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Sir, I totally agree with you and in post you have mentioned about C.S.S. 2007 in which just 3500 candidates had appeared & funny thing is this my elder bro also appeared in 2007 for the 1st time(also his last chance) and he got 110 merit and got allocation in IRS(Inland Revenue Service).
He is DC(IR) in Sahiwal city. (Zulfiqar Ali)
And last thing is this one of my friend's bro(Muhammad Adnan Rashid) cleared C.S.S written 2013. So all these detail are in fact to uphold your opinion.
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First of all , I really feel sorry for all of those who failed to make it. There is a very personal reason for this empathy that I harbour for those who couldnt pass the written exam: my younger brother, a cousin and a close friend met the same fate.*

Now, after reading comments of ladies and gentlemen on this thread I felt sorry for two reason. First, of course, failure is a heart rendering experience, and for me anyone's failure is a sorry sight. Second, seeing the fragility of human rationality is painful. I mean, hearing many of my friends here grousing about some conspiracy hatched by FPSC, the Commision being vengeful, and bla bla bla, is in itself a harrowing affair. Denial and rationalisation are the most oft used defence mechanisms by us, the superior mortals. Before taking this exam, one should be knowing that Luck does play a role. There is something we call fate. This exams, somehow, decides your fate. Being a competitive exam and the availibility of very few slots *available each year, make the result much more dependent on luck. Because at the end 10 marks decide your allocation in top 3 groups or being not allocated. And getting one objective right by sheer stroke of luck in each paper is not such a big deal ( what we call " tukkay"). And as expected , English essay and composition would be responsible for most of the casualties. I have seen many who just prepared ( read: crammed) one essay, and they hit the jackpot when they found the exact same essay in question paper. So, no matter how good you are at English, you cannot compete with that guy because you are under pressure, writing the essay for the first time, likely to make mistakes, mismanage time and myriad of other factors hindering you from being at par with someone who prepared the very same essay at home, got it checked by a competent teacher, edited and , rechecked it by the teacher and after getting a nod from his teacher, crammed it, practised writing it at home, making sure that it wouldn't take more than two and half hours so that it can be rechecked for any possible error. So, the point this lesser mortal is trying to make is that luck does play a role. Period.*

* Now, why the pass percentage so low? Now, I'm not trying to tell you guys that I'm a sage, but after my younger brother got through all his papers, I gave him some money and told him to go and enjoy himself with his friends. After a week when he came back, I told him to start preparing For 2014. You know why? Cuz I didn't see him fit. He didn't have the command. A friend of his, a doctor by profession, was predicted to pass the exam, and luckily he did. Why luckily? Because he was well prepared and luck didn't turn against him. Because there are many who are deserving candidates, but it really seems that their luck had turned AGAINST them. But there are many many and many such guys who are not well prepared. So the appearing of 11000 candidates doesn't make this exam more competitive. The real competition had always among the first 1000 guys. A very close friend of mine, who passed BA exam in 4 attempts is also an aspirant. And the guy I mentioned before( who passed) has been a topper throughout his life. So, a low pass percentage should not be such an enigmatic issue. In 2007, only 3500( not exact figure) candidates appeared. That was musharraf's era; lots of business was brought to country eg the telecom sector; country was brimming with NGOs offering hefty salaries. Gone are the days. No jobs for qualified engineers,the filthy pall of unemployment and despondency cast over *the country, youth has no where to go. So CSS is a good opportunity. Those who worked for three or four years got sacked ,or are in a position where they don't see any growth. So, within 6 years the figure has soared from 3500to 11000. All that I said was not meant to disparage your efforts or your talent. Shit happens, but this is life and let's face it. But there is one thingthat makes me sick :seeing everyone here in this country paranoid. As a nation we have a collective delusion that the whole world is conspiring against us. I really feel bad when I see the youth being grasped by such despondency. Cheer up and lets go for another try. There are a legion of example who qualified CSS in their third attempt. Only persistence can beat talent. So be persistent, get rid of all rot thoughts, have faith in the One who is omnipotent, give your best Nd leave the rest to Him with Whose will runs this FPSC and this country.*

And yeah, a last thing: don't get shocked by those who qualified last year and failed this year. There are many examples who qualified their first attempt but couldn't make it in the second.and yeah, there is one on this forum with the same fate but the good news is that he qualified his third attempt and is now serving in Customs, MASHALLAH. Why it happens? There are a raft of reasons: luck is not always a kind lady; our effort like our faith is never constant, it keeps on wavering; your competitors as well as paper checker change every year ,and many more.*

Tail piece:many a time, while writing this piece I hit the back space. I wanted to delete what I wrote; I didn't want to be so harsh , so heartless, trying to sound so pragmatic when many of you are feeling that your worlds have fallen apart, your dreams have shattered, your hopes dashed. But then I thought, why be a hypocrite, when i can say the very same words to My own brother, then why not to those whom I have never seen, never met, have no feelings for. So , guys, I'm really sorry for pouring out my heart. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I may be wrong and I take responsibility for that, for I'm a naive and I'm not the one who is going through the ordeal that you guys are going through. *I understand that many things are easier said than done .So, I apologise in advance. Stay blessed, be content and may you all find the undeserved bliss where ever you go. *
totally agreed with you brother.

