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Assalam o alaikum....

A Question is Roaming in my mind.....out of my beyond due to lack of knowledge..... do u have any idea or reference to make a satisfactory answer.

Question is

Allah Ne 7 Assman kyu Banaye
Allah Ne 7 Zameen Kyu Banayee
Haftay mein 7 Din Kyu Hain
Quran e Pak mein 7 Manzil Kyu hain
Dunya mein 7 Barr e Azam kyu hain
Qaus-e-Qaza k 7 Colour kyu hain
Tawaf-e-Khana Kabaa mein 7 Chakar he kyu
Shetan ko 7 kankriya he kyu mari jati hain

7 he kyu 8 ya 6 kyu nahi
What is the logic behind 7....... Shyed issi liye loug 7 ko lucky Number kehty hain.......
plz answer

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I dont know the rational behind it, but there is something....
Yes we also want the answers of the above asked questions.
off course there should be logic behind that setting of SEVEN (7).


waiting......................... for ............. logical......... answers.........

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If you want a logical answer then I am sorry.
However this is what I think about your query...

Quote:
Allah Ne 7 Assman kyu Banaye
Allah Ne 7 Zameen Kyu Banayee
Kyn k 7 he bananay thay..

Quote:
Haftay mein 7 Din Kyu Hain
Mahinay main 7 haftay nahi hain 4 hain.. saal main 7 mahinay nahi 12 hain..

Quote:
Quran e Pak mein 7 Manzil Kyu hain
Quran k 30 paray hain 7 nahi.. 114 Surahs hain.. 6666 ayat hain 7777 kyn nahi....

Quote:
Dunya mein 7 Barr e Azam kyu hain
Dunia main 5 oceans kyn hain?

Quote:
Qaus-e-Qaza k 7 Colour kyu hain
Tawaf-e-Khana Kabaa mein 7 Chakar he kyu
Shetan ko 7 kankriya he kyu mari jati hain
Namazien 5 kyn hain 7 kyn nhi..
Arkan e islam 5 kyn hain 7 kyn nhi..
Khulaf e rashdeen 4 kyn hain 7 kyn nahi..
Asmani kitabien 4 kyn hain 7 kyn nahi????

Quote:
7 he kyu 8 ya 6 kyu nahi
8 ya 6 is leay nahi k phir ap kahte k 7 kyn nahi hain...

Quote:
Shyed issi liye loug 7 ko lucky Number kehty hain.......
mera lucky num to 12 hai....

These are argumnets for the sake of argumnets
Anyhow I think 7 num is repeated a number of times but we can find repetitions in other counts as well.

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person above me posted a good response, as it does not have any logic but the answers are ebullient.

now luminary minds of the forum are requested to come up with logical / reasoning answers if available.
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Here's what I found

Islamic Seven

THE SYMBOLISM OF THE NUMBER SEVEN IN ISLAMIC CULTURE AND RITUALS
Mehnaz Sahibzada

Introduction
Most cultures of the world hold certain numbers to be especially significant, even symbolic, and this is reflected in their religions. In the Abrahamic traditions, which originate in the Middle East, the number seven is of particular importance. Some of its significance stems from the ancient Sumerian and Babylonian civilizations, which identified seven planets and framed seven days of the week around them. Very early among Middle Eastern peoples, seven became known as a "perfect" number, symbolic of completeness and goodness. This essay will examine particularly the significance of seven-symbolism in Islamic culture and religion.

History
The miraj or Ascension story of the Prophet Muhammad (d. 632 C.E.), the Prophet of Islam, is of particular importance in reference to the miraculous nature of the number seven. According to Muslim tradition, the Prophet Muhammad ascended into the seven heavens during his lifetime in Jerusalem, either physically or spiritually, and came into direct contact with the divine. This is the reason why Jerusalem is one of the three important holy sites for Muslims (in addition to Mecca and Medina), and why The Dome of the Rock, a commemorative octagon building divided into seven separate panels, was built to honor the event. This story, also mentioned in the Qur'an is a favorite among Muslims, and may be one of the reasons for the popularization of the number seven in Islamic societies.

Numerous examples may be cited to illustrate how Muslims reinforce the significance of the number seven in practice and belief. For example, when Muslims perform the tawaf or circumambulation around the Ka'ba in Mecca, they walk around it seven times. During the yearly Muslim pilgrimage, or Hajj, Muslims stone the statues of the devils three times using seven stones in each round. Also in the Hajj, the seven-fold run between Safah and Marwah indicates its importance. The fundamental expression of Muslim faith, the shahada, testifying to the fact that "There is no God but God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God" is composed of seven words in Arabic.

