Originally Posted by FAIRUFF

Dear Sincere khan, I want to quote something, your words from an other thread of you, let me quote :

Come and Join IK
I am a medical student and so is my elder brother. My elder brother who is a gold medalist doctor in USA wanted to work and serve in a changed Pakistan where the system is for its people but sadly had to leave this country, because Pakistan is governed by corrupt politicians.
But today we have a leader Imran Khan and this chance to make him Prime Minister so he can make our country what we really want it to be, and then I don't leave this country like my brother and many other talented people had to and serve my people in a better system and i am sure that only Imran Khan can do this so i stand with IK and participated in all rallies he did on Minar e Pakistan and now in this Azadi march Dharna Lahore at Lalik Jan Chawk.
Hope that we can make this country where justice prevails and it gets developed and then next generation open its eyes in a real independent Islamic welfare state of Pakistan. Aameen!


Would you please like to explain a little bit more for us, because your these two statements are quite contrary to each other, aren't they?

Originally Posted by sincer khan

My dear there is no religious violence in other islamic countries LIke Saudi, UAE, Turkey, Iran, Kuwait, except Syria and iraq because there are two group sunnis and shias, they busy to kill each other. while in our country situation is different because 97% of muslim population, but there are subgroup like Braveli, Tableghi, Wahabi, Deobandi, etc. these all are against each other, they called each other "KAFIR" so this is main reason that i want a secular Pakistan

A secular state is a concept wherein a state or country promotes itself to be officially neutral in the matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligious. It is independent of religion. All citizens are treated equal regardless of their religion and avoid being biased for a citizen of a particular religion. The government frees people from all the rules and teachings of religion. The government is not influenced by religion; it does include religion while making decisions for the state. The lack of religion in a state does not make it secular. Secular states become secular by the establishment of the state, It does not include religion in politics.

Originally Posted by FAIRUFF

I agree with you on the point that in a true Islamic country, minorities will get their due rights but my question is, whether you want to see minorities getting their rights in a state whose religion is Islam or you want to make Pakistan a secular state, because, in your previous comments you were in support of a real Islamic state under ik but now you are struggling for a secular state. What were the reasons that compelled you to change your thoughts?

Originally Posted by sincer khan

secularism is a part of islam...

Originally Posted by sincer khan

In Islam it is your duty that you will follow your own religion but you will give equal respect to other religious. insulting of other religious is not allowed in islam.. therefore PROPHET(PBUH) had many NOn muslim Friends .

Originally Posted by sincer khan

Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people

Originally Posted by sincer khan

So it told you that Secularism is part of Islam but there are few peoples. they think that secularism is totally against Islam. they don't know the meaning of secularism that what is secularism.. our pakistan will become a real welfare islamic state then it mean there will be justice and Peace. every religious people well living freely.
Insha Allah WE and IK will do

Originally Posted by sincer khan

there must be an extra operation against them, like Bangladesh and Egypt where they arrested and killed all those leaders who were speaking against country and were creating religious violence

Originally Posted by Rehman

no, the persecutions on JI in bangladesh and muslim brotherhood in egypt were due due to political reasons.

Originally Posted by Monk

Islam is a pure and superior stuff shouldn't be mixed in dirty Politics. Quaid was a great man but his thoughts were limited to his era. We should carve out an ideology which suits our needs.Secular State according to me is the salvation otherwise we'll doom forever.

Originally Posted by waqas izhar

can you please enumerate the differences between Quaid's Era and today?

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