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Has anyone made such effort for AD-Sindh? If yes then please share.
can anybody share the merit list of sindh rural/urban also for the post of AD
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I didn`t get 100 yet i scored enough to compete in Psycho. It was like an entrance exam test held by NTS and not a job test and being candidate of CSS doesn`t mean that all those are capable to stand in the final merit list. and what sort of abilities of candidates can you judge with such type of written test? IQ, vocab, and CA know how and nothing else.

Actually there should have been an essay if not long then atleast 2 pages long so that they can judge the actual report writing skills.
Haider brother, I am not interested in further arguments to defend my point of view. Perhaps you wanted to say that test was normal, and then you confused normality of the test with ‘formality’. I earlier mentioned both the exams have different characteristics, it does not mean that you completely underrate NAB test. It was relatively a difficult exam. That is why many guys, even the scholars who you call CSS candidates, failed.

As long as report writing is concerned, I am sure everybody selected will have decent writing skills to be able to write investigation report. Secondly, I do not know what you specifically call "report writing". If you mean good report writing in terms of impeccable English, I can say this is not very important. They are just required to know how to write simple English, but there is no compromise on the quality of substance in the investigation reports. It should be evidenced based.

By the way, what do you suggest the probable questions in the interview. @ash has so far brought some points, and I thoroughly agree with him. I will appreciate if you share your opinion on:

Why do people tend to do corruption?
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If you people are done with the comparison of CSS and NAB, with your consent can we move onto the next step ?? where my suggestion is to post questions an interviewer can ask and all the members answer them in your own style. The advantage of this exercise would be having lots of words, opinions and way of expressing yourselves.
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Haider brother, I am not interested in further arguments to defend my point of view. Perhaps you wanted to say that test was normal, and then you confused normality of the test with ‘formality’. I earlier mentioned both the exams have different characteristics, it does not mean that you completely underrate NAB test. It was relatively a difficult exam. That is why many guys, even the scholars who you call CSS candidates, failed.

As long as report writing is concerned, I am sure everybody selected will have decent writing skills to be able to write investigation report. Secondly, I do not know what you specifically call "report writing". If you mean good report writing in terms of impeccable English, I can say this is not very important. They are just required to know how to write simple English, but there is no compromise on the quality of substance in the investigation reports. It should be evidenced based.

By the way, what do you suggest the probable questions in the interview. @ash has so far brought some points, and I thoroughly agree with him. I will appreciate if you share your opinion on:

Why do people tend to do corruption?
I meant formality by saying formality And using english doesn`t mean that one can write good report. And a good report always means precise representation of everything not bundle of vocab Thats why I said 2 paged essay or something. And about being css candidate i already replied in previous post read that.

Probable questions can be recent foreign policy developments, they will also be looking forward to question our stay in NAB or moving somewhere else. And i also found it useful NAB website FAQ`s how NAB performs and its rules.
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Dear All,

If you people are done with the comparison of CSS and NAB, with your consent can we move onto the next step ?? where my suggestion is to post questions an interviewer can ask and all the members answer them in your own style. The advantage of this exercise would be having lots of words, opinions and way of expressing yourselves.
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So lets start with recent Foreign policy developments.
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The mostly asked questions for government jobs and especially for NAB will be....

1. How you will be able to cope with political pressure?

2. Why people do corruption?

3. Why you want to join NAB?

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The mostly asked questions for government jobs and especially for NAB will be....

1. How you will be able to cope with political pressure?

2. Why people do corruption?

3. Why you want to join NAB?

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1- Following the rules and law of NAB.
2- Because of distance from religion. To have good material life.
3- NAB is a prestigious organization and offers good professional environment that entails responsibility and career growth.
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1- Following the rules and law of NAB.
2- Because of distance from religion. To have good material life.
3- NAB is a prestigious organization and offers good professional environment that entails responsibility and career growth.
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1. According to rules and laws the chairman NAB is appointed by President... who is a political figure.... and if there is a pressure of chairman on you....

2. Well religion is a personal matter of a person there is less corruption in western societies they don't follow religion so strictly..... and there are even person who have enough wealth but they again do corruption.......

3. Is NAB only institute in Pakistan who offer these things there are other institutes too and private sector which offer growth and professionalism.
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Counter questions...

1. According to rules and laws the chairman NAB is appointed by President... who is a political figure.... and if there is a pressure of chairman on you....
Then too I will always follow Law and oath taken by me. If l have taken an oath that I will follow all the legal and illegal orders of my superiors, I always will follow.

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2. Well religion is a personal matter of a person there is less corruption in western societies they don't follow religion so strictly..... and there are even person who have enough wealth but they again do corruption.......
Western countries have laws that are implemented strictly and in Pakistan the law implementers are also somewhat negligent in implementing either because there is no check or a minimum check. And when such mind set of corruption is not demoralized, it continues to exist without distinction of rich or poor.

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3. Is NAB only institute in Pakistan who offer these things there are other institutes too and private sector which offer growth and professionalism.
Private sector in Pakistan is facing the worst conditions due to energy shortfall. There is no job security in private sector as I have already worked in private sector. I was looking forward for a job in a department that can allow me to play a role in the betterment of society and Pakistan and NAB is one of such departments.
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Counter questions...

1. According to rules and laws the chairman NAB is appointed by President... who is a political figure.... and if there is a pressure of chairman on you....

2. Well religion is a personal matter of a person there is less corruption in western societies they don't follow religion so strictly..... and there are even person who have enough wealth but they again do corruption.......

3. Is NAB only institute in Pakistan who offer these things there are other institutes too and private sector which offer growth and professionalism.
@Adeel... Good questions... Your questions are really thought provoking and they reflect your agile mind. I would like to answer these questions like this.

1) Though finishing the inquiries within the allocated time will be my responsibility, but I will surely work with team in Investigation Wing. If I am faced with a situation where I see that any kind of pressure, whether it is political or whatever, I will immediately bring this to the attention of my Case Officer (CO). And I am sure he will report it to the director and the director general. My boss and I will sit together and device a strategy to deal with that kind of situation.



2) Corruption is sin and people have propensity to commit sin, it is inherent to them. Secondly it is greed that incites people to tend to corrupt practices. Unfortunately, our moral and social values have changed. We see pompous life of others and get impressed to change our own lifestyle at all cost. The urge to live beyond our means dictates us to generate income sources, and the easiest way people find is corruption whether it is through abuse of authority or fraudulent practices. We want money; doesn’t matter it comes from illicit means. Thirdly, people do not have realization and enlightenment that their corrupt practices are undermining the fabric of our society. They are uneducated of the fact that corruption is ulcer. Fourthly, the system of accountability is absent and this encourages people to commit corruption without punitive consequences.
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