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Kamran Saturday, August 22, 2009 01:37 PM

SPSC CCE 2003 SCAM and investigation Findings
 
KARACHI: The discrepancies on massive scale have been revealed in Sindh Public Service Commission (SPSC) Examinations 2003 in which the close relatives of SPSC and government officials declared successful instead of successful candidates after tempering the results.

According to report, 2555 candidates took part in SPSC examinations 2003 for grade 16 and 17 posts among which 531 candidates declared successful in written test and after interview, total 77 announced successful.

A youth Saleem Sheikh had challenged the results in Sindh High Court against tempering in results.

A three-member committee consists of Chairman Shah Mansoor Alam and Abrar Hussain Mirza and Nawaz Ali Leghari had been formed to investigate the issue. Sources said that the committee after rechecking of the copies has disclosed that many candidates among 77 are failed but they had been declared successful after tempering in the results whereas copies of two candidates Ayan Mustafa Bhutto and Dr. Nisar A Leghari are missing. Large number of successful candidates are the children of government officials.

The evidences indicated the involvement of high officials of SPSC and control examination Umar Zor in the whole process.

According to sources, 47 candidates declared successful were failed and currently all of them serving duties at key government posts after passing six years.

The enquiry committee recommended to declare SPSC examinations 2003 results as void and consider the entire examination process of 2003 as forge and illegal.

[url]http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=85536[/url]

Azhar Hussain Memon Sunday, August 23, 2009 05:32 PM

Spsc
 
[B][I]oh my God! How SPSC swallowed the struggle of other candidates, who may be pass in that exam.

But fellows what about this year's CE of SPSC, which SPSC has taken.

Regards
Azhar Hussain Memon [/I][/B]

supersonic dexter Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:00 PM

very shocking
 
its truly very shocking news coverage. if they have to recruit only handpicked persons ,then why playing with the future of thousands of candidates..i too give up my well paid job to dedicate my maximum time to take up the exam , and win on the grounds of merit in CCE2008. And its very disheartening to know, about our fellow member, its a disgusting example of meritocide.you could have approched the court, to voice your case. i had been very optimistic that despite favoritism and neoptism, merit wins, but i feel i will have to change my perspective. ALLAH rehm kary, baki asan wat dua ha siwai koi byo hithyaar kon ahey. Allah saeen please!!!thanks
regards

supersonic dexter Monday, August 24, 2009 12:07 AM

Zulum je had
 
Aae ba had a had!!! 77 ma 47, unqualified candidates! oh my God! aen hn wakt ehu candidates , awam khe serve knda hunda !!! What can we expect now?

SAJID A.BALOCH Monday, August 24, 2009 01:53 AM

:thinking In mein ko shaq nahey ta tamam wadi nainsafi thi aahay hunan candidates saan jakay pas hunday ba fail kaya waya aahin...
hin maan spsc ji credibility and transparency tay cadidates jo shaq sahi sabit thay tho...
umeed ahay ta govt in jach committee ji sufarishan khay qabool kandi...Hats off to the committee:bow
May ALLAH restore the good image of spsc...

Irfi Monday, August 24, 2009 01:56 AM

babe pcs 2009 jo sha theedo? shall we prepare to swallow the other pill of injustice? what may be the position of merit this time?????PPP zidabad jo naro lagayu?

SAJID A.BALOCH Monday, August 24, 2009 02:02 AM

I think the matter should not be politicized by mentioning any political party here...the issue of cce 2003 is related to corruption...and thanks God it has successfully come to the fore... now a great deal of good can be expected from cce 2009...Even then hope and pray for the best...

Arthur Monday, August 24, 2009 02:11 AM

alarm for this exam
 
decision of cce 2003 is in the hand of High court.
But,it is alarm for the the corrupt officers for 2008-9 that if they do this it can be the same situation next time.

supersonic dexter Monday, August 24, 2009 08:53 AM

spsc
 
We can only hope for the best , when we make our institutes independent of political pressures. please avoid politicizing the issue in wider interest.thanks
regards and best wishes to all the aspirants.

DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK Monday, August 24, 2009 10:34 AM

what to next
 
We should emphasize to honorable Court, Government of Sindh and present SPSC chairman that following steps should be taken:

1. The former alleged Chairman Mr. Bhutto, along with his members and Controller Mr. Zounr should be brought in front of honorable court for accountability.

