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I dont agree that any subject is high or low scoring.However it is one's own aptitude in particular faculty which earns him or her more marks.It is full of fallacy to assume that if one takes Physics as one of the optional subjects he will earn low score and if he takes Islamic History and Culture he will get high score.These are fictitious thinkings that there exists any trend of low and high markings in Fpsc policy making.These are just mind boggling assesments of aspirants on inaccurate data,which is not reliable.
The examiner,who checks papers, is not just expert in assesment of papers but encompasses innumerable and undeniable grip and command on subject,he is assesing.Therefore, one should workhard instead of indulging into blame tirade.Because hard work is only reliable instrument that can earn you ,your spur.
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I dont agree that any subject is high or low scoring.However it is one's own aptitude in particular faculty which earns him or her more marks.It is full of fallacy to assume that if one takes Physics as one of the optional subjects he will earn low score and if he takes Islamic History and Culture he will get high score.These are fictitious thinkings that there exists any trend of low and high markings in Fpsc policy making.


These are just mind boggling assesments of aspirants on inaccurate data,which is not reliable.
The examiner,who checks papers, is not just expert in assesment of papers but encompasses innumerable and undeniable grip and command on subject
,he is assesing.Therefore, one should workhard instead of indulging into blame tirade.Because hard work is only reliable instrument that can earn you ,your spur.
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About first highlighted portion i agree to u to the extent that this is nt a FPSC policy but still it is so. U saying inaccurate data!!!!! Lolzzz. I am wondering if nt the results of last 5 yrs then waht else could be reliable data. im nt talking exceptionss they r always dere but in general its valid.
Lastly i really would hope that ur thoughts about examiner come true but till this pt they r nt. i happened to meet few.
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I am not sure what could be the underlying evidence of your startling findings which betrays our personal experiences as well as those of CSS candidates before us. Considering your choice of subjects and if the present trend continues, I am pretty confident that you of all people will experience the vast differences in scoring in different subjects (Political Science vs Islamic History will present an interesting study if you observe CE-2009 Result). There can be no better teacher than experience.

I believe your current position is based on sheer belief rather than any factual data. Perception is not always reality. The purpose is to warn candidates who might regret it in the future but you might actually have that extraordinary grasp and aptitude to defy our logic.
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While I entered this topic to check out the reasons for failure stated by Deadly Doctor, the ongoing discussion tied my eyes to the screen and I interestingly read the all the 3 pages. The opinion which I formed, I deem it inevitable to state it here:


Aptitude is essential for selecting optional subjects. In compulsory, it is absolutely inexcusable if you lack aptitude.
I also believe with some analysis and scrutinizing of facts that there exist some traditional high scoring subjects mainly regional languages. Similarly, there are conventional low scoring subjects too which include Economics, English Literature and others.
However, I think the main reason for this phenomenon is not the FPSC's assessment criteria/policy or Chairman's indifference to some subjects. It is purely the business of paper checkers who evaluate their subjects accordingly.
Since the purpose of aspirants is to pass it and get through it rather than carrying out research in any particular field, it would be in the best interest to consider surveying DMCs of past exams while finalizing their optional subjects.



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I am rephrasing your lines with some changes to elaborate it further.

Lack aptitude

There are many candidates who actually lack aptitude but go for it. For CSS one has to grow the thirst of knowledge to its heights. There are some basic reasons due to which many of the students appear in the CSS exam. Some of them are listed below:
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Hats off to you, miss! Though its a rephrasing of the previous post, yet it is novel per se as it offers a lucid explanation of why many aspirants do not succeed in bottling this css gennie.

I, on the part of many other aspirants, would request you to write a similar vivid and concrete measures which students must adopt to overcome the factors that contribute in failing him as well as any other suggestions based on your psychological perceptions of many candidates which you find beneficial for everyone over here.

We'd be highly obliged for your timely response.

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In my opinion Direction and focus of preparation is very important. We accumulate a lot of material, books and notes without discussing and focusing the need of preparation. We just need to focus towards right direction. This is a case with me...
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kindly please tell me ,should i opt law in pms ?i heard that it has so much lengthy syllabus . actually i m also a law graduate,so i know that i have to prepare all the statutes which r to be studied for exams of judiciary,and the time for pms exams is vry short .i wana kind advice ,should i make effort to opt law in pms as there r only 3 months for pms 2011.
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kindly please tell me ,should i opt law in pms ?i heard that it has so much lengthy syllabus . actually i m also a law graduate,so i know that i have to prepare all the statutes which r to be studied for exams of judiciary,and the time for pms exams is vry short .i wana kind advice ,should i make effort to opt law in pms as there r only 3 months for pms 2011.
Jahanzeb, I am a law graduate too, please let me know the details for the pms 2011 as well, please PM me your email address, or use mine from my profile to contact me.
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I'm sure that many will agree with me that in the last few years the trend of generalized questions in exams has been becoming more and more common.

this is a good and bad, good because it promotes originality in answering questions and using common sense rather than by-heart learning methodology. So, i think relying too much on Academy notes could result in a setback in compulsory or elective subjects. More competition is store.

