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miss naqvi is absolutely right that subjects should be selected according to one's apptitude.i donot believe in high and low scoring subjects because of my own experience.in my first attempt i opted for pol.science.my marks were not good in the subject,this was not due to low scoring but because my papers were not good.when i was preparing for my second attempt i was advised to change my subject but it was difficult for me to withdraw a subject for which i had prepared for nearly two years.having faith in Allah i began my preparation and i am satisfied that i may score more in pol.science.please pray for our success.
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well for me there does exists the thing we call scoring or non scoring subjects. Ones apptitude may also be a a factor but scoring trend is a reality. Some subjects ll give u marks. I wnt go into the detail. 2ndly a lot depends upon how u attempt the paper. It includes both ur presentation and ur ability to comprehend what is being asked frm u nd be able to focus on tht. Presentation does matter as much as u people thought of it in ur matric exam. 3rdly dnt try to impress examiner by going into complexities. Be simple. The more u facilitate him the more marks u ll gain n be sure he wnt be reading ur content 2nd tym again to get into something philosophical u might have written. What he cant get is wrong fr him no matter how gud tht infact be. Mine cell phone battery z down. Rest ll cm soon. Wish u all the best
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@ S Ranjha:
Could you explain what is the philosophy behind high scoring and low scoring subjects?
A student who studied pol. science for two year scores less marks against the student who studied journalism for 6 months, is'nt it unjust if we take your philosophy of high scoring and low scoring?
Certainly FPSC is not unjust to the candidates, its a matter of quality and not subjects.

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I was a non-believer in the scoring-nonscoring theory but now I am a convert and a firm believer in this phenomenon. Its better one accepts this reality before the exam in order to avoid any regrets in the future. I am not denying the fact that one has to have the aptitude for the subject but there appears to be a low ceiling for some subjects while others are more rewarding. Who wouldn't wanna chose a subject where you can score easily and save that effort for some other subject. I know many people who are major in Pol.Science but they seem to go for other subjects for the same reason.

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Could you explain what is the philosophy behind high scoring and low scoring subjects?
A student who studied pol. science for two year scores less marks against the student who studied journalism for 6 months, is'nt it unjust if we take your philosophy of high scoring and low scoring?
Certainly FPSC is not unjust to the candidates, its a matter of quality and not subjects.

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Well philosophy behind tht is too length to be discussed over here. but i told u this only as per my observation. u dun believe it thts upto u. u might wana try n see fr urself. just or un just whatever it is but its a reality.
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salam.

i have read the discussion.well,since we know that FPSC's scoring-scheme of different subjects is uneven,why don't candidates mention this stark reality in their suggestions to FPSC at the time of interview?
Are candidates afraid that something untoward will happen?
i have come to know through candidates who changed their subjects in favour of scoring ones that interview panel and psychologist asked them the reason and then themselves said that may be you did owing to the trend.
it is really heart wrenching that candidates don't dare to speak the truth and the FPSC panel also hides it discriminatory policy towards certain subjects.
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i have read the discussion.well,since we know that FPSC's scoring-scheme of different subjects is uneven,why don't candidates mention this stark reality in their suggestions to FPSC at the time of interview?
Are candidates afraid that something untoward will happen?
i have come to know through candidates who changed their subjects in favour of scoring ones that interview panel and psychologist asked them the reason and then themselves said that may be you did owing to the trend.
it is really heart wrenching that candidates don't dare to speak the truth and the FPSC panel also hides it discriminatory policy towards certain subjects.
I think you dont have first hand information. Most of the people i know, talked about this in their interviews. I myself discussed it with Rana Bhagwan Das. He got out of control and said every subject has its own criteria and you cannot compare geography with urdu or IR with history. In other words he himself admitted that there are some scoring subjects.
I said " Sir!Why not the same criteria for subjects having almost identical nature like science subjects should be equally rewarding, similarly all history related subjects should be marked with same yardstick"
I also recommended why not devise an upper or lower limit for each subject and then these limits be synchronised?
He remained silent!!!
So dear we do have courage and most of us talked about it. Every time candidate discussed about this, he was out of control as he was listening the same thing time and again...
My personal experience is that for 2,3 years the trend of the subjects remain same and then it changes...... Candidate should consider those subjects which have been scoring last year....
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@Sir Waseem Gurmani