There are seven styles of Arabic calligraphy. omit that -it's contentious among Muslims The number seven is important to the belief system and cyclical view of time held by the Ismaili Shi'a Muslim sect, also known as the Seveners. In Sufism, or Islamic mysticism, ascetics model their sevenfold path to enlightenment after the Prophet Muhammad's Ascension into the seven heavens. The number seven, in addition to being incorporated into art and children's stories, such as "The Seven Voyages of Sinbad" from the popular Arabian Nights, also turns up time and again in rite of passage ceremonies to protect oneself from evil spirits. For example, a wedding ritual in Pakistan involves seven happily married wives touching the bride's wedding dress to ensure a happy marriage.

Religious Significance
The number seven is a key symbol in many Muslim cultural productions, both secular and religious, including art, architecture, folklore, literature, and ritual practices. There are approximately twenty-five references made to the number seven in the Qur'an the sacred text of Muslims. These references usually concern the seven heavens, the seven periods of creation, seven groups of things, or seven individuals, such as the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus. An allusion made to the number seven in the Qur'an typically includes references to God as the all-powerful creator. Thus, the number seven is directly linked to the power of the divine and has great symbolic value as an expression of Muslim belief and the miracles of God.

Comparisons to Other Religions
The importance of the number seven can be seen in numerous cultural and religious traditions worldwide, such as the near-ubiquitous seven-day week which comes from the ancient Near East and has been spread throughout the world by the three Abrahamic religions.. In Judaism and Christianity, there are the seven days of creation, and in Christianity seven deadly sins and seven cardinal virtues. In Judaism, the Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, is considered a sacred day, and seven is also a key number in Jewish mysticism. The number seven is also important for Zoroastrians because it is seen as the perfect union between man and woman and the spiritual and material (the number three in reference to the masculine tri-part spiritual-soul, body, mind-and the number four in reference to the feminine material elements--earth, air, fire and water).

Source
http://www.wadsworth.com/religion_d/...s/islamic.html

and there's an interesting wikipedia article at the following link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_(number)

Hope this satisfies your curiosity to some extent

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Well before being a part of this discussion, I used to believe as per my own observation, that num 3 is significant in Islam.

Prophet Mohammad SAW used to repeat any significant phrase three times when he was to emphasize something.
During ablation (wuzu), as per sunah he wash three times each body part that needs to be washed.
We repeat ‘Subhaana Rabbiyal-Azeem’ (Pure is my Lord, the Great) and ‘Subhaana Rabbiyal Aalaa’ (Pure is my Lord, the Supreme) in ruku and sajda respectively.
Ramzan has three ashras.
One has to fast for three days if (s)he breaks a promise.
A Muslim is asked three times in nakah and as a witness.

And the list goes on....
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There is no special significance attached to numbers in Islam. Quran is one, the Morning Prayer consists of two rakats, there are three satans, Namaz-e-Zohr consists of four rakats, there are 5 ‘Ulul Azm’ Prophets and so on. There is nothing auspicious or sacredness attached to numbers.
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In my observation Islam assigns special importance to prime odd numbers i.e. 3, 5, and 7 etc.
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I dont believe tht there is any importance of number 7 or any other number in general or in Islam specially.... yah Number 7 is quite common and many people believe it as lucky number. it just superstitious...

in Islam Action is important and "intention" (Nee'yat) is the most important factor of success or failure of any act instead of number of time the act is taken. Every number is important in Islam such as ..

No. 0 as there is no God but Allah
No. 1 as Allah is "Wahid" wahad-hu-la-sharik-Allah-hu
No. 2 as 2 Farz in Fajar prayers and 2 Farz in Qasar prayers
No. 3 as 3 Farz in Maghrib and 3 witir in Isha prayers
No. 4 as 4 Farz in Zohar, Asar and Isha prayers
No. 5 as 5 prayers in a day and five pilers of Islam
No. 6 as 6 pilers of faith (Iman)
No. 7 as u said but sorry i cant found any importance of No. 7 in Islam it may be ritual to use 7 as lucky or else.

My questions: is there any scientific proof that there are 7 Aaasmaans and 7 Zamins or this mentioned in Quran?
Any one plz answer me with reference… Thanks
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My questions: is there any scientific proof that there are 7 Aaasmaans and 7 Zamins or this mentioned in Quran?
Any one plz answer me with reference…
"He it is who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things".
(Surah Al-Baqrah : Ayat 25)


Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.
(Surah At Talaq : Ayat 12)


As far as I know Science at this time doesn't believe that heaven exists.
Out of the reach of our worldly knowledge at present..............
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