Dear CHerubic
lets find some reasons why did it happen so. You know the democracy is the name of a process . Having an election and forming a government do not constitute a true democracy. In Pakistan, unfortunatly, right after its inception, the democracy has always been dejected. Even the so called democratic governments have been terminated again and again. Even when they were in power, though for a short period of time, there always have been king makers and king breaker around them. who doesn't know the dirty politics of military bureaucracy?
Given that still democarcy has performed well when ever they got a chance. who can deny the importance of 18th amendment, the NFC award... military regimes have always left there garbage for the domocratic one ...
lets focus on the recent regims. who entered into the so called war on terror which now, for pakistani, has become a war of terror. Look at the present situation in balochistan, the libration movement. the metter of the fact is dictators have always used coercive means to achieve their political goals which left their backlash.
In the given condition of pakistan, True democracy is the only solution of all the problems. The incompetent leadership will perish in the political process it will take time though.

Yes it's ture that ILL-LITERATE people should not be given the right of the democracy. As Hitler said if there was less than 40% Education, it is suicidal to implement Democracy. So Pakistani nation which is under feudal system democracy is poison to be given. But dictatorship like that of Musharraf can deteriorate the sovereignity of the country.

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@all favouring dictatorship over democracy or who thinks that dictatorship is better than democracy

1.has democracy ever been given a chance to flourish?if not then what are the basis of your comparison between the two?on the flip side dictatorships were of greater periods in terms of their span.

2.the reason due to which some favour dictatorship is the economic growth.what was the pivotal point due to which economy flourished in the era of musharaf?(an analysis of this question would help in understanding why democracy fails to deliver)

3.have you all made a comparison of what we got at the expense of what in dictatorship?/to make it simple the drawbacks of dictatorship and their comparison with fruits of it?


for the ones with the argument that democracy suits more where people are educated etc.yes,true indeed but even then dictatorship is not the solution to come up with as an alternative.we should think on some different lines if and only if we dont want our set up to be democratic.dictatorship is like a sucide.

dictatorship is rule of ONE(this is highly risky and dangerous)

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evaluating this from economic angle, the non-democratic time period has witnessed brilliant performance in economic indicators as well as investments in SOC as the dictators had a will. But democracy has always resulted in unstable economy. Military cycle significantly impacts the growth process in Pakistan. So to foster the economy, democracy is the biggest hurdle and it don't suits us.

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I'm in favour of fair democracy in Pakistan elected by the educated not ill-educated people of Pakistan.

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Some economists propose certain conditions must be met as a pre-requisite of democracy. One of which is a limit of per capita income, that must be attained for the success of democracy. That limit is about $6,000 per capita income.

The miracle economies of East Asia and their extraordinary economic performance over decades suggest that economic development naturally precedes democracy. Lee Kuan Yew, the founding father of modern and developed Singapore, asserted that democracy leads to “disorderly conduct” that interrupts material progress. The country is now one of the richest in the world.

China’s economic success in the last quarter of a century, which is remarkable and miraculous, has created the case for a tight grip on political power in order to create a dynamic economy.

So in Pakistan democracy is hindering the progress and development of the country. Democracy could only succeed if we met certain pre-requisite of the democracy. The success of democracy in Pakistan is largely dependent on attainment of certain level of literacy, economic and social liberty.

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yes indeed economic performance was much better in dictatorship than in democracy but why?

1.how can military cycle significantly impacts the growth process?

2.how military cycle significantly impacts the growth process?

3.what was the main reason for the boom in economy in musharafz era?

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For Q. No. 1 & 2. Theres a latest thesis of M.Phil, for Pakistan, which has used data and checked for presence of Political & Military cycle. That has found military cycle as positively and significantly affecting growth using ARDL bounds testing approach. Plus there are hundreds of papers in world over military cycle and growth.

Q. No. 3, excessive credit issuance. Musharraf era growth was a disaster indeed in the Long Run. I am highly appreciable of Ayub era growth. Please see performance in 1950's and compare with 60's. Its eye opening. Leave it aside, after zia, in 1990's what our politicians/democratic setup did of our economy, a glance at the macro indicators would testify my statement.

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Yes, democracy has got an ample time to floursih but main issue is that all the policies which they implemented got failed (due to whatsoever reason illiteracy or any other), they held the last state holder responsible for this...and for whole period of democracy they used this blame game as tool so that no one can point finger on them....and when things become uncontrollable they left the house...

I dont have any answer of the Point 2

this thing is the outcome of that blame game...we can only get true picture if we have sincere media which unfortunately we dont have so they (media) goes with the one who is in power...

currently, dictatorship is the only answer because it took centuries to educate the people who hold the offices another solution is, if we get educated people elected in next election which in my view is next to impossible because the money, which plays an important role in the campaign for election, isnt available to those educated people and people who have lot of money are not educated so dictatorship is the only answer.

So are you trying to say that the Khilafat regime cause danger to the Muslims at that time? because as far as I know this dictatorship is similar to that of Khilafat system..in which Islam and Muslims spread in most of the parts of the world...West read this and it termed it as Dictatorship and directed our minds towards it that it cause danger to the people.

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why democracy is not flourished in Pakistan.

I will like to mention following causes here..

1.personalization in politics.
2.Muslim leagues leadership exploitation at the hands of bureaucrats.
3.local bodies election ignored;even present govt too.this did not created leaders from gross root level.
4.capital+power= minister

since the inception of pakistan ministers like
A.K.Fazulul haq,
Ch.kaliq uz zaman,
Hussain shaeed seharwardi,
Liaqat shaeed
and others are dismissed and humiliated.that was the major set back to party system and it helped those technocrats who had become ministers.

Zulfiqar era was democratic

According to my humble opinion this era was not democratic at all. i will cite reasons...

1.1971 first civil martial law administrator.
2. he too ,acted like dictators and general elections were held in 1977 where as constitution waa made in 1973 .
3.I forgot the name of his own army which was used to kill those who went against him
4. and many more but no doubt he was shrewd enough to exploit the foreign policy of pakistan in the wake of following facts

1.his diplomatic stance regarding Tashkent declaration and mujib six points

why democracy do not suit us and what is democracy?

democracy stands for freedom and freedom in which field...
1.telecom industry
2.broadcast industry.
3.IT industry
4.hotel industry
5.electricity and power industry.
6.private banking
and many more institutions....

1. democracy allow these institutions to flourish without government intervention then it will necessitate foreign intervention.
2.these institutions are the sources of revenue for government but when these become privatized.then govt has to lend from foreign powers for aid because in Pakistan private business is run by foreign entrepreneur and not local people are running these.so all the earning goes in the hand of foriegners .even surprising thing is now agriculture industry is also on the verge of privatization.as govt has started lending land to foreign countries

now we have examples of neo communist china who developed not because of democracy.but after getting stronghold over institutions china govt liberalized economic policies.and why India flourished because Indira ghandi tilted toward the ideology of dictatorship and issued license raj.which did not allow foreigners to invest.

pakistam ka 5 year plan sirf ek he dafa kamyab hvq vo zia ka era tha .mushraf ke zamany me IMF ce loans 60% kam hogae th

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