2. The re-interview should be conducted of 77 successful candidates in written exam 2003 and new merit list should be advanced.

3. For CCE-2008 the two extra externals should be in interviewers as members one from honorable court and one from Federal Govt. for the transparency of the system

zoombhuto Monday, August 24, 2009 10:40 AM

i might face cardio problem
 
dear raz! last year i was selected as an english lecturer in cadet college larkana,when i was only 22 years of age.i was so happy because i was going to be payed around 20000 per month.but unfortunately i could not join it because they were bonding me for two years.had i joined it,i could never be able to appear in cce8.
now you tell me that after this controversy,can we expect 80% merit?because if i will not be selected,i might face cardio problem:0 .

Kamran Monday, August 24, 2009 10:47 AM

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Hassan_Abro Monday, August 24, 2009 12:02 PM

I m reading all the comments of you pals, another lugubrious aspect is that most of the exmination papers of 2003 CC Examinations had not been even bothered to be checked. The copies were budled and thrown into store rooms.
I personnaly want to reflect the attention of my countrymen generally and sindhi brothers especially, toward the woebegone banter of this whole story that how many meritorious candidates victamized by this and simillar other slaughtering merit massacres in sindh provience. Alas! my province is most notorious now in respect of merit blood shed. A deserving candiate at right seat can be a guarantee of splended improvement and progress, but on the other hand a candidate who is being selected on bribe or nepotism is certainly an ultimate set back as I can never expect integrity from such illegally selected candidates. My Friends, My seniors, My conutrymen, My leaders, please think for a while, just for a second, what is being done? A province with third grade educational grading and most corrupt selection authorities. Is that we are going to transmit to our next gen?
I have been watching the examination in karachi where media has shown blunt irregularites, open heart cheating and the culture of no shame. simultaneously I watched the examination in Swat home less children in wreckage of schools but content with studies and merit. Feel which direction world is going and where sindh is heading for?

shabeersethar Monday, August 24, 2009 02:02 PM

Judge:
I am one of the selected candidates for the post of section officer.I do not claim that all candidates were selected on merit but present some facts to all coz only one side of picture has been presented.I personally feel that inquiry is politically motivated with certain vested designs.
OUT OF 77 nearly 40 ARE CSS QUALIFIED:SOME OF THEM ARE[LIST=1][*]RIAZ DAHAR POSTAL[*]SAMAD SMOO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]SHAH HUSSAIN COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]ATTAULLAH SHAH ACCOUNTS[*]FAYAZ ABBASI DMG[*]FAYYAZ JATOI DMG[*]FARUKH HABIBANI PSP[*]SAIFULLAH ABRO ACCOUNTS[*]IHSAN SHAH CUSTOMS[*]JAHANZEB ABBASI CUSTOMS[*]FAWAD SOOMRO DMG[*]FAWAD SHAH DMG[*]IMRAN QURESHI CUSTOMS[*]SHABIR SETHAR PSP[*]MUKHTIAR SHAR INCOM TAX[*]HAIDER MAHESR CUSTOMS[*]SALAHDIN DMG[*]KAMRAN KHAN ACCOUNTS[*]AFZAL CHANA COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]SAEED KALHORO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]YAKOOB MANGRIO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]IBRAHIM MEMON COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]ALI GUL SANJRANI COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]JUMAN THEBO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[/LIST]I JUST PUT THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS BEFORE THE MEMBERS FURTHER THEY ARE THE BEST JUDGE
NOTE:I Might have missed some officers name

SHABIR SETHAR
PSP,37TH CTP

Arthur Monday, August 24, 2009 09:08 PM

Dear,
In which newspaper this news in urdu has published?

