|
Discussion Discuss current affairs and issues helpful in CSS only. |
Share Thread: Facebook Twitter Google+ |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
#1
|
||||
|
||||
Is the religion only bond that binds the provinces of pakistan togather.??
Is the religion only bond that binds the provinces of pakistan togather.??
For those who says religion is not only thing!!! then keep these points in mind that we (all the provinces) have different social norms, cultures, living style and specially different language. besides them the biasness amongst the provinces and the sense of Superiority and inferiority. then how to find nationalism and patriotism amongst the inferiors. And for those who think that religion (for sure i mean ISLAM) is the only societal glue that keeps it binding then keep these point in view while discussing Islam has taken a very different shape. many sects have been formed and every one claims to be at the righteous path. AS Holy prophet (SAWW) has already foretold that there would be more than 72 different sects in Islam.( correct me if i am wrong). then the point is so many sects and each sect is in conflict with the fellow sect. ... when do they would get time for pakistan..... if both are not the cases than what exactly has bonded the provinces of Pakistan. The only answer is POWER. please comment with reasons and logics..... no place for emotions.. |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
Religion is not considered as a cohesive factor among the relations of state and confederating units.This is the commonality of strategic,political and economic interests which brings the states together.Inter state relationships always transcends religion.Had religion been a factor of political unity,East Pakistan debacle would not have taken place;European countries would not have been involved in horrific battles with each other.Leave aside religion,even language and culture sometimes cannot bind the states together.Had it been so,the dream of Arab nationalism would not have crumbled to pieces.Our four provinces are bound together by economic and strategic and political necessities not by religion.Even the name of Islam was used to stir the emotions of people to rally round Muslim League then.It was the hanging sword of Hindu hegemony which led us to the path of cessation from the rest of subcontinent.
Dear Friend,Do consider the saying of Otto Van Bismarck that "There is no morality between the states." |
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to mechrose37 For This Useful Post: | ||
Ahmed_2007_Cool (Monday, May 23, 2011), Hamza Salick (Sunday, May 22, 2011), Hannibal (Sunday, May 22, 2011), m.furqan08 (Sunday, May 22, 2011) |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
If religion doesn't bind a state together,then why is Israeli society so glued together-keeping in mind the fact that-Israel comprises diverse population from many ethnic, religious, cultural, political and social backgrounds. Over half of its Jewish population is native-born with the rest from 102 different countries around the world? ****** I don't know the answer.I asked to learn the reason behind the bondage of Israeli society. My personal opinion: Either it's religion or Arab-phobia that's binding Jews together? Last edited by Predator; Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at 02:53 PM. |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
(Speaking emphatically) Was it really this commonality in the guise of religion that brought independance to us (pakistan). If it was not then when it transformed . Secondly why one third people of balochistan need to break this formation of provinces . Are they not enjoying the commonalites you mentioned or the cause is something else. Quote:
The discussion here is about pakistan and the cause of the unitation of its provinces.
__________________
Whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger..... Last edited by marwatone; Monday, May 23, 2011 at 09:28 AM. Reason: Posts merged. |
#5
|
||||
|
||||
religion a bond for coexistance
according to Holy Qur'an:
Allah has created people in different nations and tribes. (Ch: 49, Verse 13) pakistan being a muslim state have people with different cultures, and traditions but if you see there is another unchanging and continuous super- structure which reflect common historical experiences and shared cultural codes... this supers-tructure provides a common goal to the different sub nationalities, however, at the same time, Quan has provided much room for the sub nationalities to have their own evolution... then at another place, Allah says, to hold tight the rope of Allah... so islam neither favours greater centralisation nor independent provicialism... then justice is the prime institution of state which works as a foundation piller of the islamic state... you see, providing economic and social justice is the responsibility of the islamic state in which the units feel at ease.... the case of Bangladesh, if analysed in this islamic perspective.... islam has played a role to bind it together with west unit but when there was lack of economic and social injustice on the part of the rulars, so it separated from the centre... so islam is not confined to dogmas of unity and just unity... but it is has made it clear that justice is the prime institution of the state.... look at Lahore resolution of 1940, it