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"Kashmir men 50 saal se aazadi ki jang lari ja rahi hai."
translate it in English without changing the basic structure.
dear first of all Thanks for reply and now translation of your given sentence:

In Kashmir the war of freedom has been fighting since 50 yrs.

Check it dear. and reply am i right?

Sky is blue. (passive it)

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Sky is blue. (passive it)

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I told you , not all sentences can be changed into passive voice. And this is also one of them. One can give trillions of such sentences which cant be converted into passive voice. Out of 12 tenses 3 tenses don't have passive voice, and there are also many other sentences which don't have passive voice. the rule to find such sentences I mentioned in my previous post.

And about translation, Sorry dear the translation is wrong.

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And about translation, Sorry dear the translation is wrong.
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Dear then tell me.

and change it into passive. These mangoes taste sour
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Dear then tell me.

and change it into passive. These mangoes taste sour
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I guess you are not in mood to get what I'm trying to tel you about passive voice.
there are uncountable sentences which don't have passive voice.
I told you the rule of passive voice if the simple past tense of that sentence in Urdu has "ne" in it, then you can change it otherwise not. its so simple and i even gave you an example but don't know why are you not getting that point.

And as i told you there are 3 tenses which don't have passive voice grammatically and that Kashmir sentence is one of them.

But your sentence was totally wrong, you simply made "fight for freedom a noun" and that cant be a noun. and secondly the sentence is passive voice and you translated it active voice.

So to translate such sentences you either have to change their basic structure and then translate,
like "the fight for freedom is on in kashmir since last 50 years"
or in any other way possible by changing the basic structure of sentence.

And if forcefully you are not allowed to change the basic structure and have to translate it exactly then the closest possible translation would be this
" The fight for freedom in Kashmir has been being fought Since last 50 years"

This is not grammatically correct, but grammar doesn't tell anything about such sentences..
In English there is no passive voice of 3 Perfect continuous tenses. and this was one of them" so these too don't have passive voice in English grammar.
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dear ok but you think, these mangoes taste sour, can't change into passive, have a look on it. these mangoes are sour when they are tested.

tell me is it wrong even yet.

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Well, frankly saying the passive voice you told, does not fulfill the necessary needs of passive voice (at least in my point of view), may be its hybrid, that's why it feels so to me. Ask some expert in English grammar and im sure this sentence will not be accepted as passive voice (at least not pure passive voice) of that sentence.
With what flaws, and why. sorry I'm not expert as i earlier said i just dont know the names and rules itself but i some how mange to follow them
But in fact a nice attempt.
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Below are five sentences each containing a common grammatical error. Make the necessary corrections:[/B]

i) Where a very different atmosphere in the town this morning than there was yesterday.
ii) Every one must decide for themselves what to do about it.(HIMSELF)
iii) I shouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t turn up tomorrow.
iv) Neither Farooq or Akbar are going to the wedding lunch on Saturday.(NOR,IS)
v) I compared his essay to Mushtaq’s and found them to be almost identical.(THAT OF MUSHTAQ'S)
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b) Correct the spelling of the following ten words:

i) occurance(OCCURENCE) ii) esctacy(ECTASY)
iii) drunkeness (DRUNKENNESS)iv) irrisistible(IRRESISTABLE)
v) supercede(SUPERSEDE) vi) embarrasing(EMBARRASSING)
vii) dissapoint (DISSAPPOINT)viii) occasional(OCCASIONAL)
ix) indespensible (INDESPENSABLE)x) preserverance.(PRESERVERANCE)

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b) Correct the spelling of the following ten words:

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ii) esctacy (ECTASY)
Ecstasy
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iv) irrisistible (IRRESISTABLE)
Irresistible
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vii) dissapoint (DISSAPPOINT)
Disappoint
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x) preserverance. (PRESERVERANCE)
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b) Correct the spelling of the following ten words:

i) occurance(OCCURENCE) ii) esctacy(ECTASY)
iii) drunkeness (DRUNKENNESS)iv) irrisistible(IRRESISTABLE)
v) supercede(SUPERSEDE) vi) embarrasing(EMBARRASSING)
vii) dissapoint (DISSAPPOINT)viii) occasional(OCCASIONAL)
ix) indespensible (INDESPENSABLE)x) preserverance.(PRESERVERANCE)

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Please recorrect the following:
i) occurance(OCCURENCE)
Occurrence
ix) indespensible (INDESPENSABLE)
Indispensable
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Below are five sentences each containing a common grammatical error. Make the necessary corrections:[/B]

i) Where a very different atmosphere in the town this morning than there was yesterday.
ii) Every one must decide for themselves what to do about it.(HIMSELF)
iii) I shouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t turn up tomorrow.
iv) Neither Farooq or Akbar are going to the wedding lunch on Saturday.(NOR,IS)
v) I compared his essay to Mushtaq’s and found them to be almost identical.(THAT OF MUSHTAQ'S)
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1.There is a very different atmosphere in the town this morning than it was yesterday.
2.Everyone must decide for himself what to do about it.
3.I shall not be surprised if he will not turn up tomorrow.
4.Neither Farooq nor Akbar is going to the wedding lunch on saturday.
5.I compared his eassy to that of Mustaq and found them to be almost identical.
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