The only words i have for the PML situation, reactions and statements is that they are confused, coward & stupid.

The current situation is exposing the total lackness of political sense of Nawaz Sharif. He is coward because he is afraid. and stupid because he is living in the past and confused because he dont know what he want to do. You dont find any vision or leadership.

Problem is that day by day people are getting more aware and getting more views to hear. They can get news from variety of sources. Denying a rumour without facts is not going to change people’s opinion. Making statements only without actions is not going to change people’s perception.

Now the time for actions have come. Do they really think that current government is a threat to the security of Pakistan. If so then all action should be taken, because nothing is more important than security. No government in history is ever going to say that sorry we are too corrupt so we are quitting. Come on be realistic.

If you are giving concession to the government on the name that we want to preserve democracy then

1. How many people are NOT going to believe that you are not part of the government or part of the corruption

2. and WHY people will like democracy if it does not fullfill their rights, provide them with better way of life. We dont eat democracy or martial law. People (WE) need better life, protection of their rights and social justice and social norms, whether it be in democracy or Martial Law.

Secondly people need actions, PML(N) has quite a few people in his camp which are not honest. Whose cases of corruption, terror or unlawful actions have come up in the paper and in the media. PML(N) has the best oppurtunity to do a free and fair party trial of such people and give them punishment through party and take back their seats and stop supporting them. Remember Actions always speaks louder then words. If they manage to do such thing they will not be required to make statement against Imran Khan every day.

Lastly instead of asking Supreme Court to take suo moto action against the corruption of the present government, they should themselve file cases against the government in the court. They have the resources and teams and they can show that they are really against the corruption in the government.

Lastly stop being a defender of Democracy. Democracy is not a religion for which we should focus so much. If they really work towards the increasing the quality of life for common man, people will defend it. If not then Democracy is certainly not good for Pakistan. Its the survival and the success of Pakistan that matters in the end.

http://caylu.wordpress.com/2011/11/1...d-is-in-sight/

PML-N is the only sensible party working for the salvation of democracy in Pakistan. People of Egypt, Syria, Tunis are desperate to freed themselves from the clutches of monarchy and dictatorship and to have a democratic system. Even the worst democracy is better than dictatorship. Don't you know the ground realities, why democratic governments were toppled in the past, why military has the strong desire to rule the country, why our foreign affairs are beyond the ambit of civilian legislation. Don't b confused and also don't do others

I really doubt that PML-N is playing sensible. I do have some differences with Imran Khan but when he says that all these parties are Status-Quo Parties, he is damn right. True that in the past there have been military take overs but one horrible fact to go with it is All the coups came with the express consent of the opposition of that time. Now, although there has been much of the anti-establishment stance from Nawaz, would any one explain what was the little Sharif doing with Kayani?

We have very short memory but let me just remind fellows that all the major parties have some how or the other supported and revolted against dictators with the exception of the redoubtable Nawaz. Bhutto served Ayub 8 years and then went against him. Imran supported Musharaf for 2 years and then revolted. But Nawaz, he was with Zia till his death. So it is pointless for a person who was planted, nourished, taken care of till the very end by the military to speak against it in such a tone.

It is good to remain within the constitutional limits but who stopped them from being a potent opposition. What have they done on Price hike, inflation, load-shedding?

No body is stopping them from apprehending sugar, flour hoarders in Punjab. Why are they not doing it? Why are the spending Punjab Govt funds on the today's rally and the one held on 28th last month? There are criticisms on every party that they dont have team. May i know the PML-N team in Punjab? There is only one player in the team and that is Shahbaz and thats it!

Why Nawaz never talks of taxation? Zardari regime policy of tackling militancy through military operations has failed. Imran Khan's policy of dialogue looks too simplistic! [Atleast both defend their policies]. But what is Nawaz's stance? No body knows. He never talks on such contentious issues.

So saying that he is saving the democracy is absurd. He was simply waiting for his turn but lately got jolted by Imran Khan's meteoric rise in Punjab, simple as that.

Its time that a third forces should be given chance. Whether it is PTI, MQM or any one else. But enough of Sharifs and enough of Zardari

Baseless accusations!

1) During Governer rule in 2009 PML-N conducted massive rallies notwithstanding they were powerless.
2) During last two months PML-N gathered substantial crowd in jalsa's of Sindh.

