@invincible

imran khan is not a "super man". he needs a proper team to implement his vision...only if he has a practical one

did we ask these question previously from the servants of america,what we have done to make the incumbent accountable no we havent done anything instead intentionally or unintentionly supported the Hippocrates of country. we all just voted on the basis of personality. we cannot doubt the positive intention of imran khan to save pakistan from these servants. who in pakistan has presented himself for accountability no one except imran khan. islam say : aamaal ka daro madaar intentions par hay.
atleast i feel and the crowd of yesterday which included( a baby of 6 months till the age of 80, disabled people included who travelled from the different parts just for the sake of our country) felt that yes this man can bring back golden days for pakistan. doubting imran khan intentions means not being patriotic.
HE IS THE ONLY PAKISTANI WHO HAS STRUGGLED FOR 18 YEARS WITH GOOD INTENTION AND POSITIVE INTENTION FOR OUR COUNTRY. I SALUTE HIM AND WILL INSHA ALLAH STAND BY HIM AS BEING A PATRIOTIC PAKISTANI WHO FEELS PAIN FOR HIS COUNTRY.

YESTERDAYS CROWD WAS THE CROWD OF PATRIOTIC PAKISTANI AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAT BY TV AND WATCHED HIS JALSA.

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the same point applies here...don't expect what is practically not possible...

i don't DEFER with his policy of change....i just doubt its success and practicality .....

Imran's intentions alone can not save Pakistan....he have long way to go...to collect an appropriate team....so don't expect him to clean sweep upcoming elections.....

my point is

Governing is hard work, and even hardliners may moderate their positions when faced with the practical realities. so once he gain power he would have to back off from his certain policies and thats a HARD FACT

why do we think that revolution is not only practically possible for pakistan. no one the world would have imagine that black obama would be the president of america. french revolution. iran revolution, pakistan creation. and many more examples.

ALLAH SAYS: jaisa ghuman karogaye waisa he hoga

so dont doubt regarding his success and play your role to save pakistan.

the crowd of 2 lac or more all had the same intentions as imran khan. he is not alone. gathering the crowd of such is not easy most signifcant in lahore.
it means he is not alone.

katra katra kar k darya banta hay

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i admitted it in very first post of this thread....that the strength was impressive but you are over exaggerating it...you need to check on the statistics from some neutral source...the crowd was around 60k to 70k....yes, an impressive one.....

now you endorse my point that is what i am trying to prove....he can not bring change on his own..he needs a team....the one which consists of specialists...and that would take time...so that all those drops could make a sea...long way to go....

he has the specialist in every field and believe u me or not pakistani sitting out side working in the thinktanks for other states are providing him the expertise in every field. the point is just to become a drop for the tsunami.

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being optimistic is a good approach...but we have to base our opinion
on logical grounds....having support and advise (if he have) of the think tanks of other states...is not enough...he need to have people who can run his government and administration on the ground...excellent ideas are worthless without ope rationalization

Sadia I beg to differ here... Why is it wrong to praise Imran Khan?


As a nation we may cry for change but looking at our behaviour, we don’t really seem to actually want it. We are so deeply embedded in our comfort zone ruled by dynasties and corrupt politicians that when someone different comes along, we can’t wait to mock them on our Facebook statuses, discussion forums, casual talks, etc etc and pinpoint the first thing we see wrong in them.

Talking about the strenght at Imran Khan's last night's Lahore Rally, Yeah, he did. Altaf does it. Shahbaz does it. Zardari may hope to one day do it but none of them have so far managed to get crowds singing with them. Imran Khan did – and not while he blared his version of Jalib or a parody of "Parday may rehnay do"… instead he managed to get onboard people who can actually help him create some kind of unity amongst the crowds. Just compare it with
the bored and jaded crowd sitting at other political rallies clutching photographs of leaders who aren’t even in front of them.

Imran Khan promised to put an end to corruption, imrpove tax collection, protect the rights of minorities, children and women, and the issue of Balochistan, etc which you wrote is not nearly unlike the agenda of every Pakistani political party.
Well Sadia! bringing some crucial issues into mainstream politics may not be the easiest task he takes up, but given he gets the chance to do that and then succeed – well that’s what you call a victory. So Let's wish him luck here...
But we all know that none of all the past goverments have implemented what is written in their manifestos (or agenda). Instead they have been exploiting their power and amended the country's consitution for their personal gains...

Now, talking about his policies and his promises about revolutionary reforms... His policies may be all over the place… or not even in place yet but Imran Khan has managed to do something that none of the other leaders have so far – wake people up. Forget the rural voters who are promised a plate of "biryani" for their vote. I am talking about people such as your siblings, your neighbours and co-workers. When so much of worse is happening in our country and when a commoner has decided to abstain from voting again, he has managed to wake them up, register themselves and get excited to vote for the very first time. How far Imran Khan manages to go, who knows, but making even quarter of this nation optimistic about the future is a very big achievement already.

You mentioned in your point number "C" about his Anti-American Policy...
Speaking very clearly on foreign policy, Khan stated that his party does indeed want relations and friendship with the US – BUT, on the basis of equality. He doesn’t want to be America’s puppet – how is that a bad thing? We won’t get dollars, true, but we may manage to get some respect. He doesn’t want to fight America’s war – what’s wrong with that?
We were pretty desperate to claim our sovereignty, which is impossible when our government itself allows the US to drop its missiles inside our territory. But then if that doesn’t happen – who will fight the monsters we created that are blowing people up? Imran Khan thinks dialogue is the solution – so you don’t agree, sure.
What will happen if we end up war on terror at this point of time, Sadia?
Atleast he has the courage to say all this without an entourage of feudal guards around him or a bullet-proof podium to protect him.

And last point but not the least one... Let's just not compare BB and ZAB with Imran Khan, as the later has still a long way to go in politics and a great deal to learn... Ok even if we measure his charisma for the sake of argument- more than ever before, we see parallels being drawn here with what Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto created decades ago- the dreams, the hopes and the energy. The youth that Imran Khan has woken up may be as naïve as the rural men who ZAB had woken up once but then again dreamers are always naïve you see.
Where Imran Khan must differ from ZAB is by learning how to accommodate and facilitate a difference of opinions. He must realise that India is not the enemy and living by the hate rhetoric will not get us very far...

So, let's wish him luck as he is out there for revolution- a change that our nation desperately needs...

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@Bokhari

He doesn't have specialists in any field. Please tell me the name of any of his specialist, an undisputed specialist, specially in the field of Public Administration and Police. What he has is only disgruntled youth.

I completely endorse the views of Sadia. Imran is only a novice and his party members, charlatans.

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@ azeegum

As a nation we may cry for change but looking at our behaviour, we don’t really seem to actually want it.

the change is desirable , a positive one...i dont want to beat the bush but yes have to say it again dont expect it at once...give it its due time

may be i am biased at my side....as i take ZAB as my ideal....and dont find myself compromising at any least...


you said forget the rural voters...there lies the problem...you cant afford to forget them...they make 75% of your population...politics is a dirty game and it is dirty everywhere...no matter urban or a rural area...and don't even make mistake to consider as so ignorant that they sell their vote on a "plate of biryani" i am from a rural area...my father is in politics and i have seen that over the time peoole have became more conscious about their rights even in the remote areas...the now demand for their due share...

as far as anti American policy is concerned....it is not going to work...it can only work in an ideal situation....at-least Pakistan presently aint in that situation.

uhhh at last someone here share my concerns...thanks alot