[QUOTE=shabeersethar]Judge:
I am one of the selected candidates for the post of section officer.I do not claim that all candidates were selected on merit but present some facts to all coz only one side of picture has been presented.I personally feel that inquiry is politically motivated with certain vested designs.
OUT OF 77 nearly 40 ARE CSS QUALIFIED:SOME OF THEM ARE[LIST=1][*]RIAZ DAHAR POSTAL[*]SAMAD SMOO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]SHAH HUSSAIN COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]ATTAULLAH SHAH ACCOUNTS[*]FAYAZ ABBASI DMG[*]FAYYAZ JATOI DMG[*]FARUKH HABIBANI PSP[*]SAIFULLAH ABRO ACCOUNTS[*]IHSAN SHAH CUSTOMS[*]JAHANZEB ABBASI CUSTOMS[*]FAWAD SOOMRO DMG[*]FAWAD SHAH DMG[*]IMRAN QURESHI CUSTOMS[*]SHABIR SETHAR PSP[*]MUKHTIAR SHAR INCOM TAX[*]HAIDER MAHESR CUSTOMS[*]SALAHDIN DMG[*]KAMRAN KHAN ACCOUNTS[*]AFZAL CHANA COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]SAEED KALHORO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]YAKOOB MANGRIO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]IBRAHIM MEMON COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]ALI GUL SANJRANI COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]JUMAN THEBO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[/LIST]I JUST PUT THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS BEFORE THE MEMBERS FURTHER THEY ARE THE BEST JUDGE
NOTE:I Might have missed some officers name

SHABIR SETHAR
PSP,37TH CTP[/QUOTE]

Dear,
one more cadidate should be added in your list:
FAROOQ AZAM ABRO

F.S. Monday, August 24, 2009 11:26 PM

[B]3-time failure of CSS Mr. Saleem Shaikh[/B] after six years of slumber has today realised that he was the best mind in province in 2003, but by sheer injustice on part of SPSC management, he was not selected in final merit list

An enquiry commissioned by Chairman SN Abbasi ([B]with no CSS/PCS Background, but with right connections with Presidency, retired Estate Officer with history of terms in jail, a convict on corruption charges, NRO beneficiary[/B]) which has members like Mr. Shah Mansoor Alam ([B]he was in jail for 11 years on corruption charges[/B]) & Nawaz Leghari ([B]whose son failed to pass CCE-2003[/B]) is obviously aimed to defame us who have proven time n again. Shabir Sethar has missed few names. [B]SHABIR'S THREAD IS TESTIMONY OF MISCONCIEVED, FRIVILOUS & FRAUDULENT MEDIA CAMPAIGN ...[/B]

[B]Few fellow members of this forum who r attributing their inability to pass CCE-2003 on spsc instead of their own incapability are advised in good faith to prove their worth in other competitive exams before washing their dirty linen in public[/B]

Arthur Monday, August 24, 2009 11:47 PM

To F.S
 
Being victim of CCE-2003.
There is neither any our inability nor we are evaporating this issue.
we are just sharing our views.
who is right and who is wrong will be decided by the court.
Shabir is on his way right.he has mentioned the names of competitive candidates.He has also made a ''Note:I might have missed officers names''.
we must not challenge each other in this forum.

zoombhuto Tuesday, August 25, 2009 09:06 AM

hey guys!cool down,cold war is not good for this forum.
i think raz and fs both are right.i believe that we can expect 50% merit in spsc.
success of many cce candidates in css, clears every thing.
and guys!it might be a trick of ppp for recruiting jiyalas and avoiding future controversies.remember during the reign of bb 120ad and 1000 inspectors were recruited without commission only in ib.

Babakhan Tuesday, August 25, 2009 09:44 AM

@Sethar and FS

How can media and others will give a clean chit to those who cleared CSS later on. Clearing CSS in later stages not at all a testimoney that they have been allocated following the principles of meritocracy. I am happy that committee was formed to detect fradulant activities. If you both were on merit than you should not be worrying about the outcome and I'm sure meritorious people will definitely be safe.

It is a very serious issue where almost 80% of the lot who failed to even clear the written portion of the exam was allocated. We should launch a protest to dislodge those Candidates (Rightly called JALEE by one of the forum fellows earlier).

Regards

SAJID A.BALOCH Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:12 PM

I am thankful to Shabeer Sethar and F.S. for showing the other or the right side of the picture...The information regarding the profile of the Committe Members has opened the eyes of many, particularly of those who could not see the other view of the matter...

@Shabeer Sethar,
Dear I agree with you that the issue seems to be politically motivated...I said in my earlier post that the issue should not be politicized here but what can we do when it is politicized by those who have their axe to grind...your post has cleared the misconceptions and will help lower many raised fingers over the merit of the officers...and you are also right to say that "I donot claim that all candidates were selected on merit".

@F.S.,
Dear Fawad your information regarding the eligibility of th committee members is really mind blowing and an eye-opener to those who were victims of the one-sided view of the issue...

