Saturday, April 27, 2024
06:35 PM (GMT +5)

Go Back   CSS Forums > General > Discussion

Discussion Discuss current affairs and issues helpful in CSS only.

Reply Share Thread: Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook     Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter     Submit Thread to Google+ Google+    
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
Mehria's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Lahore
Posts: 141
Thanks: 619
Thanked 77 Times in 59 Posts
Mehria is on a distinguished road
Default MQM was funded by India

If MQM was funded and trained by India since two decades and we are informed by BBC.My question is very simple that where were our national investigation agencies and forces? (Irony of Nation)


@marwatone Sorry
hope this time it will be OK.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Mehria For This Useful Post:
marwatone (Saturday, June 27, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #2  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 10
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Wannabee is on a distinguished road
Default

I think we should wait for the claim to be proved in a court of law first, and then we can raise all the fingers in many directions. That said, it is now the duty of the government to probe the allegations both in national and international courts of justice. And like always if the government rests to mere rhetoric, then the thing is very obvious - for MQM of its involvement and for PML'N of its bigotry and dirty alliance.
And to add here such political crises is part of national security challenges that Pakistan faces today.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Wannabee For This Useful Post:
sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #3  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
ToxicAntidote's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Islamabad
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
ToxicAntidote is on a distinguished road
Default

It has not been proven yet, government of Pakistan has asked bbc to share the evidence. While mqm has denied the charge and labeled the whole thing as media trial. Let's hope it's not true otherwise it's going to be a cause of shame for our country and especially for our intelligence agencies.

Just for argument's sake if this is true then the government should expose the whole party and leave no stone unturned to bring these culprits to justice. It's called treason and you get death penalty for that.

Sent from my SM-G530H using Tapatalk
__________________
A diamond with a flaw is worth more than a pebble without imperfections. ~Chinese Proverb

Last edited by marwatone; Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 01:54 PM. Reason: Posts merged.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ToxicAntidote For This Useful Post:
Mehria (Thursday, July 02, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #4  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: wan wan se7en
Posts: 136
Thanks: 91
Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts
ARISTOCRAT is on a distinguished road
Default

As far as our intelligence agencies are concerned , in my opinion , they probed the matter first and so the raid at nine zero was occurred . There are grey areas , lacunas every where so in our intelligence agencies. But we must keep in mind , these are mere allegations. MQM is innocent until proven guilty.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ARISTOCRAT For This Useful Post:
Mehria (Thursday, July 02, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #5  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
Sabir Basheer's Avatar
Senior Member
Defence Award: Awarded to serving ISI, FIA Officers - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pakistan
Posts: 698
Thanks: 363
Thanked 548 Times in 293 Posts
Sabir Basheer is a jewel in the roughSabir Basheer is a jewel in the roughSabir Basheer is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehria View Post
If MQM was funded and trained by India since two decades and we are informed by BBC.My question is very simple that where were our national investigation agencies and forces? (Irony of Nation)


@marwatone Sorry
hope this time it will be OK.
Our agencies definitely knew all these prior to the disclosure by BBC reporter but our governments consistently lack conviction to tack stern actions. It is due to political expediency. Agencies covertly do “justice" with the culprit traitors and none takes responsibility. As such parties have mandate of the public, so ruling parties think before initiating direct action. Nevertheless, this time the conviction of military leadership is heading to phase out these elements. Slow and steady it has to be as these elements hold sway in the metropolis and none wants sudden violence looming large.

Regards!
__________________
If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.(Che Guevara)
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Sabir Basheer For This Useful Post:
ARISTOCRAT (Saturday, June 27, 2015), Mehria (Saturday, June 27, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #6  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
Stunner's Avatar
PHILOSOPHER
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Lahore ..
Posts: 659
Thanks: 847
Thanked 800 Times in 373 Posts
Stunner is just really niceStunner is just really niceStunner is just really niceStunner is just really niceStunner is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mehria View Post
If MQM was funded and trained by India since two decades and we are informed by BBC.My question is very simple that where were our national investigation agencies and forces? (Irony of Nation)


@marwatone Sorry
hope this time it will be OK.
MQM being funded by India won't serve as a surprise to many .. Especially to agencies and forces .. It was only a matter of time it all being unfolded .. Later at one point people will also be surprised to know that most top bureaucrats and politicians were also on Indian payroll ..

Regarding the question 'where were our agencies and forces' .. Well, they knew it long before you and I did .. But MQM is a political reality .. You need strong evidence to oust a political party .. It cannot be dismantled on mere opposition by another political party .. (Khan Sahab tried to do that single handed after getting to know Altaf's motives during a visit to India about more than a decade ago) ..