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Dude all of this happened in a year when the credibility of FPSC was being questioned. its not paranoia. its a fact. the logic of your argument is no different than ours. you are using the same facts to rationalize the decisions of FPSC. FPSC can make mistakes. They are not God. institutions make cruel decisions when those at the helm of affairs think that they will never face any consequences if they make wrong decisions.

i wonder when people like you rationalize mismangement of FPSC with bad luck of students. how funny and ironic that this year the mismanagement of FPSC rose (in the form of Faislabad cheating fiasco) and suddenly the bad luck of students increased and the failing ratio increased from 91% to 98%. i wonder if u ponder at this correlation !!!!!!

every year a lot of students gets failed .. in thousands. but u never heard such a cry. dude its seems obvious that there was a conscious attempt by FPSC to establish its credibility by punishing some of the really deserved and brilliant students who in normal circumstances would have passed.

i agree that most of us would have failed anyway and yes we need to improve our level of preparation in english and other subjects .... but a lot of unjust has occurred to various brilliant students.


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When there is a strong desire for success, failure hurts deep inside.
Agreed.

In 2006, I went to ISSB Karachi for PAF-CAE-69 to serve my life for my country after 3 days later I got an envelop which was given to me by ISSB for writing my home address myself. Actually it was my result letter with words

"Not Recommended"

This is the first failure of my life . Since then I have been facing the same results in more than 100 job tests, interviews and exams (2 attempts of CSS) till today. I am really sorrow and upset since last 2 days when CE-2013 result is announced because this was my last attempt as I am over age now. I did not check my name or roll number because it hearts me if I didn't found it among the lucky candidates but today I had checked my marks sheet on FPSC site...

Maine life ko bohat qareeb se dekha har us cheez ko khoya jis ko hasil kerna chaha a bitter experience of life. Nakami pe kabhi is system ko bura bhala kehta tou kabhi qismat ko tou kabhi khud ko. In sub ko kuch kehne se kya faida lekin us kay bawajood har bar yehi laga kay shayad is bar pass ho jaon magar...

Maine ab tak ki apni puri life is "Shayad"ko khatam kerne kay liae koshish ki failure pe failure ka saamna kiya or ker raha hon magar is nakami ne jahan mujhy rulaya or ghamzada kiya wahied aik cheek zaror sikhai kay "Mustaqil mezaji (consistency)" se hi aap apni zindagi se pachtaway ko nikal bahar ker sakte ho jo maine kiya hai.

1 ya 2 failures pe himmat harna ker beth jana hi asl mein hi "Asl Nakami" hoti hai ye nakamiyo ne sikhaya mujhy. Jo log aesa kertay hain un ki life mein ek kasak si baqi reh jati hai kay "shayad pass ho jata agar 1 try or ker leta tou" or yehi wo pachtawa hota hai jo us kay sath sath zindagi bhar chalta hai jo bohat takleef dah hota tha goya maine aesa nahi kiya apni puri koshish ki magar Allah kay har kaam mein koi na koi maslehat hoti hai. Nakami bhi aik Kamiyabi hoti hai jo insaan ko accellerate kerti hai agay barhne ko. Jo ye nahi ker pata wohi asl nakaam insaan hota hai. Maine kabhi life mein us waqt tak haar nahi mani jab tak 100% haar na ho jati 99% har or 1% jeet kay chance pe bhi fight ki or pehle se ziada behtar tiyyari ki kyun kay nakami mujhy hamesha or kernay ka hosla bakhsha yehi waja hai kay aaj mujhy kisi cheez ka pachtawa nahi or phir se PCS or FPSC apply kiya huwa hai yehi socha hai kay "shayad is bar pass ho jaon"

One side my elder brother only gave one test in his life and toped in SPSC Medical Officer and sister gave 2 exams in life one for FPSC English Lecture and CE-2011 and by the grace of Allah she got both jobs' appointment letters at the same time but she chose CSP-PAAS and now in Jan-14 she is going to start her Bureaucratic Career in PAAS. On the other side I had never ever passed any test or exam yet.

Luck plays a vital role in life
those who said "luck nahi mehnat se hi pass hota hai candidate" tou CSS-13 result gave their answer because there are many candidates were brilliant in studies I personally known them.

So, Himmat haarna hi asl nakami hoti hai agar css mein 1 bar failure mila tou 2nd time or ziada mehnat karo or agar 2 bar failure ho tou bhi himmat na haro or last attempt ki try karo mar kabhi koi chance na choro kyun kay ye "shayad or kaash" aap ko besukun rakhta hai. Always prepare yourself for the worst kyun kay is se in shocked nahi hota. Mehnat khoob karo or result Allah pe chor do or agar fail ho jao tou next try karo magar himmat na haaro success and failure are the parts of life. Kuch hum qabil nahi hotay tou kuch luck sath nahi deti magar is ka ilzaam dosro pe kyun dalna.

