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Baloch have arab ancestry they are descendents of Hazrat Ameer Hamza a paternal uncle of islamic prophet Mohammad s,aw. Baloch migrated from Aleppo Syria took part in the battle of karbala siding the sons of hazrat Ali Against yazid as baloch were soldiers of Hazrat Ali

On the other hand Balochs curls are Imitation of Spiritual Hierarchical . Prayers of al-Aqsa Mosque never shaved there poll hair. Balochs also follow the Practice of Hazrat Abraham to judge the Truth and Falsehood by moving the suspicious person on the live coal (Baloch use Specially wood of "Kaheer" (because its coal does not turns into ash within about 24 hours) .


Briefly describing, first of all a channel (about 10 ft (3.0 m) in length, 4 ft (1.2 m) in width and 3 ft (0.91 m) depth) is dug and wood of Kaheer (commonly) is burnt to prepare coal during this time a reciter recites some verses of the Qur'an, after that the suspicious person is asked to walk on the blazing coal in the presence of Above All (Muqadams, white beard men). If he is true then coal never burns his feet, a blameless Baloch has faith in this fact to that day. It is known by "Patt" in Balochi .


.يگ وت کھوشتی مہ ملکا ، اے جھان خان گل ايں

ما مريدوں يا علی ، اے دين ايمان پشتيں

حمزہ اولاد بلوچی ، ہوب درگاہ گر دين

کل بلا بھمپور نياما ، شہر سيستان مريض ا ز حلبا پھاز کھايوں ، گوں يزيداں جھيڑويں

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In history " Koosh and Baloosh " have been described together and the same way, wrote the Arabic writers that they are same . Firdausi also narrates their same culture, and same Commander in the following epics of Shahnama:

سپاہی زگردان کوچ و بلوچ

سگاليدہ جنگيدہ مانند غوچ

کے در جہان ديد ايشان نہ ديد

نہ آہن يک انگشت نامد پديد

سپہدار شان اشکش تيز ہش

کہ باراۓ دل بود دبا مغز ہوش

در فش بياوردہ پيکر پلنگ

ہمی از در فشش بيا رند چنگ

( By: Firdausi )

It is obvious from above epics that Baluch and Kooch(Kurds), used to fight in the same way, under same commander and under the same Flag, showing a Leopard image (Commonly sign of avenge), according to Baluchi proverb " if stone can liquefy then a Baluch is not Avenger " because avenging is their instinct.

According to Arabic writers:

Kuchs and Baluchs are same by ancestry.
They speak their Languages, different from Persian.
During the age of Arabic Conquerors, Kuchs and Baluchs lived together and belonged to same Genealogy however, they spoke different languages .

Similarly Historians claim, Language can not be the identifier of Genealogy.

In about 680, they migrated towards Kerman in Iran and stayed there for a while with peace

list of Baloch Tribes

The Baloch (Balochi: بلوچ) are a tribal society settled in Balochistan in southwestern Asia. The Baluchistan region is divided among Iran, Afghanistan,and Pakistan. Many Balochs reside in the Arab States like Oman, UAE, and Saudi Arabia.

The following is a partial list of major Baloch tribes.[1]

A

Almani
Ameeri
Amirari
Askani

B

Badini (Rakhshani)
Bagayzani
Bahadur zai Zagar Mengal
Bahalkani
Bahawalanzai
Bakhrani
Baloch (Sarband) -Shadadzai, Dagarzai, Zahnoozai and Mrizai
Bajoi
Band Baloch
Bangulzai (Brahui-Speeking)
Barakzai
Baranzai
Barazani
Barija
Barmani
Bughlani
Barr
Bhurgri
Bhutani
Bijarani
Bijjarzahi
Bizenjo
Bugti
Buledi
Bulfati
Buzdar
Bilwani
Bughlani (Leghari)

C

Chakerzehi
Chakrari
Chandio (Hooth)
Chang
Changwani
Chanorwani
Chutani (Khosa)

D

Damanis
Dannarzai
Dagar zai {Yallanzai Rind }
Dareshak
Daarigh
Darzada
Dashti
Dehani
Dehwar (Dehwari speaking)
Dodai tribe
Domki
Drakhshan
Durrazai

E

Esani
Esaani
Essazai
Essazai (Kalmati)

F

Fatahni

G

Gadi
Gabol
Gadani
Gadhi
Gajani
Gamshadzehi
Gashkori
Ghallu-Seraiki-speaking
Ghanbarzehi
Ghazini
Ghazakandi
Gichki
Gorgaij
Goarazai
Gola
Gopang
Gorgage
Gorshani
Gulfad
Gudaro -Brahui-speaking
Gurgunari - Brahui-speaking
Gurmani
Gyandar
Gudara
Guldani
Gorhani

