Islam teaches Tolerance, Equity & Moderation. Being the religion of reason and conscience, it enjoins to explore the universe & acquire knowledge.


It has nothing to do with attires.

Yes, we should not criticize the Western culture, because calling the garbage icky won't render it less stinky, what we should do is stay away from that. Islam is a natural religion and it does not stop us from living in this very world, with all its diversities of cultures and religions, after all Prophet (PBUH) and his companions had lived in this very world, we should practice the shariah and that's it. There is nothing like enlightened Muslim, there is only one thing called Muslim.
I think you stick to your point, not that you ARE stick to your point dear.
Yes, I acquiesce, we must bear the burden of our faults, but would you enlighten me what exactly is our conservative approach which according to you is the root of agony?
Here I agree to you wholeheartedly dear, we are not practicing Muslims aka Momin. Allah has made no promise with a Muslim, all promises of help and blessings are with Momineen. We must practically follow the Islam, rather paying lip service to Islam.

I must urge the so called liberals to practice moderation, they preach the moderation but unfortunately become extremist in propagating their views. If they can't follow the Islam, they must not repudiate it.

Regards,

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I must urge the so called liberals to practice moderation, they preach the moderation but unfortunately become extremist in propagating their views. If they can't follow the Islam, they must not repudiate it.

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Islam must not repudiate either by the liberals or by the conservatives. What we need is to understand the true spirit of Islam.
We cannot impose Fatwa on others by saying that they are not following Islam , and therefore, they are "so-called liberals.

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You did not answer any of my above point. Yes, we are in dire need of first understanding and then practicing the true Islam. No one is imposing any fatwa dear, and I think being liberal and not following Islam is in itself a tautology, no one need to issue a fatwa in this regard.

Regard,

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i read all the points of my seniors and my mind is developed too, so thanks to all my extraordinary talented seniors.
i would like to contribute that WESTERN CULTURE is not responsible for anything. because we the people are responsible for importing that culture and adopting that. western culture is for west and let the west play with that.
when we commit anything wrong, automatically we state that its all because of western culture and nobody dares to accept the reality that not the western culture but we the people are responsible for each and everything. wearing jeans, dressing ourselves unique and dressing our hair straight doesnt not mean that we are Jews, Christians or anything else. everything depends on the mental level but our problem is that, we are making our minds much more narrow day by day. if a glass is put on the table half filled with water, everyone comments that the glass if half empty and nobody state that the glass is half filled. same is the case.
its the time to change our thinking modes and to develop our mind potentials. Naurash stated about the shops and buyers so i will further add that "IF THERE WILL BE NO IMPORTERS OF WEST CULTURE, THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSIONS LIKE THESE".
We need to opt OPTIMISM now because other nations have kissed the sky and we are still busy in criticizing West Culture.

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Respected Member, You've been talking about Iqbal's self-actualization and his concept of a muslim state but have you read Iqbal's concept of a muslim legislature? His point of view about the dissolution of Turkish Khilafat? Arabian imperialism? And so forth. You made another point about our past, I do agree with you because "Who ignore history are condemned to repeat it" (Munir Akram) but it is also a reality that as we muslims are lagging behind the West in almost each and every sphere of life so we try to take shelter under our glorious past? from the present humiliation. Please read Iqbal's Shiqwa and Jawab i Shiqwa. Western wardrobe is not a problem and should not be so far as it is up to the standard of Islam in veiling one's body. Regards

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Can you give any persuasive point that why Muslims are being ruled by those people who stink?

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If it hadn't been for that 'stinky' culture, we'd still be living in the medieval ages.

"who even postpone the question of freedom to the question of free trade, and quietly read the prices-current along with the latest advices from Mexico, after dinner, and it may be, fall asleep over them both." -Henry David Thoreau

Here you go. Formal English.

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@Buddha

Brother, I apologize from you if I hurt your feelings. Being a Muslim, you are respectable for me, I mustn't have indulged in such a tirade, I realize that I must have been patient, I apologize dear. I forgive you too, and I expect you would pardon me too.

@Invincible

Dear, it was not alluded to any person or a system, it was an analogy just.

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But when love is one sided, holding off is no more an option.