F.S. Tuesday, August 25, 2009 01:31 PM

@ Babakhan,

first of all, welcome to discussion


[QUOTE=Babakhan]@Sethar and FS

How can media and others will give a clean chit to those who cleared CSS later on. Clearing CSS in later stages not at all a testimoney that they have been allocated following the principles of meritocracy. I am happy that committee was formed to detect fradulant activities. If you both were on merit than you should not be worrying about the outcome and I'm sure meritorious people will definitely be safe. [/QUOTE]

Bro, pl learn to relish that fact many of CCE-2003 qualifiers had cleared CSS in previous year. even in CSS-2003, three successful candidates of CCE-2003 got allocated... many have cleared CSS in last five years.... If [B][I]Clearing CSS in later stages not at all a testimoney that they have been allocated following the principles of meritocracy[/I][/B] than according to ur enlighted wisdom, what should be testimony of our competency....

Bro let me make it clear to you that we r not at all worried. my worry is to let youth of Sindh know the real side of story.....

[QUOTE=Babakhan]
It is a very serious issue where almost 80% of the lot who failed to even clear the written portion of the exam was allocated. We should launch a protest to dislodge those Candidates (Rightly called JALEE by one of the forum fellows earlier).

Regards[/QUOTE]

Bro, the court will have final say who is JALEE?? I will restrict my comments till then...

The realisation of one's follies leads to betterment in future, so all those who could not be allocated in CCE-2003 should analyse their own loopholes instead of defaming the meritorious ones

Take care & Regards

Babakhan Tuesday, August 25, 2009 02:52 PM

@FS

Dear mujhe lagta hai ke aap ne poore CCE-2003 ke batch ka theka liya hai. :dd . Dost if you are on merit than what are you yelling for and what are your worries? Lets those who have used illegal means face the music. This is a critical issue and made public recently and in the era of hyper active judiciary it is almost impossible to sweep it under the carpet. People are encouraged to raise their voice and if Chief secretary tries to delay its proceedings this issue will be taken up on different forums

Regards

shabeersethar Tuesday, August 25, 2009 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=Babakhan]@Sethar and FS

[B]How can media and others will give a clean chit to those who cleared CSS later on.[/B] Clearing CSS in later stages not at all a testimoney that they have been allocated following the principles of meritocracy. I am happy that committee was formed to detect fradulant activities. If you both were on merit than you should not be worrying about the outcome.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if we are supposed to get clean chits from media and others.PEOPLE JUDGE YOU BY WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE WHEREAS YOU JUDGE YOURSELF BY WHAT YOU FEEL CAPABLE OF DOING, Says legendary Longfellow.
I am worried !! Not at all bro, I am just wondering over the fate of CCE 2009.Will it be sacrosanct in next government?:cry

[QUOTE]
It is a very serious issue where almost 80% of the lot who failed to even clear the written portion of the exam was allocated. We should launch a protest to dislodge those Candidates (Rightly called JALEE by one of the forum fellows earlier).[/QUOTE]

I fail to understand the modus operandii of committee for these reasons.
Remember ,They have srutnised the copies of only 77 successful candidates.47 failures were called for interview! copies of two are missing !

SPSC should conduct scrutiny of answer copies of 2555 candidates and then 531 through judicial committee and must make markssheets open for all.Then all ll be crystal clear.

Shabir Sethar

Last Island Tuesday, August 25, 2009 05:34 PM

[QUOTE]Dear mujhe lagta hai ke aap ne poore CCE-2003 ke batch ka theka liya hai.[/QUOTE]

@ Baba Khan

You have the right to express and no body is restricting you [COLOR=Red]BUT you have to watch your words[/COLOR].

F.S. Tuesday, August 25, 2009 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Babakhan]@FS

Dear mujhe lagta hai ke aap ne poore CCE-2003 ke batch ka theka liya hai. :dd . [/QUOTE]

This satement reflects what type of person you are? :nono :nono :nono

I don't need to comment on it...

I am not at all illitrate like u who is bent on forcing his opinion on others. I m giving my point of view. I m here to guide people , unlike u, who is here to unleash personal venom on others...

If u'v failed in PCS last time
Better accept it.. Its good for your health............. Otherwisae Umar Bhar yahi rona rahiga

[QUOTE=Babakhan] Dost if you are on merit than what are you yelling for and what are your worries? [/QUOTe]

Who is yelling man... pl stop using such language
Pl stop complaining.. this thread is meant for discussion on so called "Discrepancies revealed in SPSC examinations."

