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The law enforcment agencies are not succesful in controlling the crime in our society. Is it due to lesser involvment of othr segment ov society? Discus
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The law enforcment agencies are not succesful in controlling the crime in our society. Is it due to lesser involvment of othr segment ov society? Discus
Social institutions are mainly responsible for it and especially family institution is losing its hold.

In our society,mainly economic reasons lead one to crimes.Economic institution isn't fulfilling requirements of the individuals.Unemployment leads to frustration and depression,that's why,individuals seek negative ways to overcome financial crisis.

Family institution isn't training the individuals in proper way.Elite/Upper class hasn't enough time to check activities of their kids so they get involved in crimes for thrill and adventure.Besides,weak bond of affection makes them frustrated so they take interest in such activities to satisfy their psychological deprivation.

Educational institution is also not playing its effective role.Quality of education is neglected so individuals' moral values are weak.

In short,law enforcement agencies alone can't eradicate crimes.It is always better to nip the evil in the bud and it's impossible without co-operation of other social institutions.
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here i just want to share a very meaningful sentence that
Gurbat Thzeeb K Adab bhula deti Hi
Poverty is only cause of this situtation
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The law enforcment agencies are not succesful in controlling the crime in our society. Is it due to lesser involvment of othr segment ov society? Discus
We have to sort out the cause of the crime, if it someone says prosperity or education may solve the problem then it will be a wrong perception because USA has the highest crime rate in the world. It is fear of law which may prevent someone from committing a crime and in our country Law Enforcement Agencies are demoralized owing to terrorism and politicized. Moreover, flaws in the Judicial system and corruption in the Law Enforcement Agencies added fuel to the fury. I personally believe that fear of law is the tool which can prevent the crime, as a student of the history, I have found such system in the Govt of Alla ud Din Khilji.
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it apparently looks as the law enforcement agencies are failed in controlling the crime rate but in the present scenario when almost 35 countries agencies are behind all the activities i think the present performance of our agencies is pretty good. dire need is to constitute and frame new laws for prosecution, because present laws are not meeting the criteria to curb this menace, as nobody stand as witnesses against the aggravated, and due to weak prosecution these bloody terrorist get through from the prosecution.
secondly our law enforcement agencies lack the modern techniques and equipment where as the aggrasar are equipped with modern weapons.
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Social institutions are mainly responsible for it and especially family institution is losing its hold.

In our society,mainly economic reasons lead one to crimes.Economic institution isn't fulfilling requirements of the individuals.Unemployment leads to frustration and depression,that's why,individuals seek negative ways to overcome financial crisis.

Family institution isn't training the individuals in proper way.Elite/Upper class hasn't enough time to check activities of their kids so they get involved in crimes for thrill and adventure.Besides,weak bond of affection makes them frustrated so they take interest in such activities to satisfy their psychological deprivation.

Educational institution is also not playing its effective role.Quality of education is neglected so individuals' moral values are weak.

In short,law enforcement agencies alone can't eradicate crimes.It is always better to nip the evil in the bud and it's impossible without co-operation of other social institutions.
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We have to sort out the cause of the crime, if it someone says prosperity or education may solve the problem then it will be a wrong perception because USA has the highest crime rate in the world. It is fear of law which may prevent someone from committing a crime and in our country Law Enforcement Agencies are demoralized owing to terrorism and politicized. Moreover, flaws in the Judicial system and corruption in the Law Enforcement Agencies added fuel to the fury. I personally believe that fear of law is the tool which can prevent the crime, as a student of the history, I have found such system in the Govt of Alla ud Din Khilji.

@xeric i am not cmpletly agre with u. . . Cöz acordng to me there is a difrence between litrate person and educatd person. . . An educated person is the who is wel socialzed and bond in societcl ties , and if people deviate its mean there is loop/room in there socializaton. . . Educton or school are most important socialzng agency/institute after family and peer group . . . . If a person comit crime there is failur of institute like famėly, peer group, schools, relegons. . . .

High crime rate shows the movement of
our society towards cultural
decline. This is surely very
regretful for all of us. I think this
is outcome of the
following reasons:


¤ Anomy-state of weak bondage b/
w cultural norms, values and
beliefs
Now days we see that there is not
a strong integration within
cultural norms and values which
is being a cause of deviant behavours/criminal activities

¤Low religious integration

Being Muslims, our relationship
with our religion instead of being
strong is being weak; we have
forgotten the teachings of Islam
that’s why are moving towards
decline.

¤ Lack of proper Socialization

It not only includes the family but
the peer group too so I think the criminals have a deep
association with persons having
low ethical values and beliefs and
there would be a loop hole in his
socialization by family.

