mystery is a splendid one to beholdunsolved_Mystery is a splendid one to beholdunsolved_Mystery is a splendid one to beholdunsolved_Mystery is a splendid one to beholdunsolved_Mystery is a splendid one to behold
Default

@finder

Its totally disappointing statement. In case, Osama's end episode is admitted to be true, yet we cannot think of surrendering our Nuclear assets at any cost. Many devils are away from us just becaue we are Nuclear Power.
I am surprised, if USA conducted operation unilaterly, and left immediately, then how our (pakistani) stakeholders immediately believed that Osama was there, killed and taken.?
Maybe its true, but the way they operated and ended it raises many eyebrows. It seems they have staged it to get their some special demands (likely to come on surface in near future) fulfilled ratcheting up pressure on us.
Whatever the case, the statement of finder is exceptionable.
__________________
There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to unsolved_Mystery For This Useful Post:
muhammad_essa (Saturday, May 14, 2011)
  #14  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New York,Lahore
Posts: 679
Thanks: 988
Thanked 522 Times in 325 Posts
mjkhan is a name known to allmjkhan is a name known to allmjkhan is a name known to allmjkhan is a name known to allmjkhan is a name known to allmjkhan is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
however that does not means what he said was wrong.

this is what finder said

Quote:
Pakistan should hand its nuclear bomb over to the international community or the USA should carry out an operation to seize it .
decide for yourself.
__________________
Puppet,Slave,Lover
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Lahore
Posts: 468
Thanks: 0
Thanked 225 Times in 168 Posts
mukt will become famous soon enoughmukt will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinky2 View Post


Dear Hamza_salick86,
i know what "either" means...and he hasnt used either in the sense u are assuming it to be, i.e either pakistan gave him permission to hide or else Pakistan had no idea that he was here...his argument isnt quite that lousy *scoffs*......he didnt use "either" and "or" for these two scenarios..instead he used these two for two synonymous expressions ; either Pakistan is an incompetent state or a rogue state hiding the most most dangerous terrorist in its territory

so kindly read his entry again and plz admit that i was right and you were wrong..

he is entitled to his own opinion but this one was devoid of logic..

PS:in case u havnt noticed he himself has nothing to say about my logical rebuttal....classic case of Muddai sust, Gawah Chust
Excuse me, but I am compelled to bring to your kind attention that either you have problem understanding english or you don't really want to understand.

If you disagree with the above, kindly Explain How is it not logical for a neutral person to come to the conclusion that either Pakistan was intentionally hiding OBL (Makes them a rogue state) or They really did not know he was there and had no Idea of the raid by usa (makes them an incompetent state). Please Elaborate with what you call "Logic" how is this conclusion wrong to draw because I find it very logical and understandable. The only thing required is thinking out of the box and not being emotional
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mukt For This Useful Post:
Hamza Salick (Tuesday, September 13, 2011)
  #16  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
Hamza Salick's Avatar
Senior Member
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason: CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2010 - Merit 25Member of the Year: Awarded to those community members who have made invaluable contributions to the Community in the particular year - Issue reason: Elite CSP Medal: Members who previously received (CSP Award  and Member of the Year Award ) OR (CSP award + Gold Medal + Medal of Appreciation) are eligible for this award. - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lahore,Multan,Durham(UK),Gilgit-Baltistan
Posts: 912
Thanks: 753
Thanked 1,898 Times in 694 Posts
Hamza Salick is a name known to allHamza Salick is a name known to allHamza Salick is a name known to allHamza Salick is a name known to allHamza Salick is a name known to allHamza Salick is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkhan View Post
this is what finder said



decide for yourself.
@M.J..no doubt..even I agree what he said was wrong..I dont agree to it,u dont agree to it,nobody here agrees to it..but my point is:WE cant take away his right to say so..we dont have the right to tell him to shutup..we can refuse his point of view..but not his right to have a point of view..if we believe in democracy then we shud listen to him,refute him,but NOT malign him..
'I strongly disapprove of what u say,but I shall to my death,fight for ur right to say so'..Dis should be the spirit
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old Friday, May 13, 2011
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Lahore
Posts: 468
Thanks: 0
Thanked 225 Times in 168 Posts
mukt will become famous soon enoughmukt will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkhan View Post
this is what finder said



decide for yourself.

When "x" says 2+2 = 4, and then later on "x" says 100+100 = 500 and I say I agree with "x" that does not mean I also agree with his wrong portion which is 100+100 = 500

Similarly when I said what he said was correct was in reference to his statement that either pakistan is an incompetent state or a rogue state because the reasons he gave were logical.

