Supreme Court’s decision on NRO & Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani - Page 2

Suman · #11 Sunday, January 15, 2012

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Originally Posted by Saleeqa Batool

Well what i believe that PPP is miserably failed to deliver on Governance Front..but those who believe Judiciary to be the only saviour of country and pursuing the right path , are mistaken.

Current Judiciary is the most powerful one in the history of Pakistan. But what CJ has done for citizenry at large ? He could have done a great serve to the people , had he improved the judicial system that exclusively falls under his jurisdiction.Please go to lower courts, see the plight of an ordinary person. Judicial officers are engaged in politics , yes politics , by maintaining good relations with strong lawyers lobbies. Relief is not given on factual grounds, rather the face of lawyer matters. President of Bar will be obliged as much as the space available in the law.

Ironically this state of affair has emerged out of attitude of higher judiciary. They owe their reinstatement to the lawyers movement so they oblige them in as much as they can. if any dispute arise amongst Bar and Bench, the higher judiciary leans towards bar and advise its subordinates to settle the dispute. Recently , an additional Session Judge, Arif Niazi, from faisalabad tendered resignation after having been maligned and disgraced by lawyers. This is not the first incident of its nature, rather it has become routine.

The perception that Judicial gun are targeting PPP whereas other issues have been held in abeyance, carries weight. If this poor nation can afford 184 serving Generals in only one arm of armed forces, than constitutionally elected Govt. must have been pardoned on the mistakes of past. The current CJ and his collogues defied their oath by lending legitimacy to Musharaf Coup , but latter on they admitted it to be their fault(violation of oath amounts to dishonesty) and pardoned themselves(this is what can be presumed).

That said, only one year is left from the tenure of incumbent Govt. They should not be lent the title of "Political Martyrs". Let them complete their term.

You are 100% right Saleeqa.i must say the role of judiciary has become controversial because of its over concentration on political cases.this role of superior judiciary will earn ultimately PPP the sympathy of masses as it will claim that it was persecuted by judiciary and military.the timing of judgment on NRO cases has also created many apprehensions in the minds of people.the independence of judiciary is not about only pursuing political cases as it seems with our superior courts.no reform has been brought to judicial system which alone can benefit masses.what we get from all this is that our judiciary has become media savvy and just want publicity by pursuing political and controversial cases.In the end PPP will be winner which should not happen.

Saleeqa Batool · #12 Monday, January 16, 2012

By virtue of its constitution , Pakistan like any other state is built on principle of trichotomy of power whereby Executive, Judiciary and Legislature serve under their constitutional domain . Functioning of all the institution is pre-requsite for socio-economic and political progress of the state. This model has driven the growth of emerging economies such as India, Brazil, South Korea. The maxim that only a leader can extricate the nation out of morass doesnt hold water in modern times. Now the wel established system is the only key to success.

Unfortunately this balance has always remained uneven in the history of Pakistan. People are kept in dark by distorting history and indoctrinating the myopic beliefs amongst the young generation.

Most of us believe that our army has no parallel amongst the world. India is our enemy. Our Politicians are solely responsible for current plight and they are the only corrupt lot, bla bla bla. until and unless this mindset is dispelled , we will keep moving in circle.

We are a security state where all the staratgic decsions are seen by the prism of security. It would not be wrong to say that army is being fed on the expense of poor people. If two decades ago, only 20 generals could command the army , why we need 184 now? Can this expense not be rationalised? Can departments that were previously headed by Colonel Level officer cant be managed by same rank officer now instead of General being appointed on such potsts.

Likewise, Judiciary should put its own house in order. Reform, Monitor and keep a check on the whole judicial system. It would be a great service to people.

Political parties have become fiefdoms. They must be established and function on democratic lines. This is the only path that lead to progress and prosperity. Every thing else is nothing short of a slogan and delusion.

asrar · #13 Tuesday, January 17, 2012

whole nation agrees with sc because this is only hope for justice in our country
and i m sure that govt will take steps against sc so that way of bunking cleans for them ...we are with cj of pakistan in the judgment of nro ... and today i was shocked when i watched in news channel there was a news that aetizaz is ehsan is selected as lawyer of pm who is busy in defencing zardari's corruptions allegations ...i used to think etizaz ehsan as honest lawyer but he broke my heart

hamen khaber hai luteron k har thikane ki

shareek e jurm na hote to mukhbri krte

asrar · #14 Tuesday, January 17, 2012

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Originally Posted by suman

You are 100% right Saleeqa.i must say the role of judiciary has become controversial because of its over concentration on political cases.this role of superior judiciary will earn ultimately PPP the sympathy of masses as it will claim that it was persecuted by judiciary and military.the timing of judgment on NRO cases has also created many apprehensions in the minds of people.the independence of judiciary is not about only pursuing political cases as it seems with our superior courts.no reform has been brought to judicial system which alone can benefit masses.what we get from all this is that our judiciary has become media savvy and just want publicity by pursuing political and controversial cases.In the end PPP will be winner which should not happen.

saleeqa ..!it doesnt mean that govt can do any thing what they want if they do wrong there will be an institute that stress on govt
thats why cj is inter faring in the politics

jab musafr he kashti ko sorakh krne main lage hue hon to main na khuda se kia gila kron......think deeply and dont mind if u are not agree

king khan jadoon · #15 Tuesday, January 17, 2012

The supreme court elaborates two main things that.

1)the six options are for court not for government

2)supreme court use word "badi un nazar",not directly make pm gillani disloyal,but to constitution.

marslanqaisar · #16 Thursday, January 19, 2012

President enjoys immunity, Gilani tells SC

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani Thursday defended himself against contempt charges before the Supreme Court (SC), refusing to apologise in a case that could see him disqualified from office if convicted.

