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I have been very honest in pointing out what I felt should be improved and I hope you take it positively. As I have already said, I am no authority on essay writing and you may want to seek further help from qualified people. The points in my view are that 1) You need to broaden the horizon of your essay (by including things like historic introduction of the subject, definitions of the keywords, world view about the subject etc.) 2) You need to make a better and more detailed outline 3) You need to improve the flow in your writing. and 4) All of these things are not difficult at all, you have the ability. Overall, this is a very appreciable attempt and better than many essays I have read.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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I owe you every second you've spent on checking my essay and I can't imagine that you are still open for question. You are simply great. I have lots of questions. Thank you very much for your honesty. Please tell me one more thing honestly; can I manage to improve the flow in my writing within three months? I am ready to put all my efforts but I don't know how. My plan was to write something daily, make a precis of dawn editorial daily, going through all the material here in CSS forum and doing all the past papers. (My base is not very strong and so is evident in my writing expression)
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If you couldn't pass CSS 2010, then God help me. I am grateful...will be waiting for the next part. Plz share your view about the question....Can?
coz you can't ignore existing male domination which is definitely exploited. And we can't call them rights provided by our religion. Women are needed for every kind of labor, in Pakistan (mostly rural areas) and no liberty to move around, choose and express. I am talking about small things that make big difference.
Our society is not civilized to provide women the due comfort.
Things are changing young lady! So the answer is yes. See the Paper did not ask whether they ARE equal at the moment. It asked whether a day CAN come when they will be equality.

The part where i handled this question comes next. So wait for that ...and pray for my interview as well..The rest of the paper also discussed why things were the way they were.

P.S look in the major towns and cities around you, i.e. Peshawar, Lahore, Islamabad etc etc. Trend is changing ...Society's outlook is changing.. and apart from a few, all the revolutions/ideas etc have been initiated by the urban intellectuals or the urban middle class intelligenstia...so keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best :P
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I owe you every second you've spent on checking my essay and I can't imagine that you are still open for question. You are simply great. I have lots of questions. Thank you very much for your honesty. Please tell me one more thing honestly; can I manage to improve the flow in my writing within three months? I am ready to put all my efforts but I don't know how. My plan was to write something daily, make a precis of dawn editorial daily, going through all the material here in CSS forum and doing all the past papers. (My base is not very strong and so is evident in my writing expression)
Yes, three months are more than enough for you make really good improvements in your writing style. I'll say that as far as writing style is concerned, you can even do it in 15 days. Rest is the vocabulary which is an ongoing process and the more you read quality write-ups the better your vocabulary gets.

I'll suggest you to search the internet a bit, find some professionally written essays and then try to see how the opening, climax and closing of these essays is done. In this way you'll learn how to go about thinking on the topic you have in front of you. Also, you'll get an idea on how the flow in the writing is created. It all depends on your thoughts, the more your thoughts are in a sequence, the better your outline is and the better the outline, the easier it becomes to maintain a flow in your essay.

Dawn etc. will definitely improve your vocabulary but will prove less effective for understanding a writing style especially for essays. That's why I am suggesting you to go for some professionally written essays on socio-political topics.

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Dawn etc. will definitely improve your vocabulary but will prove less effective for understanding a writing style especially for essays. That's why I am suggesting you to go for some professionally written essays on socio-political topics.

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Thank you for the suggestion, I’ll do that. Will you please suggest me more? Please tell me how you prepared exactly. The way I was preparing didn’t prove much fruitful. Pleaseeeeee suggest a study plan….and be specific coz um gonna do exactly what you suggest. Also, my subjects indo-pak history, public ad, journalism, forestry couldn’t score this time (only pushto did) but I feel like changing them. What do you think?
I know I am being sticky ….just few more questions…and I won’t bother you much then. I hope you don’t start regretting why you checked my essay

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Things are changing young lady! So the answer is yes. See the Paper did not ask whether they ARE equal at the moment. It asked whether a day CAN come when they will be equality.

The part where i handled this question comes next. So wait for that ...and pray for my interview as well..The rest of the paper also discussed why things were the way they were.

