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yes i'm blindly agree with kashif now both the country should throw the arms and shak the hand of hormonos and make the both nation to be stronger
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These are all Pakistan Armed forces tactics, they exactly know that they are loosing their authority over civilians, Nawaz is determined to give them tough time. Military is in limbo because once Indian threat is eliminated by making strong friendly ties with them setting aside the lame issue of kashmir, then they (Military) would have no reason to say in civilian matters, we would no more need to spend billions on so called National security. Ironically Military still perceive India as the biggest threat than the TTP.

and one more thing, Pakistan military put a blame on Indian Military and Indian military on Pakistan military and same goes to both country so called patriot media. so we will never know what happened actually unless and untill those Generals are reigned!
While this is true that there are certain elements present in both countries who do not want peace efforts to bear fruit, throwing the whole garbage on Pak Army is wrong.

According to Pakistan Army's statistics india has voilated the ceasefire agreement over 190 times this year alone. India accuse pakistan of 58 voilations. This shows who is more agressive.

The need of the hour is that, both countries should work jointly to foil the efforts of those who do not want peace in these beligrent nations. The current talk for peace must not be put in abeyance due to these incidents.

P.S: COAS categorically stated in his speech on Yoam-e-Shuhada that TTP is the biggest threat to Pakistan not India.
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While this is true that there are certain elements present in both countries who do not want peace efforts to bear fruit, throwing the whole garbage on Pak Army is wrong.

According to Pakistan Army's statistics india has voilated the ceasefire agreement over 190 times this year alone. India accuse pakistan of 58 voilations. This shows who is more agressive.

The need of the hour is that, both countries should work jointly to foil the efforts of those who do not want peace in these beligrent nations. The current talk for peace must not be put in abeyance due to these incidents.

P.S: COAS categorically stated in his speech on Yoam-e-Shuhada that TTP is the biggest threat to Pakistan not India.
Just because the "Commando" said so does not mean that it actually translates into the army's policy. We all know how dubious our army is.
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Once " Reuters" asked Narendra Modi ( Likley to be new chief executive of India) " Do you regret what happened in Gujrat which caused thousands of Muslims' Causalities?

NM: "if we are driving a car or someone else is driving a car and we’re sitting behind, if a puppy comes under the wheel, will it be painful or not? Of course it is. If I’m a chief minister or not, I’m a human being. If something bad happens anywhere, it is natural to be sad".

These 3 point could be cause of this untimely escalation at indomitable LOC (According to my View):

1.Its a Election Stunt to fetch votes. Such type of perverse mindset prevails on both side of Ind-Pak borders which halts Peace to revisit this region.

2. India is probably the World Champion in Superstitions & False Beliefs. Indian Army has been guided by their renowned Pundits that make Pakistan impuissant in 2013 as much as they have potency otherwise she would become invincible.


3. Pakistan is bleeding due to internal lethal issues which give arch rivals a opportunity to hit the headlines.

Its high time for us to introspect before its too late. We have to set our home in order to avoid any ensuing debacle.
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it can never be (neutrally) ascertained who triggered the chain of events, however some peoples and interests on both sides of the border are benefitting from this situation
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i think its the routine practice from both sides to uplift patriotism in both side nations during august month .
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My respectable fellow...!besides considering this discussion as "selfishness" to prepare for competitive exams..no one can deny this perspective that it has develop interest in youth to express their views regarding current situation.. which is the need of hour.....As i had least interest in current affairs...but after taking part at this forum...Now a keen interest has developed in me.. Each topic explores several dimensions to discuss on....Anyhow, i dont want to distract more from the topic....


Coming to the discussion, in my opinion, third power will take away the benefit of this destabilization as this is a year of U.S withdrawal from Afghanistan. As far as peace of the region is concerned, no matter, how much we talk about "MFN" & remind India about "Aman Ki Asha", India will never come to the dialogue properly because this is the year of their election that's why they will remain the same, inspite of our endless struggle for strategical dialogues.

Besides this, Our Focal point should be our internal crises. Only then we shall be able to deal with this situation as a nation....Internal crises to such extent only provoke foreign hands to use such threats as tactics.
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I think it is now a natural phenomena that when elections become near in both countries Pakistan and India so those political parties who are in power use such kind of tactics to show their nation that they are very loyal to their countries. In most if we see the situation so common people of both countries are not in favor of war it is just our leaders who use this for their election campaign. It is time now that both nation should think realistically to understand where they go wrong and why they need a war.
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In most if we see the situation so common people of both countries are not in favor of war it is just our leaders who use this for their election campaign
Mr Nawaz Sharif is still trying to solve this situation by dialogues but indian politicians are creating situation for war, in my view!
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Mr Nawaz Sharif is still trying to solve this situation by dialogues but indian politicians are creating situation for war, in my view!
Indian politicians show this kind of aggression when their elections comes but its not mean that if they use such kind of tactics so our leadership should also pursue a strong foreign policy and convey their messages about the Indian aggression to International community. But sadly our politician show laziness and weakness which make our point of view more weak in international community. As in the case of Mumbai Attacks our leaders did not show any concerns on it and that's why international community did not give any attention to the said issue
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