I, However, As a Pakistani, do not agree that pakistan should handover it's nuclear assets but they should strive real hard now and should punish the army, ISI and air force severely and humiliate them for their blunder and make sure this does not happen in future because this is not the first time our army commits blunders and we cannot simply ignore them all the time, indirectly we are making them incompetent this way
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mukt For This Useful Post:
Hamza Salick (Friday, May 13, 2011)
  #18  
Old Saturday, May 14, 2011
SADIA SHAFIQ's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Heaven
Posts: 1,560
Thanks: 1,509
Thanked 1,417 Times in 749 Posts
SADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant futureSADIA SHAFIQ has a brilliant future
Default

lets come to discussion and avoid personal attacks ..I strongly disagree that nuclear assets will be destroyed or any kind of it.This was the first benefit which we received from Zulfiqar.....

nuclear arsenals are quite safe in Pakistan and one not to worry about this but only thing which i wana say that it is a part of U.S.A conspiracy and we should understand it very well ...our aggressive tone toward high echelon will create a trust deficit and this, THIS is the only thing which will lead to collapse further already destroyed social set up
__________________
"Wa tu izzu man-ta shaa, wa tu zillu man-ta shaa"
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old Saturday, May 14, 2011
Muhammad T S Awan's Avatar
Senior Member
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason: AppreciationDiligent Service Medal: Awarded upon completion of 5 years of dedicated services and contribution to the community. - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Land of Uncia Uncia :)
Posts: 2,071
Thanks: 1,731
Thanked 2,264 Times in 1,100 Posts
Muhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant futureMuhammad T S Awan has a brilliant future
Default

Excuse me, this is totaly insane to talk of handing over of our nuclear bombs/ capability to USA. You people better to discuss the issues related to you. This is none of your business to decide whether the nukes should go to home. Try to play your due role for nation building at your own capacity. If you will try to foot yourself in others shoes, which are rather quite bigger for you, you will simply jump down.. So please dont discuss such topics. !
__________________
'Thee woh ik shakhs kay tasawar saay - abb woh ranayee khayal kahaan'
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Muhammad T S Awan For This Useful Post:
ArifAwan (Saturday, May 14, 2011), candidguy (Saturday, May 14, 2011), Fading Glimpse (Saturday, May 14, 2011), fitman (Saturday, May 14, 2011), Hamza Salick (Saturday, May 14, 2011), SADIA SHAFIQ (Saturday, May 14, 2011), Saqib Shah (Saturday, May 14, 2011)
  #20  
Old Saturday, May 14, 2011
Xeric's Avatar
Provincial Civil Service
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason: PMS / PCS Award: Serving PMS / PCS (BS 17) officers are eligible only. - Issue reason: Diligent Service Medal: Awarded upon completion of 5 years of dedicated services and contribution to the community. - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,639
Thanks: 430
Thanked 2,335 Times in 569 Posts
Xeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdomXeric is a bearer of wisdom
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhammad T S Awan View Post
Excuse me, this is totaly insane to talk of handing over of our nuclear bombs/ capability to USA. You people better to discuss the issues related to you. This is none of your business to decide whether the nukes should go to home. Try to play your due role for nation building at your own capacity. If you will try to foot yourself in others shoes, which are rather quite bigger for you, you will simply jump down.. So please dont discuss such topics. !
I totally agree with your views. If one person (Quaid-i-Azam) can become founder of this country and one person (Dr. Qadeer Khan) can make it insurmountable then why not our millions of talented youth work for its prosperity?

Together we can bring the change, united we stand divided we fall. We, the youth, can change the fate of our nation. We need to work hard and focus on our education. We have to remain honest and loyal to our country in any capacity whether as a clerk or top military general or civilian officer.

Remember, our nation is not less than any country in the world. We have well trained bureaucracy, well organized army, nuclear arms, strategic position, beautiful weather, huge mineral and natural resources. We just need a single leader, who will definitely rise among you and you will see our country rising and shining in the world. Insha Allah.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Xeric For This Useful Post:
SADIA SHAFIQ (Saturday, May 14, 2011), very special 1 (Monday, September 19, 2011)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
development of pakistan press since 1947 Janeeta Journalism & Mass Communication 15 Tuesday, May 05, 2020 03:04 AM
History of Presidentship in Pakistan Naseer Ahmed Chandio General Knowledge, Quizzes, IQ Tests 1 Tuesday, May 31, 2011 03:00 PM
Important C.A topics for CE 2011..! Maha Khan Current Affairs 1 Sunday, January 30, 2011 09:56 AM
China's Nuclear Environment and the US Theatre Missile Defence Initiative Nek Muhammad International Relations 0 Monday, July 05, 2010 05:38 PM
History of Iranian Nuclear Programme Naseer Ahmed Chandio News & Articles 0 Tuesday, May 30, 2006 02:07 PM


CSS Forum on Facebook Follow CSS Forum on Twitter

Disclaimer: All messages made available as part of this discussion group (including any bulletin boards and chat rooms) and any opinions, advice, statements or other information contained in any messages posted or transmitted by any third party are the responsibility of the author of that message and not of CSSForum.com.pk (unless CSSForum.com.pk is specifically identified as the author of the message). The fact that a particular message is posted on or transmitted using this web site does not mean that CSSForum has endorsed that message in any way or verified the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message. We encourage visitors to the forum to report any objectionable message in site feedback. This forum is not monitored 24/7.

Sponsors: ArgusVision   vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.