[QUOTE=Babakhan] Lets those who have used illegal means face the music. This is a critical issue and made public recently and in the era of hyper active judiciary it is almost impossible to sweep it under the carpet. People are encouraged to raise their voice and if Chief secretary tries to delay its proceedings this issue will be taken up on different forums

Regards[/QUOTE]
:haha :haha :haha :haha :haha


:tata

shabeersethar Tuesday, August 25, 2009 09:34 PM

Judge:
I am one of the selected candidates for the post of section officer.I do not claim that all candidates were selected on merit but present some facts to all coz only one side of picture has been presented.I personally feel that inquiry is politically motivated with certain vested designs.
OUT OF 77 nearly 40 ARE CSS QUALIFIED:SOME OF THEM ARE
[LIST=1][*]RIAZ DAHAR POSTAL[*]SAMAD SMOO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]SHAH HUSSAIN COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]ATTAULLAH SHAH ACCOUNTS[*]FAYAZ ABBASI DMG[*]FAYYAZ JATOI DMG[*]FARUKH HABIBANI PSP[*]SAIFULLAH ABRO ACCOUNTS[*]IHSAN SHAH CUSTOMS[*]JAHANZEB ABBASI CUSTOMS[*]FAWAD SOOMRO DMG[*]FAWAD SHAH DMG[*]IMRAN QURESHI CUSTOMS[*]SHABIR SETHAR PSP[*]MUKHTIAR SHAR INCOM TAX[*]HAIDER MAHESR CUSTOMS[*]SALAHDIN DMG[*]KAMRAN KHAN ACCOUNTS[*]AFZAL CHANA COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]SAEED KALHORO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]YAKOOB MANGRIO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]IBRAHIM MEMON COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]ALI GUL SANJRANI COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED[*]JUMAN THEBO COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED
[*]Karamullah soomro PSP[*]Amanat Ali Shar TAX[*]Abdul Qadeer abasi Accounts[*]Akbar Barhmani not allocated[*]Nawaz sohoo[/LIST]

I JUST PUT THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS BEFORE THE MEMBERS FURTHER THEY ARE THE BEST JUDGE
NOTE:I Might have still missed some officers name(I know 60 officers)
nearly 18 have left after qualifying CSS in 2005 to 2007

SHABIR SETHAR
PSP,37TH CTP

DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK Wednesday, August 26, 2009 08:40 AM

result of discussion
 
Dears :onesec

Topic: Discrepancies revealed in SPSC examinations/Genuineness
So far Reply to Thread: 16
Favour for news: 14 -- 87.5% believe as Genuineness

opposite against news: 2---12.5% believe as inaccuracy


Result:Majority is authority

Babakhan Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:47 AM

Presumably my comments are taken in negative sense and I failed to understand the point behind their anger. Why literate class of Sindh has disliked the act of SPSC of unveiling the JALEE bureaucrats? Let me bring one little piece of information in your kind knowledge is that investigators appointed by SPSC has record of examination scripts which are marked ‘FAIL’ by the examiner. They were called for interview and allocated in later stages. So whatever you think of myself and others but simple truth has been revealed.

Mr. Bhutto (Ex. Chairman SPSC) ne jate jate apne bête aur aik ya do aur logon kee copies gum kerdein ya phaar dein whatever. But other poor chaps who paid Millions of the rupees for their jalee allocation are caught red handed. They have got every right to gather and launch a protest infront of Bhutto’s house situated in Larkana/Karachi for not doing JALEE kaam professionally. Us ne paise liye aur fail ko pass ker ke allocate ker diya aur saara record peeche chor diya siwai apne piyare BACHEY ke JIS KE scripts gum hain.

Regards

F.S. Wednesday, August 26, 2009 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK]Dears :onesec

Topic: Discrepancies revealed in SPSC examinations/Genuineness
So far Reply to Thread: 16
Favour for news: 14 -- 87.5% believe as Genuineness

opposite against news: 2---12.5% believe as inaccuracy


Result:Majority is authority[/QUOTE]

What a simplification Khushkh Sahib,
lets elect future's PM of Pak on one thread by calling views of fellow members :) :) :)
If I m not wrong, than you r a cousin of Ali Nawaz Khushkh :pipe :pipe

[QUOTE=]
Presumably my comments are taken in negative sense and I failed to understand the point behind their anger. Why literate class of Sindh has disliked the act of SPSC of unveiling the JALEE bureaucrats? Let me bring one little piece of information in your kind knowledge is that investigators appointed by SPSC has record of examination scripts which are marked ‘FAIL’ by the examiner. They were called for interview and allocated in later stages. So whatever you think of myself and others but simple truth has been revealed.