H

Hasni
Halazai
Harooni
Heesbani
Hooth - main tribe

I

Ismailzahi

J

Jadgal (Jat Tribe)
Jagirani
Jakhrani (Jatt Tribe)
Jalbani
Jamaldini
Jamali
Jarwar
Jatoi - Main Tribe
Muslim Jat
Jattak - Brahui-speaking
Jiskani -Main Tribe
Joonglani

K

Kadahe
Kalmati
Kalpar
Kambarzahi
Kanera or Kanera Khel
Karlu
Kashani
Katbal
Kenagzai
Khalol
Kharani
Khetran
Kiazai
Khosa
Khurasani
Khushk
Khuloi
Kiazai
Kizilbash
Korai
Kubda
Kulachi
Kupchanis
Kurd - Brahui-speaking
Kubdani Rakhshani Baloch

L

Lamba
Langove - Barahvi-speaking
Lanjwani
Lashari - main tribe
Lasi((Sirahiki-speaking))
Lalwani
Leghari
Lehri - Brahui-speaking
Lewari - Balochi-speaking
Loharani
Lund
Laskani

M

Malkani-(Laghari Tribe)
Madranshahi
Magsi
Makrani
Malano Jatt Tribe
Malghani
Mallazai
Mamhdani
Mandwani
Mandozai
Marri
Mashori
Mastoi
Masuri
Mazari
Mazarzai
Meerwani - Brahui-speaking
Mengal - Brahui-speaking
Mewtani
Mirani
Mobaraki
Mohammadzahi
Mollazehi
Mondrani
Moosiani Kubdani
Muhammad Hasni -(Mamasani)
Mohammad Hassani - main tribe
Mohammad Shahi-(Mamashai)-Brahui-speaking
Maswani - (Notkani sub-tribe)
Mugheri
Mirjat

N

Nandwani
Narouie
Notkani - (Rind Tribe)
Naukri
Nauri
Nausherwani
Nazirani
Nichari - Brahui-speaking
Nindwani
Nizamani
Nothazai
Nohani

P

Pandrani
Pasoi
Pirkani - Brahui-speaking
Pitafi
Perozani
Perozai
Punjani khosa

Q

Qahtani
Qatna
Qaisrani
Qalandrani - Brahui-speaking
Qambrani - Brahui-speaking
Qandrani
Qusmani Balouch

R

Rahija
Rahimi
Rahmanzai
Rais
Rakshani Badini,Jamaldini
Rigi
Ranjhani
Rind - main tribe
Rodeni - Brahui-speaking
Rodnani

S

Sahibzada - Arabic, Balochi-speaking
Sadozai
Sahlani
Sajidi
Sarki
Saeedani
Salarzai [Salary] Balochi, Farci, Pushto-speaking
Sakhani
Sanjrani
Saravani
Sardaizai
Sargani
Sarparah
Sasoli Brahui-speaking
Sethwi
Seyahsawar
Shadani
Shahalzai
Shahani
Shahdadzai
Shahozai
Shahwani
Shahizai
Shaliani
Shambhani
Shar
Sherkhlani
Shekhanzai - (Baloch tribe) Balochi-speaking
Sherzai
Shirani
Sobdarani
Sohrani
Soomrani
Sumalani - Brahui-speaking
Sumrah
Sundrani
Suhrabzai

T

Tangwani
Taherzai
Talpur Sindhi-speaking
Tanwri
Tauqi
Talani
Thingani Dera Ghazi Khan

U

Umrani

W

Wadela
Waddani khosa kocha waddani tribe

Y

Yallanzai
Yarahmadzahi

Z

Zamurani
Zadjali
Zagar Mengal
Zarakzahi - Brahui-speaking
Zarrani
Zehri - Brahui-speaking
Zehri Moosiani Kubdani
Zangaza
zardari /sindhi baloch
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Baloch have arab ancestry they are descendents of Hazrat Ameer Hamza a paternal uncle of islamic prophet Mohammad s,aw. Baloch migrated from Aleppo Syria took part in the battle of karbala siding the sons of hazrat Ali Against yazid as baloch were soldiers of Hazrat Ali

On the other hand Balochs curls are Imitation of Spiritual Hierarchical . Prayers of al-Aqsa Mosque never shaved there poll hair. Balochs also follow the Practice of Hazrat Abraham to judge the Truth and Falsehood by moving the suspicious person on the live coal (Baloch use Specially wood of "Kaheer" (because its coal does not turns into ash within about 24 hours) .


