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it is an old saying that"khoob maza us dosti mei ha jo sulah ho jaye jang ho kar"apparently war is not a final solution or a good act rather the fighters are often resembles to sheeps but the issue is not the war but the aims,purposes behind this which a nation,a tribe wants to get.in ancient times war was essential for survival and we have a lot of examples like changaez khan,halaku khan,nadir shah and many more who who by their power destroyed their enemies in the proud of their power and strength it was the custom of that period that every warrior in power want to destroy the weak.no doubt that was the law of jungle that is still in practice.america like a brave lion and on the base of its wonderful tecnology want to rule on this wonderful planet.and this brave lion want to fulfill its aims by fair and unfair means,doesnt matter who is suffering,how many countless people are suffering and wht are the effects and who are effecting by their cruel decisions.the so called leaders who talk about human rights are giving or taking the rights of muslims which they think their biggest and worst enemy,who talk about counter terrorism are providing safety measures or personally spreading it.the decisions of aqwam,e,e muthida always leave negative effects on muslims.
the world is still facing the effects of first and second world war,the world at that time was divided in two parts now the the situation is again that the world is again now had been divided as muslims and non muslim bolcks.it is the time that the leaders of the world and super powers should take it seriously and give the proof of dignity but they are giving air the divergent issues,fake stories which supports to grow and spread the cancerious diseases of hate,disunity,nation and religion differences.the rubbish attitude which america and its allies has adopted,the third world war is clear from that. war can never the solution of all and its not necessary for peace.rather a fair and meaningful dialogue is actually the solution of all.
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America has its own interest in war..They supply weapons to both parties..support the one who will serve their interest and thus by the end of the day the sold find customers for their weapon industry and a puppet in their hand..They exploit over weakness which is corruption and lust for power.They are doing waht is good for them.by hook or by crook but they are serving their country..Muslims and other weak nation's rulers just work for their personal interest..so it is hard to us to pull out this quagmire..They just exploit our weakness.i don't think they deserve too be blamed..it is us who should think about this.look at the example of Libya..CIa made these rebels long before this ARAB SPRINg..And these rebels in spite of working for their nation accepted their offer and took weapons..so we can't blame amerca..It is rebels who played in their hands..sure Qadafi is also responsible for this but atthe same time he was considered a hard core tyrant who showed some anti-American sentiment in the past..He tried to please the Americans at later stage but till that time they already put him on the target list..America became super power not just because of their technology nad economy..But because of their hardwork to work for their intereset even if they had to destroy a country for it ..they didn't hesitate
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Charles Sumner once said Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace.

so we cant say that its the final solution ,war is wastage of huge money.as Pakistan spend a large portion of its budget on war against terror .but still no appreciation from that countries which rather to promote peace want war with the Muslims.When the nation in power wage war, it's theweak who die.
If we do not end war - war will end us. Everybody says that, millions of people believe it, and nobody does anything. ~H.G. Wells,
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As far as human is nafs e amarah,
as far as humans has desire
As far as human has limited resources,
As far as human have diffrent views
There is lust, there is war,
War is war, nothing but war,
There is no end to war,
War is within us
War is everywhere
As far as human nafs is made up of 4 components,
There is no end to war
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War is not solution culminating in peace. Just take a few examples.
1. Iraq- America war
2. Afghan-America war
3. Russo-Afghan war
4. Pak-India wars

After every war, there has been turmoil and participants have suffered a lot and have grown antipathy against each which requires a minor friction ensuing into another conflict.

Dialogues is the best course toward peace. Take a few examples.

1. Suleh e Hudaibya
2. Purchase opf Louisiana


Hope for the best is another measure.
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Peace cannot be achieved through violence; it can only be attained through understanding.
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Peace cannot be achieved through violence; it can only be attained through understanding.
What about World War II, the Chinese revolutionary war and the American revolution?

Lasting peace was achieved after all these wars.

Aristotle said, "we make war that we may live in peace". The Roman playwright Vegetius said, "If you wish for peace, prepare for war".

In many cases, there can be no understanding. If there could be understanding, why did we create Pakistan? Couldn't we just have an understanding with Hindu India? Where have peaceful negotiations taken us with regards to Palestine and Kashmir?
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What about World War II, the Chinese revolutionary war and the American revolution?

Lasting peace was achieved after all these wars.

Aristotle said, "we make war that we may live in peace". The Roman playwright Vegetius said, "If you wish for peace, prepare for war".

In many cases, there can be no understanding. If there could be understanding, why did we create Pakistan? Couldn't we just have an understanding with Hindu India? Where have peaceful negotiations taken us with regards to Palestine and Kashmir?
Peace was established through treaties right?
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Peace was established through treaties right?
In the Chinese revolutionary war, there was no peace treaty.

The Germans and the Japanese only capitulated and agreed to living in peace after the most devastating war in history.

After the British defeat in America, the British signed the 1783 Paris treaty and that was a mere formality. Would the British have left the 13 colonies on their own and signed them away voluntarily? It was a war that made them sign the treaty. In fact, signing the treaty was a mere formality in the end because the British had been successively driven out of the 13 colonies by 1783 anyway. However, despite the treaty, only in 1861, the British were busy sending supplies to the breakaway Confederates of the American Civil War. So much for the treaty.

Even then, a treaty that comes into existence because of a war cannot be examined in isolation and it must be taken into consideration what events brought it into existence. For instance, would the Germans and the Japanese have sued for peace without Operation Overlord and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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