Mr. Bhutto (Ex. Chairman SPSC) ne jate jate apne bête aur aik ya do aur logon kee copies gum kerdein ya phaar dein whatever. But other poor chaps who paid Millions of the rupees for their jalee allocation are caught red handed. They have got every right to gather and launch a protest infront of Bhutto’s house situated in Larkana/Karachi for not doing JALEE kaam professionally. Us ne paise liye aur fail ko pass ker ke allocate ker diya aur saara record peeche chor diya siwai apne piyare BACHEY ke JIS KE scripts gum hain.

[/QUOTE]

The matter is sub-judice, we will have final laugh

Take care

Babakhan Wednesday, August 26, 2009 03:26 PM

@FS

SPSC has despatched the whole case to Chief secretary with the list of JALEE people. Further more, their examination scripts are ready to be submitted before the respectable court. Sooner or later this case will be decided and can't be left unturned. Jee haan sub-judice hai muger evidence itna clear hai ke Jalee logon ka bachna namumkin hai. Mr. FS saab stop defending those corrupt elements and make our voice stronger. I request RAAZ and others to come infront and defend me if I'm talking sense. Lets not allow people laugh at those who feel the pain of down trodden sindhi nation. I strongly believe that People from these forums go to High and Supreme courts for justice.

Regards

DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK Thursday, August 27, 2009 08:51 AM

@ Fs
 
Dear FS

I unfalteringly believe that you feel right fitting in a affluent family, but I could not overlook my close friend Imtiaz Ali Soomro from larkana; eldest son in his family belonged to very poor lineage; who was the firm advocate of merit and hard working; appeared in CSS thrice but not made the grade; he appeared in CCE-2003 and passed written examination but not be up to snuff in interview due to bequeathing the nearest and dearest by the blind members and Chairman. He spent his 8 years in this process, including his time, money, and epoch. Now whenever I meet with him seems disheartened and against merit. Would any body compensate against his loss? I request you to confess the reality of things.

Adil Memon Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:23 AM

[Quote]
I could not overlook my close friend Imtiaz Ali Soomro from larkana; eldest son in his family belonged to very poor lineage; who was the firm advocate of merit and hard working; appeared in CSS thrice but not made the grade; he appeared in CCE-2003 and passed written examination but not be up to snuff in interview due to bequeathing the nearest and dearest by the blind members and Chairman. He spent his 8 years in this process, including his time, money, and epoch. Now whenever I meet with him seems disheartened and against merit.
[/Quote]

dear dr. imtiaz khush,

qualifying a competitive examination requires basic ability, learning aptitude and skills of attempting an exam. without all these, even if a person limits himself to studies for 8 years like your friend did, i really doubt if he can qualify these exams.

thank God your friend had attempted CSS (thrice and failed) along with PCS. i think this speaks clear about his ability because it is commonly believed that CSS is a free and fair exam. why couldn't he even make it once there? why don't you think????

i request you and your friend to keep this story a secret and not demoralize our sindhi youth. it is because of these things that only 50 candidates qualify from Sindh while 450+ qualify from Punjab.

tell your friend not to despair. it's fate that decides everyone's stations. his hardwork will benefit him somewhere else. everyone is not born to be an officer.

regards,

zoombhuto Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=Adil Memon]dear dr. imtiaz khush,

qualifying a competitive examination requires basic ability, learning aptitude and skills of attempting an exam. without all these, even if a person limits himself to studies for 8 years like your friend did, i really doubt if he can qualify these exams.

thank God your friend had attempted CSS (thrice and failed) along with PCS. i think this speaks clear about his ability because it is commonly believed that CSS is a free and fair exam. why couldn't he even make it once there? why don't you think????

i request you and your friend to keep this story a secret and not demoralize our sindhi youth. it is because of these things that only 50 candidates qualify from Sindh while 450+ qualify from Punjab.

tell your friend not to despair. it's fate that decides everyone's stations. his hardwork will benefit him somewhere else. everyone is not born to be an officer.

regards,[/QUOTE]
mr aadil you are right.i have been working hard for last two years and might appear in css 2010;but after coming into touch with these stories of failures,i can not even sleep properly.though iam 100% sure that InshAllah iam going to do it.
as for as cce3 is concerned,it is not only a chance for me,because i have sacrificed a lucrative job for it.any negative air can put me off.we need positive energy.

