Passing thrice written+viva means one is capable enough to be a CSP.How can you say that he isn't good in viva voce? Even topper of CE 2011 has got 171 marks in viva,as he is already a CSP,and I'm sure last time he would have scored 200 plus marks in viva.Just FYI,a member of cssforum,who had got 170+ in viva in ce 2010,he unfortunately failed to pass viva this year.If he is wrong this time,how could he be good in ce 2010?

This year,members of the panel have not remained the same,thus FPSC failed to provide level ground for all qualifiers.

oh brother but there is a merit and competition system in css
you have to be in top 200
there are many things which makes viva marks
confidence+intelligence+current affair knowledge of that year+his answers in psychological test+his group discussion,may be he performed not good this time
so is this mean who performed well he should not given good marks
and only marks should be given to those who perform well in written
this is not good approach
if a person who has 700+marks is getting 150 marks in viva then there is also a person who got 700+ in written and 200+ in viva
so you cant claim and justify that fpsc pannel done unjust to aspirants
they award marks in a way that written doesnt affect and it depends on person's confidence,intelligence,current affairs knowledge and psychological test
moreover may be that person was overconfident and he thought he will get same marks this year and may be he didnt prepared well and thats why he got fail or may be he was not good in group discussion
but tell me why you people are blamming fpsc without proof
is it a rational thinking? what is the sin of those who have passed.. you mean they were not deserving? simple.. they got more marks than the person who didnt get allocated, and this is after all a competition, if a person is not selected then why blaming the system ? why not ourself.. and that what i pointed ...

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You need not to tell me all this.I have been through this process.How come all his abilities which were present in previous year got vanished in a year?

Where did i say that?
Like I said in my previous post.Members of the panel have not remained the same throughout Interview phase.Some people are generous in giving numbers,while others are not.This time there was frequent changing of panel members.Probably this was the reason many candidates got average low score in viva this time.
Written marks does affect in viva.
Where did i say that Passing people aren't deserving?And I'm just blaming you as you publicly tried to disgrace a person,who has qualified css thrice,with your analysis cum lecture.

I've been following this thread for a long time and after reading everything I've drawn my conclusion which is

Shallow Water is justified in his anger to some extent....... the Viva/interview is a flawed method one can't ever objectively award marks to any person. I don't doubt the integrity of the Interview panel but they are human too and prone to human errors. Unless and untill some one proposes and implements an objective method of evaluating candidates, we'd be just running around in circles.

I would also request the members to refrain from pointing fingers the Topic starter is clearly depressed and we must encourage him.

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@ Kamran, Mechrose,

Thanks for backing my view point. I would like to tell that i got 162 marks in viva in 2011, 169 in 2010 and 179 in 2009. so confidence is not an issue. I dared to sacrifice everything for CSS. Today i am much more happy than even those allocated who are regretting that they didnt get desired group.

@ Hassan Razzaq

Dear you have every right to criticize but obviously there has to be something in it. I cleared CSS thrice, written, viva everything. Koi aur ham sa ho to samnay aaye. FPSC has no reason actually to explain why didnt they allocate me.

1 more thing is that just giving favor in viva is not the only way of influencing the result. If inside information is leaked that this subject will be more scoring in this year so someone opts that subject and gets 170 out of 200 in written?? Then what kind of competition it is? I have been through all this so i know better.

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safdar bhai mei ne abhi apki DMC dekhi hai, written mei is lie kam marks hain kion ke indopak aur pol science mei kam hain
bilqul sach baat ap keh rahay ho ke scoring trend koi real competition nhe hai,har subject equally scoring hona cahaeye,mera bhi bilqul yehi khayal hai
written ke scoring trend ke wajah se agr ap allocate na ho sakay toh yeh waqehe naimsafi hai,yeh kesa competition hua ke aik shaks ko kuch marks miltay hain n dosray ko ziada mehnat ke bawajood kam
but bhai mera phr dubara ap se ikhtilaf hai
ap post me yeh kahain na k written scoring trend aur paper checker ne na insafi ke,intrvw panel ke 3 logon ne toh apko utnay he marks die na jitnay ap 2009,2010 mei le rahay thay,is baar bhi taqreeban utnay he diye,toh un 3 ka koa kasoor? ap me un pe jo ilz lagaye,wo kese apko marks detay jab k intrvew me is se ziada mil he mhe saktay thay apko
aur yeh bhi ghalat ha k ap kaho ke info leak hui,bhai sari dunia janti ha ke konsa scoring rahay ga, indopak toh hamesha low scoring hai,phr bhi usay rakhna bhi ghalat hai,jo itnay log allocate huay unhy koi info nhe mili,unho ne trend dkh ke guess kia,yeh unki achi search the..
akhir me meri ap se request hai ke ap blamming attittude choor dain,ap ko intrvw mei 30 aur marks bhi mil jatay aur written mei bhi 30 aur mil jaty tab bhi allocation mushkil hoti na? ap khud dekho is baar 161 merit pe 860 marks wala hai aur uski allocation nhe ho rhe,toh jab ghalti apni bhi ho toh dosron per ilzam kion lagaya jaue bina proof,han scoring trend ke khilaf protest hona chaheye but yeh bhi sirf apke lie nhe hai sab ke lie hai.. pannel yeh toh nhe dekhay ga na k ap 3rd time a rahay ho toh apko 250 no de ke har surat pass kia jae,us ne apna kam imandari se krna hai aur yeah prove bhi ho gaya kion ke pannel ne jitnay marks apko 2009 aur 2010 mei diye,taqreeban utnay he 2011 mei diye,is se aik baat aur bhi sabit hoti hai ke pannel esay he marks nhe de deta balkay koi tareeqa hai jo har bar ap usi range mei a rahay ho warna tph kabhi kuch atay aur kabhi kuch
i hope ap jo sahi lagay usay zarur mano gay aur stil pannel ko blamme nhw karo gay

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