3) Shehbaz sharif meet COAS in order to enhance Pujab police Terrorism combating abilities.( Army offered its support for police which punjab police accepted)

Dear Farhan,

I am not accusing. Just presenting my point of view for Sharifs. You are right that recently they are making some headway in Sindh but I raised different objections on their policy. I didn't criticized them for not doing good in some other province in which they don't even have a seat!. I am criticizing them for being hypocrite.


Look, they talk about changing Pakistan and bla bla bla. What Plan do they have? Do they ever talk about revamping taxation system, Patwari system, Police System etc etc?

An opposition is supposed to be the alternative choice for the voters. If the opposition happens to rule on 60% of Pakistan's population, and even after the passage of 18th amendment, cannot even start small electricity projects [as after 18th amendment, provinces are empowered to start projects upto 50MW without Federal GOvt consent], then how it can claim to take Pakistan out of the energy crisis?

No doubt Shahbaz is energetic but did he plugged the gapes in the province wise electricity distribution systems which account for 30% leaks in power?

If the opposition claims to revamp economy and doesn't talk about taxation, asset declaration and conflict of interest laws, how can it guide Pakistan on prosperity?

How effectively have they controlled the prices of Sugar [Again, it is their responsibility to control prices and stop hoarding]

Ok forget about every thing. Now Nawaz is hell bent on regime change because he thinks democracy is in danger! May I ask what special has happened after 3.5 years that he thinks that now it is time for a regime change? Where was he all this time? What did he do on inflation, law lawlessness, price hike etc


So my questions are regarding opposition's role.

Now you said that

1) During Governer rule in 2009 PML-N conducted massive rallies notwithstanding they were powerless.


With all due respect, PML-N used the Lawyer's movement (infact hijacked it) to restore their own govt in Punjab. If you dont trust me, read the wikileaks on what Bryan Hunt had to say about Shahbaz. Moreover, in the long march, many parties [even PPP members like Sherry Rehman] participated, not to mention a sea of nation. But why does Nawaz always take the credit? Don't we know that it was Kayani who played his part? Yes they held rallies and they had every right but who gave him the mandate to strike a deal with govt and go back from Gujranwala? Pakistani nation went out for chief justice and he literally hijacked it!


2) During last two months PML-N gathered substantial crowd in jalsa's of Sindh.

Yes, you are right. Not only that but they also did some relief work so good job done.

3) Shehbaz sharif meet COAS in order to enhance Pujab police Terrorism combating abilities.( Army offered its support for police which punjab police accepted)


This happened for the meeting that was held on May 1, 2011, a day before OBL raid. I am talking about the hidden meeting, held in the darkness of night, which they accepted only after the video got leaked!

The fact that Nawaz thanked Anne Patterson for Kayani's appointment, PML-N is nothing but a true Zia legacy and the idea that they now try to become Gandhi of democracy and anti-establishment is indeed the height of hypocrisy.

Actually,PML(N)is not a national party,its wholly the UPPER PUNJAB based' party.Sharif brothers got media support in every era but now,media is supporting Imran Khan,whose main focus is Punajb.Thatswhy,Mian Brothers are embarrased,they dont want to undersatand the reality that Punjab is not their property.Mian sahib is demanding a commission to investigate the matter of memogate but why he is reluctant to set a commission for the inquiry of Kargil war saga?...why Shahbaz Sharif got angry over the question of his own assets during his Press Conference.?PML N is ruling over 60%of the country,how can they say they are in opposition???..in its three years rule Shahbaz Sharif has ruined the educational system of Punjab,Sasti roti scheme was totally an unrealistic programme,Punjab govt is even failed to overcome the Dengue Fever...
Maryum Nawaz has joined the politics,it means that Sharif Brothers want to introduce new faces in the next election.wait and see.....Game of Power Musical chair has begun.
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if they are coward then who is brave?at least he has uttered a few words last night regarding memo's investigation and against American influence.....Pakistan became a nuclear state in his days...so i still think that he is better than others.....at least not coward.

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@ Camran, being a member of this prestigious forum u should not be oblivious of facts.