Sammar Ellahi Thursday, August 27, 2009 09:31 PM

@ Adil

"everyone is not born to be an officer."

Well said bro :)

What I believe is that no matter how much one drills BUT there always exist an over-riding factor of LUCK.

@ All

If one can clear CSS, he can easily clear PCS too. As PCS is NOTING vis-à-vis CSS !

The list provided by Shabir Seethar proves that most of the qualifiers were ON-MERIT. Because later on most of them cleared CSS. But, there does exists a possibility of not having 100% merit. Still, the result was largely based on merit.

Plus, if someone is a child of DISTINGUISHED PERSON (bureaucrat, etc) then this does not NECESSARILY mean that one is INCOMPETENT. Rather, I think that by having so, increases the probability of success. As one can get first hand guidance, best books, material, institutions and so on.


Regards

DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK Friday, August 28, 2009 08:36 AM

@ zoombutto
 
[QUOTE=zoombhuto]but after coming into touch with these stories of failures,i can not even sleep properly.though iam 100% sure that InshAllah iam going to do it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear
No need to be worry at all you should sleep properly if going to materialize in CSS Exam, but need to be lose sleep if going to appear in PCS Exam, which has been rendered in presented state of affairs

asimqazi Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:13 AM

BE PATIENT dear fellows
 
DEAR SINDHI FELLOWS

I am keenly observing and reading the views of our honourable members on SPSC subject. I reach a conclusion that both opinions presented by shabir, FS and Khusik are correct in their reality . Many candidates inducted purly on merit and vice versa. many candiadtes later on qualify the CSS by burning midnight oil.

But also we can not deny that fact that many candidates were inducted absoloutly on nepotism and were not fit for service.

i am very impress that shabir has presented the list of those successful candidates of cce 2003 those later on qualify the CSS after passing the SPSC . HE is absolutly right .

however, dear shabir , i have also the list of those candidates who qualify the CSS-2003 exam with flying colours and group allocations but failed to qualify the viva voce conducted by SPSC . the reason is best known to SPSC .

1. Imran shaikh (ITG) 2003
2. Kamran Mughal (Accounts) 2003
3. Late Abdullah Brohi (DMG) 2003
4. Ashar Shazad (FSP) 2003
5. Raja Shah zaman (DMG) 2003
6. Muhammad salem (DMG) 2003
7. Shabir Lund (Postal) 2003

AND many more who cleared the CSS 2002, 2003 EXAM & awared the groups but fail to qualify the cce 2003 . Many CSS Candidates even failed to qualify the written portion of SPSC Exam owing to the policy of meritocracy in SPSC .

Dear shabir many candidates amoung your batch qualify the exam in 2007, 2008, & 2009 and i have no doubt about their integrity . but what about those who qualify the same exam in 2003 but failed to cross the viva voce in CCE-2003.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHICH clearly reflects the merit critaria of SPSC IN 2003 .

i am not casting any doubts of meritORIOUS candidates . but the fact of the matter is that SPSC CONDUCTED THE exam in dubious manner .

I think the matter is in court . Let the justice prevail & i think the genuine successful candiadtes of CCE 2003 must not be bothered about their results . if they are correct then any court of the world can NOT deny their right of service in Government .

May sanity and truth prevail .

Babakhan Wednesday, September 02, 2009 02:10 PM

Hello,

I failed to understand this bit floated mainly by F.S ,Shabir and others that majority of CCE-2003 was on merit but on the other hand SPSC has revealed that examination scripts of almost 47 allocated officers were badly tempered. I asked a clerk inside and he told me that asessors initially have either failed or given low marks to those candidates but later on for the allocation purposes SPSC officials have overwritten marks very carelessly. These forged scripts are made the basis of the claims raised by the committee appointed for detection this crime.

Court will definitely look into this matter and come up with a decision probably will not suit people who had taken this illegal route to penetrate into the bureaucracy.

Regards

Raz Wednesday, September 02, 2009 07:03 PM

[quote=Babakhan]Hello,

Court will definitely look into this matter and come up with a decision [B]probably [COLOR=red]will not suit people who had taken this illegal route [/COLOR]to penetrate into the bureaucracy.[/B]

Regards[/quote]


Dear Babakhan: I could not catch your point highlighted in red colour. Do you mean to say "No action will be taken against the proved guilty candidates."