It is only the second time that the apex court has initiated contempt proceedings against a sitting prime minister.

The court summoned Prime Minister Gilani to explain his refusal to ask Switzerland to re-open graft cases against President Asif Ali Zardari.

Giving his point of view before the seven-member bench, Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani said the president enjoys complete immunity, not only in Pakistan but also in the world as enunciated by the Constitution.

He said that he could not even think of dishonouring or disgracing the court.

PM Gilani said he appeared in person to comply with court orders that indicated his respect and honour for the court.

About writing letter to Swiss Courts for opening of the cases, the premier said the president enjoys immunity within Pakistan and abroad, therefore, he did not write letter to the Swiss court.

"It will not give a good message to proceed against a president who is elected by a two-thirds majority."

He said the leaders of PPP always respected and honoured the courts and complied with its orders.

Gilani said Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Begum Nusrat Bhutto also appeared before the courts that indicated the respect and honour of these courts by the leaders.

He said the presence of leaders of coalition partners in the court, is the reflective of their respect for judiciary.

The prime minister said Benazir Bhutto was a great leader and politician, and he was following her mission.

He said the country is united and integrated due to the 1973 Constitution that has been restored by the present government in its original form.

Justice Asif Khosa, appreciating presence of Prime Minister Gilani in the court, said it indicated that there is rule of law as the Chief Executive of the country appeared in the court.

PM Gilani along with other leaders and his Cabinet members attended the court proceedings and personally presented his point of view before the bench.

He said he and President Asif Zardari had to face imprisonment but they never did any dishonour to the courts.

During proceedings, Aitzaz Ahsan said I am here only to defend PM Gilani, not Secretary Law.

'Only Law Secretary can inform why he did not write a summary detailing the president's immunity.'

He further said that until Asif Zardari is holding the office of president, letter cannot be written to Swiss authorities as he enjoys immunity under Article 248 of the Constitution.

Supreme Court's verdict will be implemented when President Asif Ali Zardari is no longer president, said Aitzaz Ashan. This is not a normal case and need one month time to prepare, he pleaded.

Justice Khosa said the bench must be informed if anyone has immunity.

Justice Nasir-ul-Mulk remarked that these are merely preliminary proceedings and time has not come for the indictment.

Justice Usmani asked PM's counsel Aitzaz Ahsan that will the government write a letter to the Swiss authorities if it is proved that the president does not have immunity.

The court condoned the prime minister from court proceedings and adjourned the hearing till February 01

President enjoys immunity, Gilani tells SC

marslanqaisar · #17 Thursday, January 19, 2012

Case is of contempt not president’s immunity: Aitzaz Ahsan

ISLAMABAD: The counsel for Prime Minister Aitzaz Ahsan says the matter was not of the writing the letter to Swiss authorities, but rather if contempt was committed by not doing so.

Ahsan added that the prime minister sincerely believed that the president had immunity.

Aitzaz during his arguments in the contempt case said that the president enjoyed immunity under the constitution and the letter to Swiss authorities could not be written till Zardari remained president.

To this Justice Sarmad Jalal Usmani replied if the letter would be written if the court proved that the president did not have immunity.

Aitzaz asked the court for one month’s time to prepare for this case to which Justice Khosa replied that he (Aitzaz) could all the necessary records within one day.

The court ordered Ahsan to submit his reply on February 1 when the court will resume its hearing.

After concluding his arguments Aitzaz Ahsan spoke to the media outside the Supreme Court and said that it was a historic day in Pakistan that the elected prime minister appeared before the court

'Respect of courts is our prime responsibility.' President enjoys blanket immunity in this case, Ahsan added.

'The case was not of presidential immunity but now it has become such,' Ahsan said.

Case is of contempt not president

serene syeda! · #18 Friday, January 20, 2012

everybody has different point of view on this issue jitnay moo utni baatein well all we can do is to wait n watch because we live in a country where anything can happen any time.....samething/sameperson is somtimes praised a lot on ther moment he might be condemned! a complete paradigm shift!

Braveheartkhilji · #19 Friday, January 20, 2012

Its could be a dumb game for all the parties out the who they will utter words according to the size of their mouth but for us its our future at stakes!
What happned today was most likely expected because pulling legs is in the genes of a politicien. But supreme court is also playing it traditionally now that the PM has shown up at the apex court and may have spent a couple of hours but he is exempted and a new date for hearing is given, which will stretch until the next budget is approved. This is the worst democracy better than dictatorship(best), where unemployment, inflation, secterianism, nepotism, corruption, blame game, political scoring, pulling legs, and energy crisis are the skyscrapers and terrorism the burj-ul-khaleefa.

marslanqaisar · #20 Friday, February 03, 2012

'I have attended court when summoned in past, will attend again now,' says Gilani. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said Friday he will respect the outcome of Supreme Court’s move to indict him on contempt charges.

“I will go there and I will present my stance before the court,” Gilani told reporters in Lahore.
The Supreme Court on Thursday ordered Gilani to appear before it on February 13, to be indicted with contempt for failing to pursue corruption cases against President Asif Ali Zardari.
He said the matter was “sub-judice” and he should not comment on the issue, but added that he “will respect the court order” and reiterated his opposition to conflict between state institutions.
Justice Nasirul Mulk told the court Thursday there were grounds to proceed against Gilani over the government’s refusal to follow a court order and ask Swiss authorities to re-open graft cases against President Zardari.
Switzerland shelved the cases in 2008, when the president took office.
The government argued that President Zardari has immunity from prosecution while head of state and accused judges of plotting with the military to wage a witch-hunt against him.
The prime minister told parliament late Thursday he will appear in the Court.
“I have attended the court when summoned in the past and I will attend again now,” he said, adding that “everybody should follow the constitution”.

Gilani says he will respect court verdict – The Express Tribune

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