¤Deep association with Western/indian
culture
The deep and strong association
of western culture is also a
biggest reason of such culturally
declining incidents. Evil always
attract human beings more than
the virtue so, how could a person
with less religious and cultural
integration can resist him/herself
by adopting it especially when it is
being presented in the form of
sugarcoated tablets. Our young
generation is specialist in
swallowing these tablets with full
zeal and zest. And the outcome is
in front of us, sometimes in the
form of suicide, sometimes rape
with the minors, and sometimes
in the form of homosexuality, target killing, gangs, mafias, bhata and
so on.
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what i think is that crimes are increasing because of the poor justice ..... our judiciary itself is a palatinate judiciary not a free one .. secondly this injustice leads to the poor faith n believe of people on judiciary when justice is too expensive and biased who will be afraid of COURTS ? POLICE n law enforcement agencies ??? kindly correct me if i am creating a wrong perception ..
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There are many factors that contribute in forming criminal mindset of individuals. First of all we don't even have a clear national definition of what is a crime and what is an unusual behavior or maybe a sin but not crime punishable by law . Such confusions create a large gap between state and society; state's laws mostly come from English common law that do not reflect society and Pakistanis often don't trust the state and take law into their own hands. Furthermore institution of judiciary is not well developed and connected with the people, this leaves the ground open for politics on daily life issues and political situation serves as 'matti pao' on such criminal conduct of the society. For example 'pasand ki shaadi' is a big issue, many people consider it a serious crime but it infact is not a crime in the law. As a consequence, people are quick to take law into their own hands in such matters and societal attitude is mostly sympathetic to offenders. Political setup sides with societal mood, and this serves in offenders' evading the law honorably . There are many examples like 'pasand ki shaadi' which are not crimes, but..... for example conversion of a muslim to non-muslim, or even close male-female friendship . There is very low near to no role of state in enforcing laws, helping, supporting and disciplining individual lives and societies (like for example there is no popular 911 service ), and therefore it mostly remains open for exploitation by exploiting politicians and generals (am I rite, I think this is because the state was setup by British for exploitation and we have continued it, so it is still doing the same job and so far nation of 'Pakistanis' has not emerged under it )

Lack of social and political knowledge of individuals is also a factor that leads to individual's isolation and thus creating a mindset that can lead to crime. What do I mean by lack of social and political knowledge would require me to do a lot of explanation , but a short explanation can be individuals are less exposed to the society in Pakistan. For example schools (atleast an overwhelming majority of them) focus highly on 'book ratta' education but don't play their role in social and organizational grooming of children, lack of clubs (sporting and other kinds of) and other facilities that could promote healthy activities and competition and instill organized behaviors in individuals causes them to remain aloof from society and remain more under influence of family; they are primarily indoctrinated by family and since not all families live in ideal conditions at home so,, you have many confused non-confident individuals who are prone to take any direction . This particular phenomenon is in urban societies, in rural areas the situation is different. Individuals are more connected with their small societies like 'bradaries' or clans. This instills in them a sense of over confidence and pride in their own particular dogmatic values. This mindset also leads to unhealthy competition for dominance and crime.

Poverty in society serves as a double edged sword. It not only motivates common individual to do crime, it also motivates law enforcer to corruption and also trigger general empathy towards the offenders. Economic procedures of a large modern society are significantly different than the old feudal one. For example in old times people used to live their whole lives in well defined boundaries. Regardless of age group all male members of family used to work and bring something home and females used to take care of home, needs were few, societies were small and well connected and resources were plenty, but the same is no longer the case. Now you are increasingly isolated and need money to feed your family, educate your children and live a reasonable life. Needs have greatly increased, and it again requires more and more money. For more money you need to work more, but the economy does not give you enough work. Therefore individuals resort to crime and corruption to fulfill their needs .

There are countless other social, political, economic and even religious (sadly) factors that serve to rise in crime, and the ideological confusion in the society often causes offenders evade the law with little or no punishment, even reward of acknowledgement in some situations (for example in the high profile case of Governor Taseer's murder) . From an overlooking point of view, the society is forced to transform from collection of many tribes and clans into a bigger modern national society. This phenomenon is, at one end, causing confusion as we don't want to abandon our old values, traditions and norms but still want to be a unified progressive nation; but on the other end each one want to enforce their values, norms and beliefs on the whole society and reject anything else. We had this country in the name of Islam, but again there is no unified ideology that can unify us under law. This confusion and insistence is not only evident in national politics, it can even be observed in our economic activities and now it has reached down to individual level and criminal conduct has increased. State is paralyzed and Pakistan has virtually landed into a state of anarchy within itself, and God knows where this all will lead to. Until now it doesn't look like Pakistanis are evolving in the right direction
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