Kamran Thursday, September 03, 2009 07:16 AM

Ex-SPSC controller exams held over corruption charges
 
KARACHI: The Anti-Corruption Establishment sleuths have arrested former Controller of Examinations of the Sindh Public Service Commission (SPSC) Muhammad Umar Zaur over charges of corruption, malpractices and tampering the records for the Combined Competitive Examinations-2003, held by the SPSC for various posts in the Sindh government.

The arrest of Zaur, a grade-19 officer of the SPSC, became possible after a request by Inquiries and Anti-Corruption Establishment (ACE) Chairman Munawar Opel was approved by Sindh Chief Secretary Fazalur Rehman in his capacity as chairman of the Anti-Corruption Committee-1, instead of going for an open inquiry as sufficient material was available on the record to go for the registration of a case, followed by arrest and prosecution in a competent court of law.

According to the record available, the SPSC had advertised for filling up the posts of deputy district officer, section officer, labour assistant director, cooperative societies assistant registrar, labour officer and ward rationing officer in the Sindh government in 2003, the exams of which were held between Dec 31, 2003 and Jan 12, 2004. The results were announced on April 10, 2004 and 531 candidates were declared successful in the written examinations, while after viva voce, 77 individuals were recommended to the government for appointment to any department for which the Combined Competitive Examinations were held. Following agitation in the media and by a candidate, the SPSC held a comprehensive inquiry through a three-member committee, headed by Shah Mansoor Alam, and assisted by Nawaz Leghari and Abrar Hussain Mirza.

Missing: Sources have disclosed that all answersheets of two candidates, who were declared successful, Ayhan Mustafa Bhutto and Dr Nisar Ahmad Leghari, were missing. The former is the son of the then SPSC chairman. Other favourites who benefited from the tampering of the records, misuse of authority, and missing of the records included Fawad Ghaffar Soomro, Shoaib Ahmad Khero, Ms Memona Shah, Imran Bhatti, Ali Anwar Ruk, Imran Qureshi, Raja Mustafa Ali, and Javed Daudpoto. These individuals were relatives and acquaintances of men who were in power back then.

[B]The record of following candidates were willfully, deliberately and with bad intentions tampered by Zaur, in full knowledge of the then SPSC chairman: Fayyaz Hussain Abbassi, Ghulam Murtaza Memon, Ayhan Mustafa Bhutto (full papers missing), Imran Bhatti, Saifullah Abro, Nawaz Sooho, Mangrio Muhammad Yakub, Ali Gul Sanjarani, Ghulam Sarwar Uttero, Memona Shah, Thebo Muhammad Juman, Jehanzaib Abbas, Abdul Qadir Abbasi, Saeed Ahmad Shaikh, Ali Anwar Ruk, Kiran Shaikh, Sikandar Baloch, Muhammad Afzal, Mukhtiar Ahmad Mallah, Imran, Safia Naz Mangi, Muhammad Taufeeq, Riaz Ahmad Dahar, Mukhtiar Ahmad Shar, Shah Ihsanullah, Abdul Samad, Muhammad Khurram Mangi, Shabbir Ahmad Sethar, Irshad Khokhar, Ibrahim, Shoaib Ahmad Khero, Muhammad Saleem, Karamullah, Nosheen Usman, Syed Rizwan Ali, Muhammad Kamran Khan, Amjad Ali Arain, Zubair Ahmad Channa, Fuad Ghaffar Soomro, Aamir Zia Isran, Dr Nisar Ahmad Leghari (full papers missing), Kamran Ahmad Khero, Abdul Wahab Sario, Farooq Azam Abro, and Abro Sabir Ali. [/B]
It is interesting to note that 57 percent of the 77 successful candidates’ papers were missing or had been tampered with, while some had failed in compulsory subjects. Their marks were enhanced to be included in the successful candidates list by the former controller of examinations of the SPSC. The Sindh ACE believes that Zaur is possibly not the only person involved in the case, and more individuals would be nabbed once the accused is interrogated.

[url]http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\09\03\story_3-9-2009_pg7_30[/url]

DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK Thursday, September 03, 2009 09:20 AM

[QUOTE]The record of following candidates were willfully, deliberately and with bad intentions tampered by Zaur, in full knowledge of the then SPSC chairman.



Why Chairman is left so far ?


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