1) Energy Sector

The scavengers of Pakistan
By Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif
Published: September 3, 2011

The writer is chief minister of Punjab
In February of this year, a new PEPCO power plant was due to become operational at Nandipur which would have supplied 450 MW of much-needed electricity to industry, agriculture and households. Unfortunately, inaction by the federal government has delayed its completion by more than two years.
In January 2008, Pepco signed a $329 million contract with Dong Fang Electric of China and paid it a 10 per cent down payment. The ministry of finance issued a sovereign guarantee for this project, on the basis of which Dong Fang put together a consortium of lenders who established a Letter of Credit for the import of the equipment. By mid-2010 much of the work at this plant was complete, the turbines were in place and it looked like the project would be finished on schedule in early 2011. This activity took place in anticipation of the ministry of law and justice approving the financial agreements and the sovereign guarantee issued by the Ministry of Finance — a routine process in such projects, normally taken as a matter of course.
Bizarrely, this was not the case here. Instead, the ministry chose to sit on the matter for over a year, despite the urgency of Pakistan’s power requirements. As a result, the lenders stopped their funding, the equipment was not cleared at the port, and the project came to a grinding halt. The remaining equipment, which consists of more than 4,500 packages of plant and machinery have since been lying in the open at Karachi port for over a year, at a demurrage cost of Rs700 million. These packages are a standing testament to inefficiency, negligence and corruption.
In the same year, a second, identical, 450MW power plant had been agreed for Chichon kee Mallian, with the same contractor, Dong Fang, and the same consortium of lenders for a contract price of $352 million (approx Rs31 billion). Here also, Pepco made a 10 per cent down payment, and the project was scheduled to be completed in February 2012. However, after the incomprehensible behaviour of the law ministry in the Nandipur project, the financing consortium refused to establish the letter of credit until all outstanding clearances were issued. As a result, the project has also been delayed by at least two years. Resuming both the projects today at current prices and exchange rates, settling claims by the contractor as well as additional financial charges, will entail an additional cost of about $200 million (approx Rs18 billion), aside from the two year delay, lost earnings through lost exports, and jobs that the higher power output would have created in the nation’s economy.
The real tragedy, though, is the delay in the nation being able to use the additional 900 MW — almost one fifth of Pakistan’s present shortage — that these two plants would have generated (bearing in mind that the economy is losing approximately 2.5 per cent of GDP on account of lack of power).
After the repeated requests of the Punjab government (although this was a project that would have benefited not just Punjab but the whole country), the prime minister has finally instructed the law ministry to approve the financial arrangements and the sovereign guarantee issued by his own ministry of finance. The ECC has had to waive the customs duties and demurrage for the equipment lying at the port, and it is hoped that these two projects undertaken by the federal government may now resume.
Above all, the ongoing damage to our economy means the loss of jobs to thousands of people, and countless hours of unnecessary, avoidable and painful load-shedding for millions of households over the next few years. As for the law ministry, it might hide its bureaucratic inefficiency over some weak pretext — after all corruption always shelters behind weak excuses. But which of the ministry’s spokespersons can justify this criminal delay in a matter so vital to the well-being of our economy!
The people must rid our country once and for all of parasites; the people must seize these looters by the collar and demand answers in the name of the generations whose futures have been so deceitfully squandered by the scavengers of Pakistan. By the pen or by the long hard road, we will save this country.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 4th, 2011.

2) Patwari System reforms

In 2009,Punjab government initiated computerize pilot project for registration of property. It is still working. Imran khan was not aware of this.

3) police reforms

Again in the same year in order to eradicate Thana culture, on the recommendation of senior police officers, he increased wages by 100%. But this exercise proved futile, now CM is showing keen interest in inducting young DSP's and SI's in punjab police through PPSC.

PML.N is a truly national party just like PPP. No one can deny the struggle of Nawaz Sharif against dictatorship and for the restoration of judiciary. If today Pakistan has got rid of Pervaiz Musharaff it is due to the efforts of PML.N and PPP. Nawaz Sharif played the role of sensible opposition and gave full support to the democratic government of PPP. Nawaz Sharif underwent tremendous hardships during Martial law. Musharraf tried his best to discredit Nawaz sharif but he failed and when Nawaz sharif came back to Pakistan people again voted his party into Office in Punjab. Musharraf now himself is begging to come back but he can find no place in this country.

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