cross purposes and crooked answer.By the by Science isn't a method etc,it's a study of nature.Whatever you just said is your innovation,i didn't say anything even close to that.And I seriously don't want to trifle in trifle discourse.

I did mean to say that the topic is trifle etc,I just want not to be involved in science-black magic dialogue.Rest of discussion is very informative in itself.

The pleasure is all yours.

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It is the duty of every Muslim man and woman to seek knowledge (Sahih Muslim)

Someone please cite some empirical evidence in support of the existence of black magic.

Imagine that a person comes to you from the South Pole. He has no knowledge of the Abrahamic religions and he has no concept of the supernatural. How will you empirically prove to him that black magic definitely exists keeping in mind the fact that he disputes the divinity of the Abrahamic scriptures?

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He conquers who endures.

we do not need to prove this to him it's a part of faith, just like u can't make anyone see God, but His signs. similarly, u can't prove the tangibility of magic (black magic kuch nahi hota.magic hota hi black/dark ilm ha.

Magic is not a kind of science that is established on some principles, theories and verifiable observations. But, it exists as it is mentioned in Quran. I don't have personal experience of watching some black magic. However, I have personally seen the "Moakals" effect on a person (that person happens to be one of the most closest relatives of mine and I was there sitting besides him when moakil entered his body, all i mean to say is, that person is not a lier and also not some psychic patient). Before that I didn't believe in Moakals.

The aamil told me that these moakils are jins and they have their own limitations and sometimes even they lie just like humans do. That aamil was not some kind of Baba, rather he was an educated guy.

That aamil told him a Quranic wazifa, and after some time doing that wazifa, he started to see unexplainable things, not in dreams, but with open eyes. He became much afraid and quited that wazifa and came to normal state after some time.

It is certainly true that there are a lot of liers, claiming to do such and such things. But, at least there are genuine people that can do what they say.