Briefly describing, first of all a channel (about 10 ft (3.0 m) in length, 4 ft (1.2 m) in width and 3 ft (0.91 m) depth) is dug and wood of Kaheer (commonly) is burnt to prepare coal during this time a reciter recites some verses of the Qur'an, after that the suspicious person is asked to walk on the blazing coal in the presence of Above All (Muqadams, white beard men). If he is true then coal never burns his feet, a blameless Baloch has faith in this fact to that day. It is known by "Patt" in Balochi .


.يگ وت کھوشتی مہ ملکا ، اے جھان خان گل ايں

ما مريدوں يا علی ، اے دين ايمان پشتيں

حمزہ اولاد بلوچی ، ہوب درگاہ گر دين

کل بلا بھمپور نياما ، شہر سيستان مريض ا ز حلبا پھاز کھايوں ، گوں يزيداں جھيڑويں

( Domki Epics )

In history " Koosh and Baloosh " have been described together and the same way, wrote the Arabic writers that they are same . Firdausi also narrates their same culture, and same Commander in the following epics of Shahnama:

سپاہی زگردان کوچ و بلوچ

سگاليدہ جنگيدہ مانند غوچ

کے در جہان ديد ايشان نہ ديد

نہ آہن يک انگشت نامد پديد

سپہدار شان اشکش تيز ہش

کہ باراۓ دل بود دبا مغز ہوش

در فش بياوردہ پيکر پلنگ

ہمی از در فشش بيا رند چنگ

( By: Firdausi )

It is obvious from above epics that Baluch and Kooch(Kurds), used to fight in the same way, under same commander and under the same Flag, showing a Leopard image (Commonly sign of avenge), according to Baluchi proverb " if stone can liquefy then a Baluch is not Avenger " because avenging is their instinct.

According to Arabic writers:

Kuchs and Baluchs are same by ancestry.
They speak their Languages, different from Persian.
During the age of Arabic Conquerors, Kuchs and Baluchs lived together and belonged to same Genealogy however, they spoke different languages .

Similarly Historians claim, Language can not be the identifier of Genealogy.

In about 680, they migrated towards Kerman in Iran and stayed there for a while with peace

list of Baloch Tribes

The Baloch (Balochi: بلوچ) are a tribal society settled in Balochistan in southwestern Asia. The Baluchistan region is divided among Iran, Afghanistan,and Pakistan. Many Balochs reside in the Arab States like Oman, UAE, and Saudi Arabia.

The following is a partial list of major Baloch tribes.[1]

A

Almani
Ameeri
Amirari
Askani

B

Badini (Rakhshani)
Bagayzani
Bahadur zai Zagar Mengal
Bahalkani
Bahawalanzai
Bakhrani
Baloch (Sarband) -Shadadzai, Dagarzai, Zahnoozai and Mrizai
Bajoi
Band Baloch
Bangulzai (Brahui-Speeking)
Barakzai
Baranzai
Barazani
Barija
Barmani
Bughlani
Barr
Bhurgri
Bhutani
Bijarani
Bijjarzahi
Bizenjo
Bugti
Buledi
Bulfati
Buzdar
Bilwani
Bughlani (Leghari)

C

Chakerzehi
Chakrari
Chandio (Hooth)
Chang
Changwani
Chanorwani
Chutani (Khosa)

D

Damanis
Dannarzai
Dagar zai {Yallanzai Rind }
Dareshak
Daarigh
Darzada
Dashti
Dehani
Dehwar (Dehwari speaking)
Dodai tribe
Domki
Drakhshan
Durrazai

E

Esani
Esaani
Essazai
Essazai (Kalmati)

F

Fatahni

G

Gadi
Gabol
Gadani
Gadhi
Gajani
Gamshadzehi
Gashkori
Ghallu-Seraiki-speaking
Ghanbarzehi
Ghazini
Ghazakandi
Gichki
Gorgaij
Goarazai
Gola
Gopang
Gorgage
Gorshani
Gulfad
Gudaro -Brahui-speaking
Gurgunari - Brahui-speaking
Gurmani
Gyandar
Gudara
Guldani
Gorhani

H

Hasni
Halazai
Harooni
Heesbani
Hooth - main tribe

I

Ismailzahi

J

Jadgal (Jat Tribe)
Jagirani
Jakhrani (Jatt Tribe)
Jalbani
Jamaldini
Jamali
Jarwar
Jatoi - Main Tribe
Muslim Jat
Jattak - Brahui-speaking
Jiskani -Main Tribe
Joonglani

