i hav followed ur link.. they hav argued and hav given a lot of opinions but they havent been able to conclude.. the mystery is left unsolved..

Keats' concept of beauty

http://www.cssforum.com.pk/css-optio...rsus-life.html

http://www.cssforum.com.pk/css-optio...ts-poetry.html

This may clear your concept regarding keats idea of beauty.

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Accept this world means accept the reality.

Iam also striving to tell you that real beauty is in this world or reality not in imagination.
Suppose there are two worlds one is full of love, art and beauty which is depicted on Urn, which survived through many centuries and thus represents the immortality of art.While second world is full of pain, suffering and poignancy and here love or happiness is transciet.
Now temporary Keats finds refuge in the world of immortal art and love (as presented by Urn). But soon (in forth stanza) he realises that little town depicted on the urn will always remain empty and silent like other things on Urn. So after escaping into the world of immortality he finds himself compelled to return to the real world and concludes that all pains of real world are more satifying than the cold remote perfection of the marbal Urn.
I hope now there is no more confusion?

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Asma Morio

my dear, as far as I think, in this famous line Keats is comparing the beauty of the urn and the truth in their permanency. Truth is something permanent and eternal, unchangeable and here the beauty of urn, says Keats is also eternal, unchangeable and will remain there upto ages.. the generations would go dead and the world would go on changing but this fosterchild of time and unravished bride of quietness, this beautiful Grechain urn will remain with all its beauty and charm.. and will say to every person that will visit, see and ponder over the carvings or paintings on the urn that my beauty is eternal and so is the truth, thus beauty is truth and truth beauty.. being isolated from the urn, the meaning of this famous line remains zero as beauty in general is something transient, not eternal.. and something is transient that is the reason it appears beautiful to us.. so i think that the words beauty and truth and one being the same as the other can only be proved by confining our explanation to the Ode only.. it does not mean acceptance of this world or the world.. wat do u think??

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dear, in this message of urs, u hav said clearly that the meaning of truth is not this world but acceptance of this world.. but now u r saying that accepting this world is accepting truth which suggests that world=truth.. u hav again created confusion hahaha

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"So my birth was the first of all my misfortunes". (Jean Jacques Rosseou)

I think it clearly means truth is the best choose to choice.

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Al Rahmaan

confusion ustad confuuusion

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"So my birth was the first of all my misfortunes". (Jean Jacques Rosseou)

Truth and beauty are interrelated and truth is always a best choice to choose.

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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Al Rahmaan

Honestly speaking dear I cannot understand what you want to tell me.

O mary bhai! I am using such words (World= acceptance of this world=Reality=Truth to tell you the exact meaning of these line.
However meaning of all these lines is "don't escape from reality. Sachai ko mano and sachai ye ha k urn is immortal and lifeless. So according to the Keats though is full of beauty but real beauty lies in acceptance of this world (reality) na k es dunia k sachai sy escape karny mein.
Don't take my word "world" in general sense but in a symbolic sense.

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Asma Morio

willl uuu plzzz elabboraatee??? how beauty and truth are interrelated?

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