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If Christians don't promote hate then how 20th Century Church Atrocities (like Catholic extermination camps, Catholic terror in Vietnam or Rwanda Massacres etc) happened?

How all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US? Why 'The National Liberation Front' of Tripura is known an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people? Why the National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'?

How The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community, Hutaree, The Lord's Resistance Army, matabrujos, The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), The Manmasi National Christian Army (MNCA), The Orange Volunteers, Klu Klus Klan are nasty examples of Christian militancy and terrorism?

He, Pope Benedict XVI, launched a blistering attack on "atheist extremism" and "aggressive secularism” in his Britain visit, he announced a 'War against Secularism'.

He, Benedict XVI who issued an anti-condom doctrine (2005) that was a sabotage in fight against Aids.

Children been abused, religion was misused, human beings been slaughtered in the name of Holy God, Papal infallibility (a dogma of the Catholic Church which states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error).

Above few (indeed they are just few examples - not all) do indicate that Christians are also extremists, no doubt, but they being the competitors of Muslims should be neglected and their extremism should not be considered a logic to have our one.

I think we, Muslims, should focus on our deficiencies highlighting, confession of our failures and realise the ultimate need of some serious work on our evolution.


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No doubt Christians have their past with full of brutality but sir this is not the time to pin point or gave life to those allegations which are almost vanish.
We should have to wash our hands first..
No one is infallible there but sir what would be the difference if we even do the same like 'just throwing their bad deeds on them' ..That would certainly not call us innocent but the new fire of hostility will ignite and they can even fabricate thousands of brutal acts done by Muslims no matter they would be arranged by them but the world will listen to them as they are in power..
it's not they it's we who are now de track from the path our beloved Prophet(pbuh) not just advised us but forced us to walk on..
As a Muslim I would prefer me and my nation responsible for all happening around us..because it's we who gave them right path to destroy us..
Neither we are united, neither we are trustworthy, neither we can stop ourselves to intervene in sectarian fights then why we are criticising our enemies?why we are blaming them? Lol we are not even capable to help our brethren who are dying in Palestine.. Our religion is just confine to our name now..
So Our leaders should ponder and should realise the apprehensions flying on us..
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No doubt Christians have their past with full of brutality but sir this is not the time to pin point or gave life to those allegations which are almost vanish.
We should have to wash our hands first..
No one is infallible there but sir what would be the difference if we even do the same like 'just throwing their bad deeds on them' ..That would certainly not call us innocent but the new fire of hostility will ignite and they can even fabricate thousands of brutal acts done by Muslims no matter they would be arranged by them but the world will listen to them as they are in power..
it's not they it's we who are now de track from the path our beloved Prophet(pbuh) not just advised us but forced us to walk on..
As a Muslim I would prefer me and my nation responsible for all happening around us..because it's we who gave them right path to destroy us..
Neither we are united, neither we are trustworthy, neither we can stop ourselves to intervene in sectarian fights then why we are criticising our enemies?why we are blaming them? Lol we are not even capable to help our brethren who are dying in Palestine.. Our religion is just confine to our name now..
So Our leaders should ponder and should realise the apprehensions flying on us..
Respected brother, you are very right.

The purpose of my post was 'not at all' blaming them but to counter their allegations 'Islam was spread by Sword, Islam is a religion of terror or Islam is an outdated religion that promotes hatred etc'.

The core message from my side was obvious "their extremism should not be considered a logic to have our one. I think we, Muslims, should focus on our deficiencies highlighting, confession of our failures and realise the ultimate need of some serious work on our evolution."


I have had several debates here with Christians and I found the core problem is 'Media' that is posing Islam as religion of terror.

The strategy 'Politics of fear' worked well in past when Soviet was on its last legs but portrayed as 'it could dominate the world'.

Unfortunately the same policy has been opted for 'Islam' to gain political, financial and strategical benifits across the globe. Global players are very good in playing this game and they used the very same tool for Islam just to implement their global agenda.

What is Alqaida? Is it true 'No Alqaida ever existed' ? Is it a mythical symbol by 'Mighty West' ?

What is FSA? Who engineered, recruited, financed, trained and sent them to Syria?

Who are Afghan terrorists? The world has very short memory 'The same bunch of Afghan fighters were named as Freedom fighters, source of inspiration and Mujahideen' not more than 2 decades before.

What happened in Middle East? Who financed the interruptions? Who hijacked the revolutionary movements? Were they really movements for 'revolution' ?

International media is repeatedly publishing, “All Muslims are not terrorist but all terrorists are Muslims”. What we supposed to do if we been declared as 'part of problem' instead of being called 'part of solution' ?

Facts reveal that the world has Christian terrorists, Catholic terrorists, Jewish terrorists, Hindu terrorists, Muslim terrorist, Buddhist terrorists, Sikh terrorists and secular terrorists as they professing various different faiths.

Human lust for power always encouraged exploitations (religious, social or financial) that caused the most of bloodhsed spilled ever.

We are meant to 'be literate' as knowledge seeking is obligatory to every Muslim but what are the statistics showing our literacy?

We have the only unaltered Holy Divine Scripture on the face of earth i.e. 'Quran' which speaks in more than 1000 verses about Science. How advance we are in field of Science?

Quran is the only book that purely satisfies the established science and fully compatible with modern age of this century. Even not a single verse is there out of more than 1000 verses that is against Modern Established Science. How familiar we are with 'Holy Quran' ?

Famous saying 'Might is Right' tells us about the answer of every possible question coming to our mind on this dual standardization by the 'Mighty players'. When we were 'Might', we implemented our world order. Now 'West' is 'Might' so let them do their job.

Opt listening attitude, highlight your deficiencies, confess your failures and work hard on yourself if you want to have your voice 'heard'.


The purpose of this posting is 'not at all' discouraging 'West' (I have included US in the term West) - or - 'sticking to our outdated approach' .

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have exact number to be known plz.
Brother I could not understand your question properly, would you be good enough to ask again in clear sense?


As per BBC News of 29 November 2012, Dutch authorities have decided to approve a motion abandoning a law under which it is a crime to insult God. Freedom of speech is a much-cherished right in the liberal and traditionally tolerant Netherlands.

The funny part is:

"However, it still remains illegal under Dutch law to be disrespectful to police officers or to insult Queen Beatrix, the country's monarch."

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20530428
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