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You're right brother, but educational system emerge for fulfilling the requirements of a society, in other words, education is part and parcel of your societal system. So where the public is composed of senseless lot, you can't change the attitude of your people towards their fellow beings. Whatever arguments you forward no matter how strong that may be but the problem still persists that it's the muslims who violates fasting code. Actually, they have been exploiting this Holy month for their selfish interests which is a condemnable attitude on part of them. And one thing more, Martin Luther King Jr., has said that you don't need a degree in Political Science, Law etc., for serving other humans, what you need is a heart full of agony for the plight of others. I still believe that majority of the Muslims are observing fast as a ritual and tradition not fast for the sake of fast. Regards
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still better than not fasting at all...
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ADIL KHESHGI (Saturday, July 05, 2014) |
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Those who're keeping fast for other objectives than to please the Almighty, may be called hypocrites and even a Kafir is better than a hypocrite. Regards
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Mr Waqas your arguments are cogent but this discussion seems to be going nowhere. My concluding bit is that permanent solution and building social morals through education is essential and good but............
but the fact is simply in the words of economics Increased Demand means Increased Price. In this Godforsaken land people do fast and pray and do charity but they do not forget to implement demand supply laws. The only solution that remains then is to control prices and implement price ceilings. Plus we need to workout something better than subsidies to cure this illness of our society and economy. |
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Mr Adil I would say it is not a ritual to fast, people fast for seeking blessings, the only issue is that they separate religion from worldly affairs. To show off piety we don't need to fast, we can simply pretend to fast and eat within precincts of our home so its not a ritual at all. The issue is that we believe we are feeling for poor, we are helping them through food, clothing etc and we are praying etc so the purpose is served. Fasting teaches Sabar and we are learning that too, we are avoiding sins and backbiting too. You see what is the missing link? We exclude our business from the picture completely. We are selling at higher prices simply because profit margin is to be maintained. Our hoarding and price hikes are the market norm and we can't help against it. notice that religious teachings are nowhere in such arguments. Simple as that.
To conclude we need to learn the application of religious teachings in our worldly affairs. We need to learn to create balance between ibaadat and muamlaat rather than treating them separately. |
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plus price ceiling and hoarding are both forbidden by the prophet S.A.W. regards Quote:
so may be called hypocrites. usually we do not perform salat because we think we are hypocrites. funny because salat is the cure for hypocrisy , and you might be confusing hypocrisy with gregariousness regards |
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ADIL KHESHGI (Sunday, July 06, 2014) |
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(gr -gâr - s) adj. 1. Seeking and enjoying the company of others; sociable. See Synonyms at social. 2. Tending to move in or form a group with others of the same kind: gregarious bird species. 3. Botany Growing in groups that are close together but not densely clustered or matted. [Latin greg rius, belonging to a flock, from grex, greg-, flock; see ger-inIndo-Europeanroots.] gre·gar i·ous·ly adv. gre·gar i·ous·ness n. Would you please like to enlighten us more about this term and its relation with hypocrisy??
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waqas izhar (Sunday, July 06, 2014) |
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a hypocrite may be(according to your definition of gregarious) a social individual,who tends to move in flock of the same kind and who is close to others but not densely clustered. |
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that might include pretensions on his part. and pretensions leads to artificiality. if a guy is artificial and not real (he is pitiable) he might be mistaken for a hypocrite. but i think genuine hypocrites are very rare. moreover the Quran (as far as i know) has not mentioned any hypocrite by name. if you want to know whether you are a hypocrite then there is a simple test. if you think are a hypocrite, then you aren't! might sound paradoxical but it is true. every human being has weaknesses. every human is gregarious. every human wants to be praised. the levels vary among individuals. all we ought to do is identify these weaknesses in us and curb them. so the next time you think you are a hypocrite and so you should not go to the mosque, you are wrong! anything else? |
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