For the interview part, i guess the need for business recorder and economics has become more important than ever before. So many questions on finance and economics. If u need to hit the home run, keep those business magazines in ur closet.
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@ Deadly Doctor

I am rephrasing your lines with some changes to elaborate it further.

Lack aptitude

There are many candidates who actually lack aptitude but go for it. For CSS one has to grow the thirst of knowledge to its heights. There are some basic reasons due to which many of the students appear in the CSS exam. Some of them are listed below:
  1. For the wish of their parents
  2. For following the example of some relative who is a CSP
  3. Being over-confident because some of their mates or friends has said that you cannot qualify CSS
  4. By being impressed for the perks and previliges a CSP owes in our society

There are many other reasons similar to these, such candidates lack aptitude and go for CSS on the basis of motivation that alone is insufficient to get the desired result. In short to qualify CSS is the dream as Albert Einstein said,
  • "Dream is not something that you see while sleeping rather it is something that don't let you sleep"

Poor Time Management

It is one of the biggest reason for failure in CSS. Poor time management before and during the exam brings failure to many. There are the students who poorly planned their preparation strategy and donot realize their strengths and weaknesses well before time. I have seen many students who score just ordinary marks in the subjects, were their strength just for poor time management before exams. They keep on planning for setting aside some time for said subjects but couldnt manage it so everytime make themselves believe that no problem we are so good in it thus it wont create any trouble, but it brings finally. There are thousands of examples where students attempt only 3 descriptive questions because they went into extra details without realizing the importance of attempting all four questions. So time management is most important for schematic preparation and well planned approach for attempting papers.


Weak Nerves

To me CSS is the test of your nerves as well. One has to be iron nerved during preparation and exams. Students who go for History of Indo-Pak along with Journalism and Sociology has real tough time caz they have to appear in 10 consecutive papers mean from Saturday to Thursday and its really nerve breaking. Your fingers will stiff, shoulder muscles will swell and above all sleeplessness will cause bad stomach and body pains. Its only for those having weak nerves while those have trained themselves well before time go through it smoothly. In a report published by FPSC enumerated that highest ratio of qualifying CSS is among Dr, and Engineers and the simple reason is strong nerves and excellent time management that they learn during their course of studies.

Improper Guidelines

Many of the students lack guidance thus they fell prey to failure. There are very few competent people available to guide for CSS. It is hard to find a person who has gone through this iron test and knows how this jinnie should be bottled. I have seen many of the students while first go to academy dont even know how many papers they have to appear? and what should be the selection. With such poor knowledge they join academies, pay handsome money and during their 3 months, only realize that CSS is a hard nut to crack. They make unmatched subject selection due to their little knowledge. I have seen students selecting certain subjects due to following common reasons;
  1. Academy offers specific subjects so they go for them
  2. Some friend / relative / cousin had suggested because one of their friend qualified CSS with same selection

This kind of negligence becomes a hurdle in their way. While I went for CSS a teacher said to me while selecting subjects keep in mind following do's and dont's;

Do's
  1. Subject that pleases you
  2. Subject you have background knowledge
  3. Subject you ever have read during your academic years
  4. Must go through the syllabus outlines, recommended books, past papers

Dont's
  1. Choose subjects randomly
  2. Select on the basis of suggestions of others
  3. Select because it is said to be highly scoring

His Do's and Dont's really proved effective during last few years.

Lack of Personal Effort

There are very few students who make personal effort for preparing CSS and those who make, earn its benifit. Those who rely upon ready-made notes, written material available in the form of Dogar's, Jahangir's and Ilmi's books couldnt score well because their answer lacks novelty and personal effort. Such material is produced by almost 60% of the candidates thus examiner score them so low.

Their are the subjects that need in-depth study like EDS, Current Affairs and Pak Affairs so aspirants has to make concerted efforts to grasp the concepts. In Pakistan Bloom's Taxonomy is applied in very few fields and CSS is one among them where you have to complete all 6 steps before sitting in the exam.

Weak general expression

Its another weakness that is intolerable for the CSS examiner. Science students usually have weak expression due to the nature of their academic background. Although they know well how to attempt the paper and what should be the course of action, how material has to be related to the topic. When we say general expression we mean good command of english language and its grammatics.

To be continued..........
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Asalam u alaikum.
The way u illuminated the problems is commendable.

I want to stress on the DO's and NOT's.. specially regarding subject selection and asking everyone for subjects that are scoring and less scoring and subjects that are easily prepared.. likewise i am asking you here now..
I am determined to attempt in 2012, InshaALLAH, and i have the following mix:-
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Indo-Pak history (200)░(this is suggested by others and i have no as such desire for this paper)
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Journalism (100)
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above u said poor course selection may also lead to failure um bit confused abt dat kindly guide me abt course election
kia her group ma sa 1 subject ko select kr na haa??
i made the selection
journlism
law
indo pk history
compute science
is it right plzz guide me
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