Let's hope we gather enough material to have this party banned for ever .. But to me, the real victory for Pakistan will come when we catch the individual Mir Jaffars in bureaucracy, parliament, senate and media .. I have no doubts what so ever that we have a herd of black sheep in patriotic camouflage there ..

Regards ..
__________________
You Have To Keep Breaking Your Heart Until It Opens .. !! Rumi ..
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Stunner For This Useful Post:
Mehria (Saturday, June 27, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015), waqas izhar (Sunday, June 28, 2015)
  #7  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: wan wan se7en
Posts: 136
Thanks: 91
Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts
ARISTOCRAT is on a distinguished road
Default

Well, as far as funding is concerned, IJI was funded by pak army and isi, a streamline religious group is still funded by Saudi Arab . And many other religious seminaries are being funded by out " Brother Islamic Countries " . All have their concerns, but in case of MQM , funding is linked by India . So until and unless they are proven guilty , must be considered innocent. The good thing is that , Now their opponent is BBC . And they should have file a case of defamation in UK . Let see. Things going to be changed , how and when . ....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ARISTOCRAT For This Useful Post:
Mehria (Saturday, June 27, 2015)
  #8  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
sincere khan's Avatar
Senior Member
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: In the City Of Flowers
Posts: 1,211
Thanks: 255
Thanked 510 Times in 399 Posts
sincere khan will become famous soon enough
Default

if india is giving fund to mqm then taliban will funded to jumaati islami
__________________
Success is simple. Do what's right, the right way, at the right time.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to sincere khan For This Useful Post:
Mehria (Saturday, June 27, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #9  
Old Saturday, June 27, 2015
zarraar's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Punjanb
Posts: 217
Thanks: 176
Thanked 173 Times in 116 Posts
zarraar will become famous soon enough
Default

All the 200 police officers who took part in operation against mqm were killed. And who killed baber mamtaz the journalist of geo news? Who is behind the killing of imran foroque ? Why all tv channels are bound for the live coverage of altaf bhai?It is an open secret. . . .chole k pechy kia ha
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to zarraar For This Useful Post:
Mehria (Sunday, June 28, 2015), sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
  #10  
Old Sunday, June 28, 2015
46th CTP (IG)
CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2017 - Merit 218
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Lahore
Posts: 85
Thanks: 14
Thanked 39 Times in 26 Posts
sheikh87 is on a distinguished road
Default

Whatever you all may say, the facts remain that MQM has been the most influential, persuasive and significant party in Karachi who has an enormous vote bank, and has been under a constant attack by critics and parties of other provinces and by the establishment division. All the previous allegations on MQM from Jinnah poor plan to Nato containers theft have been proved untrue. My assertions are far from declaring MQM as a clean party, rather, I am arguing over the constant slandering of MQM without any substantial evidence. When the Peshawar attacks took place and the imam masjid was found guilty, it was later revealed that he and his family casted their vote to PTI but it did not provoke any outcry against Tehreek-e-insaaf, in-fact, views emerged that every individual is a voter of a particular party and his actions cannot be blamed to a party, but whenever the party involved is MQM, this political philosophy changes and a small theft by any general voter is regarded as a burglary by MQMs political wing.
The recent BBC report is nothing but a black and white copy of the press-conference done by the SSP Anwar a month ago or so; that is the one and the only source of BBC’s allegation. Wisely speaking, if the report proves to be untrue, BBC cannot be charged for damages as their story is backed by the SSP Anwar’s press conference.
__________________
Anything that happens once will never happen again, but anything that happens twice will surely happen again and again
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to sheikh87 For This Useful Post:
sqrajper (Sunday, December 27, 2015)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pak affairs notes uzma khan youzaf zai Pakistan Affairs 11 Sunday, October 13, 2019 02:31 PM
Americas leaning heavivly towards India Imtiaz Gondal Current Affairs 4 Monday, August 05, 2019 07:33 PM
indo-pak relations atifch Current Affairs 0 Monday, December 11, 2006 09:01 PM


CSS Forum on Facebook Follow CSS Forum on Twitter

Disclaimer: All messages made available as part of this discussion group (including any bulletin boards and chat rooms) and any opinions, advice, statements or other information contained in any messages posted or transmitted by any third party are the responsibility of the author of that message and not of CSSForum.com.pk (unless CSSForum.com.pk is specifically identified as the author of the message). The fact that a particular message is posted on or transmitted using this web site does not mean that CSSForum has endorsed that message in any way or verified the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message. We encourage visitors to the forum to report any objectionable message in site feedback. This forum is not monitored 24/7.

Sponsors: ArgusVision   vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.