P.S look in the major towns and cities around you, i.e. Peshawar, Lahore, Islamabad etc etc. Trend is changing ...Society's outlook is changing.. and apart from a few, all the revolutions/ideas etc have been initiated by the urban intellectuals or the urban middle class intelligenstia...so keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best :P
Well, i will accept things are changing when my brother changes. He is born and brought up in Islamabad,well educated...but still a "Pathan" ..don't even let me drive and he is one super debator on women rights. If this is the situation in my house...then God help my rest of relitives back their in village...1000 of them maybe. Then..I'v been reporting (i was a journalist) the welfare and NGO's secter and managed to track down the better NGOs. Situation of women in rural areas is more then bad (I am only talking about what data i have seen and the horrible documentries on bonded labour. I should come back with the data.
But the issue is, educated or not..aware or not...the STATUS OF WOMAN is not equal to man from small and large scale decision making and freedom to do and move around. Even when she becomes financially independent, she has to deal with the complexes of the males around her.
I know i am talking from a small horizan but i just felt that guys might can't feel it...or don't consider these points among "equality".
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Well, i will accept things are changing when my brother changes. He is born and brought up in Islamabad,well educated...but still a "Pathan" ..don't even let me drive and he is one super debator on women rights. If this is the situation in my house...then God help my rest of relitives back their in village...1000 of them maybe. Then..I'v been reporting (i was a journalist) the welfare and NGO's secter and managed to track down the better NGOs. Situation of women in rural areas is more then bad (I am only talking about what data i have seen and the horrible documentries on bonded labour. I should come back with the data.
But the issue is, educated or not..aware or not...the STATUS OF WOMAN is not equal to man from small and large scale decision making and freedom to do and move around. Even when she becomes financially independent, she has to deal with the complexes of the males around her.
I know i am talking from a small horizan but i just felt that guys might can't feel it...or don't consider these points among "equality".
Well as far as your brother is concerned rest assured he cares a lot for you. it's just that we brother tend to (What i call) "Tangify" our sisters. well that is one of the picture that we are looking at (refering to all the Zulm etc etc). It is only in countries like Pakistan where you hear terms like "Chor do Chor do! Ladies hayn" or "Ladies k liyay jagga choro" or something like that.

This is something that i pointed out in my Essay as well. We only tend to look at all those Zulms but completely ignore the sunny side for Women in Pakistan.

Secondly Equality does not mean Equality in every respect. In some things women are superior to men and in other respects the otherwise is true. But as human beings and members of this society they are equal.

Thirdly, we are growing in a hybrid type of an environment. We are impressed with the Western outlook of life, but we stick to our Islamic values. We tend to cling to one or the other whenever it suits us. For example, at times several X Y Z famous Lady would come on the TV and start quoting Quran. But she completely ignores the injunctions of Quran about Pardah or forgets that Islam does not give women the voting rights.

So we need to firstly choose the outlook of life and then deal with the situation at hand. So the answer is that yes Women can be equal to men in Pakistan. Because the privileges you enjoy today were something of a dream for your mother or your grandmother.
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Thank you for the suggestion, I’ll do that. Will you please suggest me more? Please tell me how you prepared exactly. The way I was preparing didn’t prove much fruitful. Pleaseeeeee suggest a study plan….and be specific coz um gonna do exactly what you suggest. Also, my subjects indo-pak history, public ad, journalism, forestry couldn’t score this time (only pushto did) but I feel like changing them. What do you think?
I know I am being sticky ….just few more questions…and I won’t bother you much then. I hope you don’t start regretting why you checked my essay

For the essay I did not prepare anything and handled it on the exam day only but I don't suggest anyone to do the same, it's a mistake and I was lucky to get away with it.

As far as further suggestion is concerned I'm more than happy to extend any help I can but honestly, the best suggestion is to not rely on advice from a single person. I hope you understand this, it's naturally true. I don't have any experience with at least two of your optionals and my advice may or may not work for the rest. I hope you understand why.

Anyhow, a general strategy that I followed for all the papers was to read the recommended book(s) cover to cover once and then prepare a list of questions from the past 10 years papers. I covered all the question from that list (about 40-60 questions per subject). This made me understand the stuff and I was able to reproduce in my own words very easily.

Now I won't suggest you to change the subjects. I passed with Indo-Pak History and Journalism. You never know the trend, so if you are some where in the middle of preparing these subjects, it's better for you not to change them.

Last advice, search this forum! I am very sure that answers to all your questions are already posted some where in the threads. If you don't like the forum's search feature (I don't) then I have a tip for you. Open google.com and in the search box write [your query] site:http://www.cssforum.com.pk Google will show you all the results from this site only.

Hope this helps you and no I don't feel bothered by questions.

All the best.
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u need to focus on the question , can they b equal????? thats it! I attempted the same and scored 47.

say yes or no and then prove it! Don't detrack urself in explaining the plight of women! cheers!

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say yes or no and then prove it! Don't detrack urself in explaining the plight of women! cheers!
What was your answere, yes or no...and why?
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I can't reproduce the exact words but will give you a glimse. first of all what is women equality? it should be in the context of our cultural, religious and historic values and not a blind following of western so called women equality.

Then, Yes women can b equal to men in Pakistan if the following conditions fullfilled.

first, if constitution implemented in true letter and spirit.then a few articles of the constitution supporting my point.

second, f true Islamic teachings followed.then a few AYATH AND HADITH And women storys of that age.


third, f they r properly educated.then quaids and a few other quotes. and current data.


fourth, if they r brought to the mainstream. then story of a few successful women.

fifth, women development.

sixth, political empowerment

seventh, economic upheavel.

eighth, moral and ethical support

ninth, women's own responsibility. and then a few quotes.Following was one of those. "as a woman i have no country, as a women my country is the whole world"

then a few more arguments


then conclusion.


thats the end of the story!
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hmm..Nice.
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