I am thankful to you that you informed us that candidates wrote about the uneven marking scheme in CSS examination.However it is distressing to learn that Chairman was furious or mum.
Tell me Sir, how are we going to ascertain which trend will follow after a couple of years or next year?Do you think so that some CSPs were capable of forecasting the trend?
You kept geography in 2009 and you must have got 140.but what about the candidates who kept geography in 2010 and got a serious jolt.How can you say that your or any senior's predicted trend would get you off to a spectacular score.You opted indo-pak history.In 2008 indo-pak history fetched 140-highest.In 2009 average marks in indo-pak were 140 and maximum were around 160.And since you think that prognosticators or fortune-tellers are so smart then why didn't you or the others opt Islamic-history or psychology or Arabic?You could have easily been in POLICE.
Why doesn't Baghwandas admit that FPSC is following a discriminatory policy?He will never admit it because he has to defend the checking of his examiners.otherwise you will see candidates challenging the marking criteria.Why did candidates get 110 in Pol.Science and 188 in Islamic history?How can the Chairman justify that a girl who read only a formula book got 188 and candidates having master degree in Pol.Science could hardly score 110?This amply shows that Islamic history was treated a grade-10 paper by examiners.Candidates who opt for Pol.Science,International Relations are normally Master degree holders.It is just piece of cake for them to attempt I.R or Pol.Science.So the argument of Bghwandas that every subject has a unique criteria is self-defeating.There should be a common ceiling for all subjects.But,then we would come to know that CSS is not a kingmaker exam which it presently is.I will tell these things to Mr.Baghwandas.Let's see how does he respond.Thank you sir for telling us that you and other candidates put up a brave face. Congratulations on achieving excellent scores in CSS-2009.
CSS trend does favour many a candidate.i agree with you on this sir.But the predictions of CSPs or any academy person to get right is not always guaranteed.Do correct me with your valuable insight on this issue.any criticism is more than welcome.
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I am thankful to you that you informed us that candidates wrote about the uneven marking scheme in CSS examination.However it is distressing to learn that Chairman was furious or mum.
Tell me Sir, how are we going to ascertain which trend will follow after a couple of years or next year?Do you think so that some CSPs were capable of forecasting the trend?
You kept geography in 2009 and you must have got 140.but what about the candidates who kept geography in 2010 and got a serious jolt.How can you say that your or any senior's predicted trend would get you off to a spectacular score.You opted indo-pak history.In 2008 indo-pak history fetched 140-highest.In 2009 average marks in indo-pak were 140 and maximum were around 160.And since you think that prognosticators or fortune-tellers are so smart then why didn't you or the others opt Islamic-history or psychology or Arabic?You could have easily been in POLICE.
Why doesn't Baghwandas admit that FPSC is following a discriminatory policy?He will never admit it because he has to defend the checking of his examiners.otherwise you will see candidates challenging the marking criteria.Why did candidates get 110 in Pol.Science and 188 in Islamic history?How can the Chairman justify that a girl who read only a formula book got 188 and candidates having master degree in Pol.Science could hardly score 110?This amply shows that Islamic history was treated a grade-10 paper by examiners.Candidates who opt for Pol.Science,International Relations are normally Master degree holders.It is just piece of cake for them to attempt I.R or Pol.Science.So the argument of Bghwandas that every subject has a unique criteria is self-defeating.There should be a common ceiling for all subjects.But,then we would come to know that CSS is not a kingmaker exam which it presently is.I will tell these things to Mr.Baghwandas.Let's see how does he respond.Thank you sir for telling us that you and other candidates put up a brave face. Congratulations on achieving excellent scores in CSS-2009.
CSS trend does favour many a candidate.i agree with you on this sir.But the predictions of CSPs or any academy person to get right is not always guaranteed.Do correct me with your valuable insight on this issue.any criticism is more than welcome.
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I wasnt defending the marking criteria of FPSC. Main khud iss ka victim hun. My geography paper was best of all papers with 19 objectives correct. But i got 51 in this paper. This new trend was started in 2009 as you can clearly see the difference in paper patterns of 2009. I guess paper setting trend continues for three years and then it changes again. So i was telling you to closely observe the trend. In 2009 the geography paper 1 was the victim and in 2010 the case was repeated.
And i must say it again that there are some scoring subjects like regional languages are always scoring. International law is scoring most of the time. JOurnalism is scoring subject as well. So scrutinize before you go for subjects. Sorry i have very limted time and could not reply you extensively......
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@Sir Waseem

I am much thankful to your insightful and perceptive reply.Sir,you are right.But i take some exception that all regional languages except punjabi are highly scoring.Punjabi exacts a lot of competition.But i will still say that one never knows which subject will be scoring.Nevertheless,i am bound to take your opinion for granted-that some subjects you highlighted are scoring-at least until the CSS-2010 written and final result are declared.Once again my well wishes for you sir.Thank you very much.

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