also used the phrase, "confederation of states"... so semi atonomous units is the real essence of pakistan.. lastly, the question whether the religion is the only binding force to bind the provinces of pakistan... so dear, your question is based on the western perspective of the role of religion... where in the west religion is dogma and irrational atitude.... while islam appeal to the reason and practical things... so in the west what is considered as "secular" that is "religious" in islam... bcz being secular was the person who revolted against christian dogmas through which they ruled over the Roman state... so what they have learned from the muslim world that ultimately became secular in christian perspective... if such is the reality then off course islam can play a bigger role to create a sense of unity... but this islam should not be the one, to which, today many religious groups identify themselves with... in fact such groups are ether confused with the religion islam or they deliberately follow the agenda of those who claim muslims as terrorist, fundamentalists, or traditionalist etc |
The Following User Says Thank You to muhammad_essa For This Useful Post: | ||
candidguy (Tuesday, May 24, 2011) |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
@ Dear Candidguy,
You certainly have raised a very good point about Israel which in true spirits is a religious state;but there are many notable jews in USA who vehemently who are against the very thought of confining the jews in a territorial unit.And I personally believe that this very religious,better say rabbinical character of Israel will shake her very foundations. @ Dear Awan, You have placed your finger on the pulse of Baluchistan issue by commenting that a vast majority of Baluchs is very apprehensive about the Federation of Pakistan.They believe that their hopes have been trampled down by a Punjab dominated center and they have been denied their due rights entitled to them by constitution.See religion cannot play any role in putting a balm over injured feelings of Baluchs here. Dear Folks, While religion is subtle, abstract ,intangible,celestial and spiritual;economy is physical,mundane,worldly and tangible.Spiritual problems cannot be resolved unless the solution to economic and political problems is sought out.A starved man would think of bread and butter;not of religion rites and rituals.This is why there goes a tradition of Hazrat Mohammad SAWW. " Eradicate poverty for it leads to infidelity". The punishment of thieves is that their hands be chopped from wrists.But Hazrat Omar suspended the punishment of chopping of hands during a severe drought and famine in Yemen.Islami punishments,therfore,can only be implemented when our society is modeled on State of Medina-----------a truly Utopian State. |
The Following User Says Thank You to mechrose37 For This Useful Post: | ||
Sociologist PU (Monday, May 23, 2011) |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
Whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger..... |
#8
|
||||
|
||||
Baluchs feel that no such commonality exists between them and Federation .We have to make them feel that their independent status would further devastate them.
|
#9
|
||||
|
||||
who said Provinces are together in Pakistan? lol isn't a joke?
|
#10
|
||||
|
||||
Religion has its role in bonding the provinces of Pakistan but beside with religion a Pakistani culture has also evolved in the last 63 years that keep the people glued of all provinces.
Have not you noticed the commonalities between us ? Urdu the national language is understood and spoken in all parts of Pakistan. Our national dress is Shalwar+qameez that is used by all from khyber to karachi. Cricket is a game that is loved by all and everybody forgets about his/her ethnicity and feel a proud Pakistani when our team wins a match. Our food habits are same and one can find the same food wheather in Peshawar, Lahore, Quetta or karachi. Our heros are same in the entertainment world and most of our national leaders enjoy popularity in every part of the country. We have Newspapers that are distributed and read from Gilgit to karachi the same day. We have fashion designers that have their outlets in all provinces and people like the same fashion and style that is popular in other provinces. And there are several other examples that shows the presence of a strong PAKISTANI CULTURE that has bonded all the provinces and people with a common heritage. The minorities of pakistan also practice this culture although they are non-muslim and found in all provinces which shows that beside with religion, we have a common culture that bring us togather. So beside with religion, it is our common HERITAGE and CULTURE that bonded us togather as one NATION.
__________________
/// Aur be ghum hain zamanay main muhabat kay siwa /// |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sociologist PU For This Useful Post: | ||
candidguy (Tuesday, May 24, 2011), muhammad_essa (Tuesday, May 24, 2011) |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Pak-Affairs Notes | Predator | Pakistan Affairs | 68 | Friday, December 23, 2022 07:27 PM |
Important C.A topics for CE 2011..! | Maha Khan | Current Affairs | 1 | Sunday, January 30, 2011 09:56 AM |
Report of Technical Commitee on Water Resources | Yasir Hayat Khan | General Knowledge, Quizzes, IQ Tests | 0 | Monday, January 16, 2006 02:53 AM |