Yes, Of course! but in different sense than Western Modol of Democracy...We'll discuss it in detail a bit later...thanks

Dear fellows if we analyze Islamic approach to Political System then it tends more towards democracy rahter to oligarchy. At the time of advent of Islam the Arab world has no sense of central political system, different tribes fought each other thus no harmony persists in the society. Actually the problem is Islam doesn't consider a vote by a thief or murderer equivalent to an innocent nature person and its very right attribute of Islamic Political system.
Infact the egalitarian nature of Islam requires major reforms in the way democracy is practiced in the society today. As it stands, the existing democracy is elitist and lopsided in favor of the wealthy, the powerful, and the special interests. The average person almost has no meaningful say in how things are run by the elite.
According to my poor analysis the prospect for the emergence of true democratic society depends on the characteristics of the people who form that society in the first place. The better educated, disciplined and more organized the people, and the more broadly these resources are spread, the stronger will the society be in protecting itself from domination by the Elite. Moreover, these resources allow for the formation of institutions that act as the focus of activity where differences in opinions and policies can be debated and resolved without resort to violence. So strengthening the system is much healthier to strengthning the elite people, which is true sense of democracy and Islam potray the same structure of society. If we took a narrow glimpse of First 4 Khalifas, this fact will must come under observation that all Khalifah(R.A) commited to strengthen the institution that automatically cause more accountability and people participation in Government policies. I would like to Quote here the saying of Hazrat Umar Farooq(R.A) "If even a dog die in thirst of water under my reign i would be answerable". To conclude my point i will end up with the verse of iqbal;
Juda hoo Deen siyaassat say to rah jaati hay changezi

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Dear Najabt
My humble opinion is that __ We must not mix both system, each has contradictory rules n regulations to run a country. We must be crystal clear to choose one of them. If we try to harmonise both, it could play havoc.
1 question I wanna to put
Y we want islamic system n democracy at the same time?
Waiting for ur fruitful replies.

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I have already posted two posts in this thread, but the last few posts have compelled me to post another one. As I have said, that Islam does not provide any fix political system, but instead let it to the people and the age to decide for theirselves a system as is evident by the term 'bil maaroofa' in Quran. So in my view, an democracy is not against islam if all the laws passed by parliament are according to sharia. As some brothers/sisters insist that Islam has a fixed political system and which is not in accordance with democracy. So you people please elaborate in concrete words what is an Islamic Political System? How is a leader chosen/elected in an Islamic State? How were the first four caliphs and Hazrat Mu'aviya chosed/elected? Please quote from history and Quran wa sunnah.

Talib-e-Dua,
still thinking,

Islam actually introduced the concept of democracy..what do u actually mean by democracy...That it is governmnt of the ppl,for the ppl,by the ppl....and that ppl should have the right to elect their own representatives.Well both these principles were practiced during the time of the khilafat...specially during the khilafat of the first four khulafa-e-rashideen.The Calif was elected by the ppl from amongst the elders,scholars of the society.That was an ideal type of government.While Zia-ul haq's interpretation of democracy is nothing but an extremist's outlook regarding life and religion.

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It is not only mullahs, but also the military, politicians, and bearucracy who are using the religion as a tool to subjucate these innocent masses. Karl Marx was not too wrong when he accused the upper classes for using a religion for their own benifit. Here in Pakistan the upper classes are using religion for their own rule and for the sake of uniting the federation.... which is thing is not good.

Please go and re-read the history of Khulafa-e-Rashideen. First they all were selected by differnt methods, often after a lot of disputes. Caliph Umar(Raziallahu Anhu) was chosen by Caliph Abubakar(RZA). After his death, the selection of caliph Usman(RZA) was not agreed upon by Caliph Ali(RZA). And we know all the history after the death of Caliph Usman(RZA).

Anyhow, you are right in case of Zia.

regards,

Just read the following comments by "prieti" and see if there is a contradiction. To me, there is. So would you please explain your point a bit....

Concentration of power in the hands of the ruler means oligarchy, not democracy. Interestingly, both you and prieti are are using the same thing, Islam, for your arguments.

Yes dear you are right. This really is a problem because who after all is going to decide about who is "an innocent nature person" and who is not...

Agreed.....

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Though I am sceptic if democracy can't be practised within the domain of Islam, but the most important prerequisite for doing so i.e. sincerity on the part of religion's bigwigs and a belief in a sort of "altruistic human nature" smacks of utopian idealism, to which I don't subscribe.

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well, as far as'' western democracy'' is concerned,if some people think it is in contradiction to Islamic teachings.....then,well and good.It,s no loss for muslims....
why we should feel regret for such kind of democracy.......??
what has given such kind of government to western society....people say we like such and such things and since there is prevailing ''great western democracy'',government has to act according to peoples demand.so if majority of people is in favour of some thing,rulers can,t do anything.whether such things are good for public or not and their results are disastrous......that,s happening in such socities.since people are in favour of liquor,everyone knows it,s dangourous,but government and leaders should keep their mouth shut......
people like to go in nightclubs...etc and the results of such activities are dangerous and disastrous .Govt knows ,leaders knows ,but they can do nothing in such democratic socities.
since people say they are not interested anymore in religion,govt can do nothing.....and what their spiritual emptiness has made of them??
what kind of terrible bills are passed in such democracies because of sheer pressure of public , and govt representatives ,who are well aware of it that these things will one day destroy the society ..... are helpless
It,s much much better that supreme power should be ALLAH,And in islamic state,govt act and decide issues according to teachings of religion .......and not according to demand of people that can lead the whole country in a pit .Because ,common people would want the things seems to them so charming but only wise representative can decide according to teachings of ALLAH and HOLY PROPHET(pbuh)whether it,s good for them or not and whether its ultimate results would be good for public or not....
so fear of ALLAH is very necessary for keeping people on right track...