K

Kadahe
Kalmati
Kalpar
Kambarzahi
Kanera or Kanera Khel
Karlu
Kashani
Katbal
Kenagzai
Khalol
Kharani
Khetran
Kiazai
Khosa
Khurasani
Khushk
Khuloi
Kiazai
Kizilbash
Korai
Kubda
Kulachi
Kupchanis
Kurd - Brahui-speaking
Kubdani Rakhshani Baloch

L

Lamba
Langove - Barahvi-speaking
Lanjwani
Lashari - main tribe
Lasi((Sirahiki-speaking))
Lalwani
Leghari
Lehri - Brahui-speaking
Lewari - Balochi-speaking
Loharani
Lund
Laskani

M

Malkani-(Laghari Tribe)
Madranshahi
Magsi
Makrani
Malano Jatt Tribe
Malghani
Mallazai
Mamhdani
Mandwani
Mandozai
Marri
Mashori
Mastoi
Masuri
Mazari
Mazarzai
Meerwani - Brahui-speaking
Mengal - Brahui-speaking
Mewtani
Mirani
Mobaraki
Mohammadzahi
Mollazehi
Mondrani
Moosiani Kubdani
Muhammad Hasni -(Mamasani)
Mohammad Hassani - main tribe
Mohammad Shahi-(Mamashai)-Brahui-speaking
Maswani - (Notkani sub-tribe)
Mugheri
Mirjat

N

Nandwani
Narouie
Notkani - (Rind Tribe)
Naukri
Nauri
Nausherwani
Nazirani
Nichari - Brahui-speaking
Nindwani
Nizamani
Nothazai
Nohani

P

Pandrani
Pasoi
Pirkani - Brahui-speaking
Pitafi
Perozani
Perozai
Punjani khosa

Q

Qahtani
Qatna
Qaisrani
Qalandrani - Brahui-speaking
Qambrani - Brahui-speaking
Qandrani
Qusmani Balouch

R

Rahija
Rahimi
Rahmanzai
Rais
Rakshani Badini,Jamaldini
Rigi
Ranjhani
Rind - main tribe
Rodeni - Brahui-speaking
Rodnani

S

Sahibzada - Arabic, Balochi-speaking
Sadozai
Sahlani
Sajidi
Sarki
Saeedani
Salarzai [Salary] Balochi, Farci, Pushto-speaking
Sakhani
Sanjrani
Saravani
Sardaizai
Sargani
Sarparah
Sasoli Brahui-speaking
Sethwi
Seyahsawar
Shadani
Shahalzai
Shahani
Shahdadzai
Shahozai
Shahwani
Shahizai
Shaliani
Shambhani
Shar
Sherkhlani
Shekhanzai - (Baloch tribe) Balochi-speaking
Sherzai
Shirani
Sobdarani
Sohrani
Soomrani
Sumalani - Brahui-speaking
Sumrah
Sundrani
Suhrabzai

T

Tangwani
Taherzai
Talpur Sindhi-speaking
Tanwri
Tauqi
Talani
Thingani Dera Ghazi Khan

U

Umrani

W

Wadela
Waddani khosa kocha waddani tribe

Y

Yallanzai
Yarahmadzahi

Z

Zamurani
Zadjali
Zagar Mengal
Zarakzahi - Brahui-speaking
Zarrani
Zehri - Brahui-speaking
Zehri Moosiani Kubdani
Zangaza
zardari /sindhi baloch
Dear, i like your devotion towards holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) and His famiy, but historical facts are different:

1:- Balochs' history is as old as know history of ancient Persia. Balochs are also mentioned as oppressed nation at Alborz Mountains in Northern Iran and South of Caspean Sea. This Rich land belonged to Balochs until the Brutal Reign of Nausherwan of Persia, Around 560 AD (10 years before birth of Hazrat Amir Hamza) he lead a campaign of Genocide of every Single Baloch cause Baloch Revolted against Him Resulting in Poppulation shift from Alborz to South Eastern lands of Kerman.

