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These days criminal neligence cases are increasing day day..what are its causes..??recently, in DHQ Muzaffargarh,a photographer Khalid Majeed died because doctors didnot pay any attention towards him..Dr Hamid Ghouri,Dr Amir are responsible for his untimely death..donot you people think that after Jinnah hospital' sad incident,doctors and media men are used to beat one another..this trend is really alarming..how we can avoid this situation??doctors'long duty hours,low salaries or intolerance are aggravating this situation..?
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I happened to Civil Hospital several days for Medical Certificate and visited casualty where emergency cases are handled. Doctors posted in causality not only have the responsibility to treat patients in emergency but also to issue medico legal certificate MLC, countersigned by police surgeon and summoned in courts in medico legal cases.

At morning along with doctor I we went to police surgeon office and many certificates were awaiting for that doctor, including death certificates; corpses examined by doctor. Doctor was made many mistakes while filling the medal certificate, he used blanko several times, and reason was that he was in dire need of rest, he was on duty for about 14 hours, and then he had to attend the court in a case.

Doctor told me that, whenever we treat emergency cases the attendants dictate us, they are emotional at the moment and we understand their sentiments but they don’t let us to work freely. We have to examine the casualties thoroughly, because we are accountable in the courts. Moreover, he said we have to conduct laboratory tests and X-rays, CT Scan etc, it takes time while the attendants blame us for our negligence.

They should have reasonable duty hours, handsome salaries, steps to eliminate medico legal red tapism and rapid promotions. People’s Primary Healthcare Initiatives is an admirable project offering good salaries to doctors. Even in rural areas doctors are available in BHU’s with medicines. This project should be extended on permanent basis to ensure health facilities as well as provide first aid in emergency cases.
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i agree but i think we all xpect doctors to be supernatural they r human n v should treat tham like that
one aspect is the raise of voilence n disturbance in society has afeected every one in society n they are becoming victim of dipression agression anxiety etc
n i belive not only doctors but u can see this trend in every field of life weathe teachers, lawyers architects almost every person frm every feild is affected.
one imp thing is materialist approch is being developed among all this is also creating problem
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''A person acts with 'criminal negligence' with respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a statute defining an offense when he fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists. The risk must be of such nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation.''
in medical profession,if a doctor knowingly let patient die or mistreat that leads to death then it is criminal negligence.
these cases are common not in Pakistan but all over the world. in USA one may lose license or has to pay huge amount.
media highlights these cases and exaggerate reality.
i worked in hospitals. in surgery emergency one comes at 6 am and has minimum of 12 hour duty and if doctors are less in number then may extend to 24 hours.usually a group of 8 doctor with 4-5 house officers and 3-4 medical officers control emergency and take care of at least 300-600 patients daily in 12 hour duty.one gets so tired,you can hardly imagine.sometimes one even does not have time for snacks.
in such a hectic job,one has to be very careful as one has to diagnose,treat,counsel and decide for operation or any other step.
it is also very difficult to obtain true history from patients and one has to be sharp to judge history.so such duties and heavy job lead to errors and mistakes.then para-medical staff also do mistakes but they hide it comfortably because you never know what they have done.
doctors don't know what is condition of patient. mostly terminal ill patients come to emergency and you have hardly any time to save them.
salaries is an issue but it does not come forward for saving any life.
relatives have sentiments and they want their patient to survive but when patient dies ,they blame doctors.
doctors are only human beings ,they can save lives only which could be saved.
"jub kis ki maut aati he to ankhon per patti dal di jati he"
as far as irresponsible or less knowledge of doctors is concerned,such doctors are not allowed to treat serious patients.
many other reasons are also involved
for example if in lahore one has a head injury only hospital for treatment is general hospital. but general hospital does not have ct-scan machine(last time i know it was out of order).so one has to get ct-scan or MRI of brain from one place and then go to general hospital which itself has heavy emergency full of such patients.so what can doctor do in such situation?
similarly in disaster we have to save only those patients and treat those which can be saved. patients are categorized and treated accordingly.

everyone wants to save his/her patient. death is a harsh reality.sentiments are high. doctors cannot give life to anyone if HE the LORD,the ALMIGHTY does not want to.
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A 28 years old Multani guy went to coma because of the criminal negligence of a young doctor...doctor was arrested by the police but he was not ashamed...now what parents would do??they are asking govt to bear the expenses of the treatment of their son??is it the fault of govt??
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A 28 years old Multani guy went to coma because of the criminal negligence of a young doctor...doctor was arrested by the police but he was not ashamed...now what parents would do??they are asking govt to bear the expenses of the treatment of their son??is it the fault of govt??
It is not the fault of government rather it was the negligence of that young doctor if he has not treated the patient properly. Parents should go for legal proceedings against that doctor and prove them guilty in the court and yes, the government should help the patient financially and provide him good treatment facilities.
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Negligence
No ..............
These are deliberate acts.
The most corrupt institutions are

Police
Generalism
Account Office

Other departments are waging war against them.This is the most pathetic situation.My friend, doctor, is an honest man likn jub be kisi police waly ya sahafi ya acounts kay kisi bandy ka kam hota ha wo un se paise lyta ha . ya un ka kam nahe kerta .
kion k wo be aise kerty ha.
Aghur chay bad me wo un paiso ko kisi ko de detay ha but this is not an issue
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every man makes mistakes. but mistake of a doctor can take life.
incidents like this are common.
what is the case behind coma of that patient? we only see what media allows us to see.
it is responsibility of senior doctors to guide junior or young doctors and if someone is incapable of handling serious cases,do not allow him to.
irresponsible attitude and criminal negligence should not be tolerated.
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I think negligence cases not increasing. These are happening as usual and as used to happen in past. Only their media coverage is increasing due to prolifartation of the electronic media in the country.
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My friend, doctor, is an honest man likn jub be kisi police waly ya sahafi ya acounts kay kisi bandy ka kam hota ha wo un se paise lyta ha . ya un ka kam nahe kerta .
kion k wo be aise kerty ha.
Aghur chay bad me wo un paiso ko kisi ko de detay ha but this is not an issue
i don't think this attitude is right...you can't take bribe from a person just bcoz he takes bribe from another...by doing this you are also commiting a crime and have no right to be called an honest person...if you take bribe from those people it will only strenthen their belief that only bribe can do anything...
show them what can happen without bribe.
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