Originally Posted by hamza_salick86

Awan bhai..please yar aik fesla karwa dain..Rayan ko bta dain k Zia ul Haq ne constitution ka disregard kia tha ya nahy and are we right in criticizing him or not..Or did he say that 'Constitution is a piece of paper and nothing else' or not..Plz put this historical facts right coz yahan me jhoota ho raha hun..

Originally Posted by hamza_salick86

Or yar ap tw is kabil bhi nahy ho k copy paste kar sako..ap ko tw koi bichaara simple bat kr rha ho angraizi me tw wo samajh nahy atibanda koi bat kurta he ap koi or jawab detey hoare u sure ur mentally fit for css?????Me ne kaha na,2 taaliyan marne wale le ao..tum stage pe kam kar sakte ho..baki kuch nahy kr sakte kid..n this is a prove that u have started on non issues..

Originally Posted by Rayaan Haider

avoid personal attacks and maintain decorum of forum.i am a student or capable of it or not you will decide it??

Originally Posted by Muhammad T S Awan

You are right. President and COAS General Muhammad Zia ul Haq did so.

If somebody is unable to get to anything, thn it has simple answer, just open books or say I dont know instead of making comments for the sake of comments.

This discussion was primarily related to the comments of some newspaper in USA, as to whether ISI is the top intelligence agency of the world or not and everything has been going mess and away from the topic. Please fellows, I know very well that you people dont know many nitty gritties of intelligence agencies including the prime intelligence agency of Pakistan, the ISI, so its better to not shed your comments over here.

If some fellow have some serious things to discuss/ask and not finding answer, my email adress is mentioned in my profile, just send an email to me. I will try to reply it as per my level best, however, there can be procrastination in reply due to the reason that i use to have tight schedule.

Originally Posted by Muhammad T S Awan

You are right. President and COAS General Muhammad Zia ul Haq did so.

If somebody is unable to get to anything, thn it has simple answer, just open books or say I dont know instead of making comments for the sake of comments.

This discussion was primarily related to the comments of some newspaper in USA, as to whether ISI is the top intelligence agency of the world or not and everything has been going mess and away from the topic. Please fellows, I know very well that you people dont know many nitty gritties of intelligence agencies including the prime intelligence agency of Pakistan, the ISI, so its better to not shed your comments over here.

If some fellow have some serious things to discuss/ask and not finding answer, my email adress is mentioned in my profile, just send an email to me. I will try to reply it as per my level best, however, there can be procrastination in reply due to the reason that i use to have tight schedule.

Originally Posted by Rayaan Haider

Its mean you share personal things here lol@personal attacks

Originally Posted by Last Island

@ Rayaan

Are you going to behave or should I teach you some good lessons?

Originally Posted by mjkhan

i think i should not say i disagree with you because the fact is that what you have said is absolutely correct but nevertheless the situation should be observed not just only from the scope of what is right and what is wrong but also from the scope of what the ground realities actually are.

1.on the one hand army is criticised for not stopping the drone attacks although officially this should be the govtz. task but when army is doing something(lets say through KHAN etc) we come with the argument that this is interference in politics and beyond their scope(to me,this double standard from our side).my question is why politicians are not doing this if it is their task?the vaccum has to be filled in from somewhere.it is not the interference by the army but it is because of the weaknesses of politicians.they are simply not pursuing the case of PAK.our politicians are either incompetent or are not interested.army at the moment dont want to interfere in the politics but they are they are being compelled to do so.

sir jo cheez poray PAK ko pata hai us k liye isi ko kiu takleef detay hain.i mean seriously you dont know who is doing all this in karachi?the kids on the street know this.see this is the point i am against to.some of us are defaming isi(intentionally or intentionally i dont know).tanqeed ki jaey par mazak na uraya jaey however everyone reserves the right to do what she/he thinks is right

pehlay to ye isi ka kaam hee nahee hai ye ap ki law enforcement agencies ka kaam hai.why are you putting the blame of all the shortcomings on isi?ye jo ho raha hai is ko duniya ki sari agencies bhi mil jain to nahee rook sakti because it is the reaction to social injustice and natural(and nature cannot be stopped from taking its due course,it is as natural as the rain.)

agreed.we need a change altogether.hamain bheek lena band karna ho gee.we have to set our own independent priorities etc etc (and isi cannot and is not made for doing this.)an important thing in this regard is that all the institution have to stay in their respective parameters including army,isi.out of the scope role of isi and army was, is and will be disastrous for us