2:- As for as Balochs are claimed as Kurds, i don't want to go in detail at this point but your that claim also prove my point. Because origin of Kurds belong to the Iranian section of the broad family of Indo-European peoples, but details of their exact origins are hard to confirm. Links can be found to the Medes, a tribe from the sixth century BCE who conquered Assyria and founded an empire that included what is now Iran and central Anatolia. The Medes political influence came to an end with the arrival of Alexander the Great in the region (Centuries before even birth of Hazrat Amir Hamza).
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We the Jarwar Ghizni Marri Baloch are entitled by Imam Sajjad a.s as Jar means water War means distributors or fighters for on the side of Imam Hussain a.s after the battle of Karbala, Yes this is true that our Great Grand Parents has been the Asabis and Participated into the battle of Karbala & 9 of them were safe guard of Imam Ali a.s Imam Hassan a.s & they bringing son of Imam Hassan a.s after his death by poisoned by his ex-wife in Medina who force him to make an agreement with Mu‘awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan since he was in peace at safaid mahal of madain or madair in presence of Abu Ishaque & our great grand parents The son of Hazrat Imam Hassan a.s is now called Abdullah Shah Ghazi Clifton Karachi, & rest of other family has been given asylum by King of Alor or Arore Raja Dahar & King of Multan, they also offered Imam Hussain a.s to come to Sindh & live in peace but he replied Islam need my sucrifies & i am sending you my supporters and family members for asylum because all Arab word is our enemies they killed my father my brother my cousin Muslim ibne Aqeel etc etc so Raja Dahar given asylum through our Great Grand Parents at his Sisters House somewhere in Sindh & other family members of Ahl-e-Bait are at house of daughter of the King of Multan that was the real reason why Muhammad Bin Qasim Attached Alor or Aroe now modern City Rohi a old Capital City or Raja Chach & Raja Dahar, Muhammad Bin Qasim Claimed that Raja Dahar has Captured Muslim Women & He attacked Sindh to recover these women but these Women were given Asylum with matual cooperation of Imam Hussain a.s including Alafis & others supporters of Imam Hussain a.s to Sindh & Multan. That is the Reason that All three regions are full of Shism still Multan, Sukkur/Rohri & Hyderabad District Sukkur & Khairpur has a Majority of Shia Population in Census the reason the Emirs of Mir Talpurs Became Shia Muslims with effection of centuries workships of shia muslims in region, of Hyderabad, Khairpur

I belives agreed in that point you raised that the Baloch peoples are son of Hazrat Amir Hamza but not Son's Son but Daughter's Son Yes one of our Great Grand Parent who were with Hazrat Ali was married to the Daughter of Hazrat Amir Hamza he was also a brave & sincere solidier as Hazrat Amir Hamza & Imam Ali a.s at the time of battle history only narratted peoples who are Arab & some of Ajam persian iranians only not as much as Turkish & Kurdish etc they only mentioned names of Arabs & few persians only & in Kufa & Madain thousands of tribes settled during the reign of Imam Ali a.s Imam Hassan a.s

Our parents were ordered to hide the dead body of Imam Ali a.s because all arab world were against him and they want to burn the dead body of Imam Ali a.s so he wished his dead body must be hide by unknow person who is non-arab & belongs to area which is miles away from arabs he said my grave must be unkonw to the nation until further orders from my family so sixth Imam, Imam Jaffar - e - Sadiq ordered our Great Grand Paren Al-Jammal Jarwar Ghizni Marri Baloch to construct a shrine on the burriel place of Imam Ali a.s in Near murder place somewhere in Najaf now it is called Masjid - e - Ali Najaf Iraq, where Hazrat Adam & Hazrat Noah are already burried

We the Jarwar Marri Baloch are the first tribe who embraced Islam very first into the baloch nation & Channa is the first tribe who embraced Islam first in Sindhi Nation, Channa became muslims on sword of Muhammad Bin Qasim after the attack to Capital of Raja Dahar in Arore & the City Jarwar now currently a town committe in District Ghotki a living place of our Great Grand Parents at the reign of Raja Dahar was destroyed thousands of Baloch Muslim Women were captured including Sindhi Hindu Women were sold out in open Arab markets & made a revenge so called Captured women who were here on asylum with the permission of Imam Hussain a.s including Alafis and other tribes

Yes this is true that our Great Grand Nani the Daughter of Hazrat Amir Hamza were with Syeda trip to Kufa Towards Medina she used to go to Karbala a place of Shahdaat-e-Imam Hussain a.s & our Great Grand Nani asked her why you always come here in that desert area and cry so far she replied this is the place where whole my family will be murdered by to protect & strengthening the Islam then our Great Grand Nani asked her if all will be beheaded then who will pray for us and cry on that sad demise Bibi Pak replied there will be a Great Nation from your children and will cry for my children and will spread this tragidy to the world
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