I am really happy because I tried my best now want to say Good Bye to CSS (only CSS not PCS ) from my life but Allah knows better and wish you all for the best and hope you'll always fight till end and never give up. I come to know that Success always has zigzag track not straight Read my signature what I have written.
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The Waqas:
Till today ,I only knew how to spell " perseverance" ; after reading your post I understood its real meaning. Impressive brother. I dont believe in accidents; everything is meticulously planned by the Ultimate Planner. Impressed is all that I can say. Bravo!
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@ Waqas

CSS plays fairly. After reading your post, I realize why you failed 3 times consecutively. Anyways, keep trying, may be you can achieve something better than CSS. I firmly believe that hard work really pays, but you may not know in what aspect.

@Psycho Empire

Although, I gave your post 5 stars, but it seems like you have added fuel to some old discussions. I loved your post, there is no doubt in it. But Faisalabad fiasco is a reality, and no one can deny it, I think so. FPSC keeps on improving every year. Anyways, as I said earlier, CSS always plays fairly.

Someone posted about the unfair treatments in interview, I disagree with him/her. Interview doesn't rely on "Parchi" system at all. Yeah, there might be few exceptional cases, probably 1%, but on the whole, this is the only exam in Pakistan which purely claims merit.
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@waqas

impressive!!

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you are obsessed with css.improve yourself
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Great effort from psyco empire-
Thx for providing the material which is hear touching and will prove to be a bandage on our wounds of failure in css-2013.
Really we donot think that there remain weakness in our preparation-
Essay and composition need to be checked again and again from qualified teacher so that we may purge from all weaknesses-
css is really a risky and time consuming job but it is big job too, so we must not loose heart to try again in 2014 or onward-
we will not forget that ALLAH does not make injustice with man nor he wastes the effort of man, if our preparation of CSS donot bear fruit here, it can benefit man in other field as well-
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Psycho Empire;
All your posts are brilliant and highly appreciating bro because it'll help many aspirants heal their unimaginable wounds with their hopes and dreams being shattered courtesy of such disastrous result announced this year and yes you're right God Almighty has a bigger plan for us all and hence upon not qualifying CSS, one shouldn't lose hope and confidence and must pursue different paths and careers in their lives but not in my case. I've been living and breathing CSS and literally I'm deeply obsessed by it, Whatever I do and wherever I go, I'm always consumed by CSS thoughts. Becoming CSP is the ultimate goal and dream and it has completely taken over my life in all aspects, Though I'll be appearing in my first attempt in CE-2015 but for the past year or so I've been possessed by the demon of CSS, everything revolves around it. To me its a DO or DIE case because I haven't even considered an alternate career or job and thats why I haven't even applied for one. The point being, Yes all this nice talk and motivational posts are worth pondering and beneficial to some but right now there are so many aspirants like me who are completely shattered to the core because their dreams of becoming CSPs have been crushed and they will require alot of time to recover from this phase.
I apologize if my post seems a bit harsh and I'm not discrediting your valuable sentiments that must have inspired and uplifted so many devastated souls for which I'm so grateful and obliged.
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This is a great piece of encouragement,handwork .consistency and ethics. I salute you sir Psychic Empire.Because it reinvigorates my passion for CSS. Once again thanks a lot brother..may God bestow you much more honor and dignity..
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always approach your failures with a cool and calculated way, failures are part of life but your morale and courage must be intact because this is the secret of success.
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How can they explain 4/100 marks in my essay? (Meaning and Purpose of Education)

Did O/A Levels, read 1500 pages novels daily, english comes more natural to me than urdu while reading and writing.

-Wrote a 2 page outline (25-30 bullets)
-14 page essay with proper introduction and ending (around 2000-2200 words)

still I get 4/100.

Got 20/100 in Current affairs and 30/100 in Pak Affairs. 10 mcq were correct in both papers, while I am scoring 66 in International Relations, they fail me in CA and PA.

What I have analysed from this result is that in compulsory subjects, the examiners have not read my answers at all, while I score reasonably well in optionals, all my compulsories got literally no marks.

COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION (CSS) - 2013



Candidate Name : FAHAD AHMED SUBEDAR
Roll No: 05110


COMPULSORY SUBJECTS
Subject
Total Marks
Passing Marks
Marks Obtained
Total Marks
Accepted
Essay 100 40 4 4 00
English 100 40 41 41 41
General Knowledge 300 120
GK1 (Everyday Science) 100 40
GK2 (Current Affairs) 100 21
GK3 (Pakistan Affairs) 100 30 91 00
Islamiat 100 40 37 37 00

OPTIONAL SUBJECTS
Subject
Total Marks
Passing Marks
Marks Obtained
Total Marks
Accepted
Accountancy and Auditing 200 66
Paper A 41
Paper B 58 99 99
Forestry 100 33 57 57 57
Sociology 100 33 41 41 41
Statistics 100 33 65 65 65
International Relations 100 33 66 66 66
Total Marks
FAILED IN COMPULSORY 369
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